What Happens With That Sirius Lifetime Subscription?
With the advent of Satellite Radio 2.0, I am frequently asked what this means for those that have a lifetime subscription from Sirius. Lifetime subscriptions were once made available to Sirius subscribers, and depending on how long your receiver lasts, might have been a good deal. The most frequent misconception with the Sirius XM lifetime subscription is the definition of the word “lifetime”.
The first thing readers need to understand is that with Sirius XM and nearly anytime you hear the term lifetime, it does not really mean lifetime. Lottery winners often learn that lifetime is defined as about 20 years. In our legal system “life in prison” does not always mean someone will be behind bars until they die.
Smart companies often clearly define what “lifetime” means. There are occasions where some companies offer “lifetime” subscriptions without very much of a definition. Consumers run the risk of thinking they have a certain level of service without much of any recourse if the party selling a “lifetime” subscription decides to limit their level of service, walk away from the business, or simply coast along giving the subscriber less and less over time. An undefined lifetime subscription can cause mass confusion. Services may get added that suddenly are not included in the lifetime subscription. The consumer is left wondering exactly what they bought.
With Sirius XM the lifetime subscription is clearly defined, but even with that many people are still confused over what they do and don’t get for service. Below are some points that may help people understand what their lifetime subscription will be going forward:
- The first thing to understand with a Sirius Lifetime subscription is that it is for the lifetime of the receiver, not the person. If your receiver lasts you 3.5 years, you are slightly ahead of the game. If not, you paid more than you perhaps should have. Lifetime subscribers can transfer their subscription to a new radio 3 times for a transfer fee of $75 each time. This only applies to a plug and play radio, and not a car radio. The problem is that Sirius XM is moving things over to the XM platform and Sirius branded radios such as the new Starmate 8 do not feature content like Satellite Radio 2.0. This could mean that you will be paying more to get certain content, like Howard Stern if you switch. Lifetime subscriptions come with Internet Radio included. The good news is that you will receive all of the new Internet Radio channels inclusive of the recent channels added via the Satellite Radio 2.0 technology. The bad news is that if you are trying to listen in your car you can not receive Satellite Radio 2.0 over the satellite feed. People who use the Sirius XM app to get their content are typically using the Internet feed (unless you have a SkyDock). The Lifetime subscription gives you versatility, but you are reliant on a data feed.
- Sirius XM only owes you certain content with a lifetime subscription. The user agreement does not guarantee you that you will receive premium content. For example Sirius Premier costs about $4 per month and allows users to access some content available on the XM platform. Lifetime subscribers do not get this content as part of their lifetime subscription. Let’s assume for a moment that Sirius XM lands a deal with Rush Limbaugh. The company can make that a premium channel, or put it on the XM platform, and Sirius subscribers may not receive the channel. Another example is that during the merger process Sirius lost the NBA and it went top XM. The only way a lifetime subscriber now gets the NBA is through paying more money. Sirius XM is not bound to give you all of the specific content that was offered when you signed up. They must only give you similar levels of content. You lost the NBA, but gained some soccer. Sirius XM was well within their rights to make that change, and a Lifetime subscriber must accept it.
- Satellite Radio 2.0 capabilities may never be available to Sirius Lifetime subscribers. The company is under no requirement to make your satellite radio experience the same as consumers with newer and more capable radios. If a new radio offers “On-Demand” features, but is on the XM platform, Sirius Lifetime subscribers will most likely be left out either with all or some of the new capabilities and channels or have to make the switch to the XM platform which will mean some Sirius content will not be available.
The lesson here is that while many received good value for their lifetime subscriptions, they may not get all of the bells and whistles going forward. As frustrating as this may be, it is simply the way it is. Sirius XM is in the business of trying to make money. If they had their druthers they would probably wish that the lifetime subscription no longer existed. One way to pare down the number of these subscriptions is to simply let the “lifetime” receivers die off and have consumers move over to subscription plans that generate revenue on a long term basis.
The bottom line is that consumers need to be a bit cautious anytime they hear the term lifetime. Before buying anything “lifetime” read the terms and understand them. Lifetime typically does not mean until the day you die. Sirius XM may change some of these policies, they have the right to modify them at any time, but I would not hold my breath. There are simply not enough lifetime subscribers to make a material difference in the “complaints” department.
The bottom line is that lifetime subscribers are the reason this company still exists. We gave them a cash infusion when they were going down the toilet and saved the company.
We took a gamble on them, there was a real possibility that they would have gone out of business at anytime.
Their ingratitude is astounding, they should have elevated lifetime subscribers to a special level, with all the extras thrown in for free. Instead, they are biting the hand that fed them, because now they have full bellies and don’t need us anymore. Disgusting.
Sirius sold me a lifetime subscription. Now they are refusing to keep their word. Pathetic
I agree completely.
I have had a lifetime subscription on a small portable radio for 17 years. It still works. I have Sirius in my current car and pay yearly. Lifetime subscriptions are long gone. If yours still works enjoy it. Business is business, there ain’t no free lunch.
It’s not a question of free lunch. It was a deal that Sirius offered to raise capital. $500 for a lifetime subscription.
You are correct. They were really scratchin’ for money when they started. These life time subscriptions kept the doors open until they merged with XM. It was $400.00 and not $500.00 back in 1992. The $400.00 turned out to be a free lunch after 18 years.
Sirius has stepped up each time, of course it always takes diplomacy, and wrangling, but since early 2005 I have it in my car, desktop, and computer. Once I had to spend maybe $75. to get Howard Stern (which was included from the get-go_ but never again was I charged. It seems that Sirius decided to take the high road for the few “lifers” that remain out there who insist on the terms as originally advertised. Caveat: only three car receivers are allowed; desktop changes do not seem to be a problem, yet. Honorable Sirius!
I was given a radio I found on freecycle back I 2009 the woman said it was her husband’s and I guess they got divorced she was giving all the stuff she didn’t want away! When I got home it was working I was waiting until the subscription ran out but it looks like it’s a lifetime activation? Because it’s been 9 years and it still works! If it dies I will probably buy one and activate it ? Maybe not the price they now charge is insane for radio! And the fact they no longer have lifetime subscriptions is a deal breaker for me! If they did have it they would probably charge over $1000.000 it and not let you transfer it to another radio. They have become just another gready company! I’ll stick to Pandora if my Radio does! They have a lot of competition out there sure satellite will work we’re there’s no cell signal and Pandora is impossible to receive on a vehicle but I can deal with that I have a lot of thumb drives with plenty of music on them I can play instead!
Lucky! Whatever you do, don’t call Sirius for support, they will disconnect your radio.
Sirius lifetime subscriber since 2005. After listening to XM internet radio (streaming) on my computer for 15 years Sirius shut me down. They said that streaming was not included in my lifetime subscription. B—S. Does anyone have a copy of the original ad or documentation? [email protected] Thanks
I’ve had the lifetime subscription now for over 10 years. I paid one time transfer fee to transfer it from one device to another. That was $75. When I got my lifetime subscription it was when it first became available. And I think I paid like $450 for it. Since I work in the trucking industry I think I definitely came out ahead.
I listen to XM daily with my “lifetime subscription”. I’m on my second receiver which I use at the house on the weekends but I stream constantly. I purchased my subscription years ago and once it became available to stream the actual device was hardly ever used. It was one of the better purchases I made and have never looked back.
I bought my used car in 2013. It had SiriusXM radio installed and I listened to it everyday. I assumed it was a trial. Here it is, 7 years later and I still have it in my car and it works great. I never paid for it once. The radio ID does not match the VIN. Incidentally my son’s radio ID does not match his VIN either (but he isn’t a subscriber and doesn’t get any channels). I guess I just lucked out.
https://www.lifetimesiriusxmsettlement.com/
Sirius has made a settlement apparently and now a lifetime subscription is truly a “lifetime subscription”. The transfer cost is $35 now.
This is an ancient thread, but today I successfully moved a lifetime subscription from the stock radio in my 2014 Subaru to a new Apple Car-Play enabled radio in the same car. $35 fee, done with no fuss.
The transfer fee is not new. Read the fine print. I knew I could transfer 3 times for $75cad each time. You people act like this is new?
The Settlement now makes it $35 instead of $75, AND indefinite number of transfers to new radios. I believe it cements the internet streaming service also as part of the plan.
This was a good result for all us lifetime subscribers who risked paying the lump sum way back when XM was almost going out of business and needed an emergency cash inflow to stay alive — there was a very real possibility our $500 was going to evaporate with XM at the time, but now we should be appreciated for our loyalty, not viewed as second class subscribers.
This is new. You can now transfer FOREVER for $35/time.
https://www.insideradio.com/free/nearly-1-million-people-will-get-lifetime-subscriptions-in-siriusxm-settlement/article_8535b348-6d0d-11eb-a831-430bacb6c9e6.html
This is new. You can now transfer FOREVER for $35/time.