Brandon’s Call
I revert back to my technical analysis and sector rotation. It is so imperative that anyone invested in any equity understand sector rotation. Imagine if you will a “football field,” with the end-zone on the left being the 0 yard line and the end-zone on the right being the 100 yard line. Stocks that are at the 0 – 20 yard represent sectors that have been oversold. Stocks in the 80 -100 area are stocks that have been overbought.
Over-sold<——————————–>Over-bought
0—10—20—30—40—50—60—70—80—90—100
Downside risk<————————–>Upside Potential
When a sector reaches those high 70,80 and 90% areas, its potential upside is diminished and downside risk becomes much greater. Conversely, when a sector hits those low numbers, it downside risk becomes minimal, and its upside potential becomes greater and more attractive.
Here’s the first problem. Nearly everything is oversold now, with the exception of commodities and perhaps gold stocks, although those seem well on their way to joining other sectors at the left end of the field. The question becomes, which sector or sectors will lead in the next market uptrend?
The government has yet to figure out that the way to spur the economy and end another depression before it begins is through job creation. When Reagan brought us out of a recession, it was through jobs that were created during the cold war in aerospace and defense. Hoover and FDR did it through construction in infrastructure and the Hoover Dam. The Clinton years brought us technology. The next Government funded projects for the sake of the country’s financial health will be in my opinion, alternative energies; yet that scenario will take a year or more to begin to play out. No economy can prosper on Walmart salaries.
So today, as I was driving home and listening to CNBC on Sirius, a commercial caught my attention. It was a commercial for Advil. Immediately I recognized this as a new advertiser. I then recalled a statement by Mel Karmazin recently that mentioned his desire to offer a low priced solution to advertisers. Mel, your a genius! You may not know crap about stocks but did you ever bowl me over today!
“That’s it!, I exclaimed to myself.” MEDIA stocks will lead the next market! Allow me to be the first to call it. As companies look to lower costs they will seek out less expensive advertising solutions. A business without a sign, is a sign of no business! Consider help wanted ads, “for-sale” ads and such. Companies that want to survive will be looking for low cost ad solutions, and companies that provide these solutions to corporate America on a national scale will benefit the most. Media such as Sirius XM will thrive, provided of course, that it can survive the current credit crisis.
Positions: Long SIRI
Bingo! Of course, you are on to something here. And Sirius will be able to do this because they are not solely reliant on advertising but also subscription revenue! It’s almost as if their business model overlaps both the consumer and advertiser and creates a unique synergy between the two. Not to mention, the target audience, those willing to pay for satellite radio, are also potentially the most likely to purchase an advertiser’s product.
I have often thought, regardless, that Sirius has the potential to be a recessionary stock, as it provides a tremendous value to the subscriber and can be substituted for much higher-end, gilded products and services (e.g., the iPod).
It’s all about creating value for everyone; Sirius is definitely doing just that.
brandon,
interesting theory.
hope you are right, as my portfolio cannot take more than a day or two or three more of this.
zach,
good additional points you add to brandon’s theory…
you two might be on to something.
and, yes, those willing to pay for satellite radio, are a target audience for practically everything because they have money to spend, proved by the fact that they pay for satellite radio!
YAY! Brandon’s back…and with an uplifting message of hope no less!
Just in the nick of time too. Things were looking pretty grim around here.
At this point, I don’t even care if what Brandon says is true. It sounds good. Lol…but I just need some good news…to take this stench of despair from the room.
Face it. I can’t sell at this level. And I can’t average down anymore right now. The cold hard truth is that I am STUCK wether I like it or not. I’m long and not so strong. I have no choice.
So with all the NEGATIVES flying about not only in Sirius…but all stocks and how this is the End of Days….I will TAKE ANY AND ALL POSITIVE NEWS.
Even if this article is a pie in the sky wishful ramblings of a fellow deranged Sirius Shareholder….I will take every word as GOSPEL.
Thanks Brandon. You’ve given this shareholder alittle jolt of positive energy to help him get thru another week of bad news.
Thanks Friggin and Getitstraight for your responses.
We ALL need to hang tough…it’s better in numbers that we ALL do. These times will pass even though they do look bleak today. Just a matter of time that the sun shines on sirius stock pps. Please keep the faith for all us fellow investors depend on eachother.
I am also noticing that they are trying to sell their additional services, like navigation to current subscribers, along with cross selling the best of content.
And not only have they shut down the ad campaign against eachother, but the AD campaign period, so they are definately cutting back tremendously on spending.
I think they made a conscious decision to sell within current base instead of spending millions to try and get new subs when people are tightening belts so much.
I hope Mel doesn’t just cut the duplicate positions, but also consolidates some of the executives.
Need to cut drastically with this market.
And we need to hear they found more synergies to put a bottom on this stock !
Mel needs to find another 100 million on top of what he already reported they have (425M)
If they could only reneg some of these overpaid contracts out there.
I wish Stern would sign for a few more years and agree to less in years 4 & 5 until they can weather this storm.
As the saying goes..There is hope for the hopeful and no hope for the hopeless…WE ALL need to stay hopeful that this day to shall pass and oneday we will all look back and be happy we did not give up hope and sell out.
Letter to Mel,
Cut, cut, cut – I guarantee there are alot of people who claim to be working productively, but are browsing the internet.
Get rid of them, consolidate, be more productive.
You don’t need as many Directors as you have named.
Consolidate the Directors of multiple sports channels, directors of the entertainment channels.
Find out what they are doing, if you really need them – sometimes things go smoother with less people, especially in this slow down.
Sorry for those who are losing their jobs, but business is business.
You hear me Mel.
You have more dead weight than you think !
Cut, cut, cut & add another 100 million to that 425M #.
Cramer on the Today show and with a very stern solemn voice said to SELL ALL YOUR STOCKS THIS WEEK IF YOU NEED ANY OF THAT MONEY FOR THE NEXT 5 YEARS.
How many people here think Cramer was giving sound advice out of genuine concern, and how many think something more sinister?
Like Cramer is actually trying to FAN THE FLAMES of PANIC to help his hedge fund buddies who are shorting the market?
Or at least the NON FINANCIAL stocks LIKE SIRIUS that AREN’T ON THE SHORT BAN LIST.
Funny how Goldman Sachs is now considered a regular bank and thus part of the group getting the 700 BILLION bail out money.
If I wasn’t so vested in Sirius, I’d have been against the bail out. But if Sirius goes under or declares bankruptcy, I am going to wish for a Great Depression that wipes out Wall Street completely. It’s the ONLY way we can truly start over.
Because with this Bail out, the ones that caused this hole mess are now asking US, our children and our children’s children to give them our hard earned money.
WHY is it when Wall Street makes profits they are all for privatization, but when they lose money they are ALL for SOCIALISM.
I just find the whole thing absurd.
This is the problem… The cutting makes it worse. With the workforces being slashed and wages going down, no one is spending, corporations make no money and people do not invest. Don’t look for any black Friday this year, specifically with satellite radio. Now that SiriuM are merged I personally think they would gain more subs and decrease churn by lowering prices to $10.99 for one or the other service. Go for the higher end advertisers, they have 20 Million listeners now. The Bob’s condoms and sex cream ads are not appealing, my wife actually cringes at some of the Stern commercials.
Brandon what is your current position didn’t notice long,short,hold, buy! Just curious
frigginreagen – What can I say…. You make some very astute observations, and I agree with you wholeheartedly. Cramer is a shady character; unfortunately an awful lot of people follow his advice like a flock of brainwashed sheep! Our government screws us over day after day, year after year. The Bush adminisration has deftly used fear tactics to control the populace, and people are so used to being ripped off time and time again that they just accept it. They are conditioned to it. It doesn’t phase them anymore! This is supposed to be a government for the people and by the people. The inmates are truely running the asylum, and the price for all this corruption will be paid by those least able to afford it for decades. It is nothing short of CRIMINAL. The merger delay was a microcosm of all that is despicable in this country these days. Our government, and the antics of Wall Street, deserve our utmost contempt. You are damn right it is absurd.
Matta, fwiw, I’m long with a greatly reduced position.
Brandon, thanks for the ideas. Keep them going over to Sirius headquarters.
Friggen: Cramer has to be the slimiest of all slimes. I’m sure he’s lost half his portfolio in his “childhood trust” right now. He’s got an agenda every step of the way. He’s exactly what went wrong with this whole mess, and he does exactly what the ceo of Lehman did yesterday. Takes zero responsibility. Oh and that ceo said he was justified in receiving 360 million in salary while his company went under.
Hey Friggin. Is Mel a slimeball? I keep reading our posts and complaints. No advertising. Not a lot of spin around the best of etc. I just wonder if the number crunch better the way he’s doing this roll out and if he’s just decided to increase revenue through the existing base and simply refuses to spend money. Reading over that September talk you posted. We either have to believe in the guy or we get screwed right? I’m sitting in the boat with you man. Later.
How ironic that the ad is for “Advil” . . . looks like Wienkes hit it outta the park again . . . down to fitty cent . . . i wonder where Wienkes goes from here . . .
Brandon…this maybe sound strange way to get more exposure of siriusxm to the public.
When most computer companies sell computers in ads…at the end of the ad the INTEL INSIDE logo pops up and a short sounding musical note gets attention.
What if sirius creates a musical note and pop up for siriusxm and gets that included in auto ads that include a pop up stating “siriusxm radio” inside. What do you think? If you think that could help in ads…send this idea to MEL. Thanks
I am talking about OEM (GM FORD CHRYSLER etc)TV auto ads that have Siriusxm installed of course.
How can Weinkes go wrong when Goldman:
a.) owns millions of SIRI convertible shares and regular shares.
b.) has computer programming and technology to manipulate prices automatically.
c.) is itself shielded from being shorted by SEC anti-shorting rules even as it shorts SIRI and others into oblivion.
d.) changed its banking status to become the first pig at Paulson’s trough.
e.) has a best friend and recent former CEO posing as US treasury secretary.
f.) employs a puppet named Cramer that obeys every command.
When Cramer screams SELL, its time to buy. The best stock to buy today is GS.
What if sirius creates a musical note and pop up for siriusxm and gets that included in auto ads that include a pop up stating “siriusxm radio” inside. What do you think? If you think that could help in ads…send this idea to MEL. Thanks
This is a great idea. I saw a Hyundai commercial last night that features an XM logo at the end of the ad.
Your idea would kick it up notch and create brand recognition.
Give this man a cigar.
THANKS Horsecork
…lets hope Brandon knows a way to get my suggestion to siri marketing dept and into mel’s head.
I sent my suggestion to Brandon in an email. Let’s hope he can get it to the right heads at siriusxm.
Quick question.
Mel spent 2 million and bought @ about 1.37 to averaged down.
I believe he is now averaged at about 3.00 not sure.
Why do you think he hasn’t averaged down again at the current price ?
Also do you think it is better for the shareholders if he doesn’t ?
i am torn about this. if he does buy more…it’ll show he has confidence in the stock.
But if he doesn’t then his average is close to mine….which would mean he wouldn’t want to go lower than that price if he were to sell Sirius to another company.
LOL. i love the product. just HAte the stock.
Just heard on cnbc…chances are uptick rule will go into effect within next 24 hours…anyone know if this will benefit short selling of siri?
friggin – you make a good point. I feel however that the more insider investment along with institutional investment we have in the stock the better.
It sure would be nice to hear of SiriusXM buying back stock at these depressed prices.
If it weren’t for the outstanding debt, Sirius would be STUPID not to buy back stock at these prices.
I am so tired of being crazy with this stock. THINK OF THE SHEER FUCKING DUMB LUCK AND TIMING of this stock!!!
If the FUCKING MERGER WAS APPROVED LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN by MARCH or APRIL of 2007….we would have had PLENTY OF TIME TO TAKE PROFITS. We would have had a DECENT pop. Interoperable radios would have been out by now.
BUT INSTEAD the MERGER DRAGS ON FOR NEARLY 2 FRIGGIN YEARS….is closed in an UGLY deal….in the middle of an economic CRISIS.
At least some bank shareholders were wiped out overnight. It was painful but QUICK.
SIRIUS shareholders have been screwed with in a long slow torturous masochistic death spiral of manipulation and the most fucked up DUMB LUCK AND TIMING of any stock I have ever seen that has lasted going on 3 years now.
It has dropped faster and faster after the most fucked up anti climactic merger in HISTORY….but now we are paused at 48 fucking sense….being teased once more before the next destructive news.
Sirius shareholders have b.
Just heard on cnbc…chances are uptick rule will go into effect within next 24 hours…anyone know if this will benefit short selling of siri?
Yes, uptick rule helps like a bandaid for a massive head wound, but Goldman Sachs and others can still beat down any stock they desire. If some MM’s are buying and selling to themselves, then the uptick rule doesn’t matter. The uptick rule will help to prevent the little guys from working the system, but at this point that train already left the station.
The big deal is the naked shorting. Which hedge funds have been penalized for it lately? I have not heard of any. Apparently the SEC does not care to assess any penalties for naked short selling. All short selling should be temporarily banned until the market can recover. Say, when the NASDAQ gets to 2500. Or the DOW gets to 14000. It is ridiculous to allow short selling to continue, when they say they want to help the market. Too many imbedded friends (GS) are making a killing doing it so they don’t stop it.
frigginregan – hang in there, buddy. I feel your pain. Everything that could go wrong, has gone wrong! Can the universe really be this cruel? The merger delay is still haunting us, and I think you know who we can thank for that. These people running Sirius/Xm are pulling down huge salaries; where is the creativity and the passion!? I’ll tell you where it is- with the long term subscribers and sharehodlers who diligently hang in there, adament in our resolve not to let this industry go down in flames. If Mel and Co. had one half the passion that you and I and millions of other devoted listeners have, this dire situation wouldn’t be quite so miserable.
My question is……..Is it better for a ceo to come out with positive spin for the company in bad times, like say Lehman, Wamu AIG etc.? Or is it better that they are silent and just keep going about their business demonstrating company confidence?
So if funds continue to receive redemption requests from it’s owners. We head to what 7k on the dow? And 1,200 Nasdaq? Strange how Bernanke now says more pain coming.
Brandon, Tyler. I’ve read Sirius book value is somewhere in the .40’s. Anyone have an accurate number? TIA.
Thanks Horsecork for your answer.
QUESTION…
what will it take to get all short selling and naked short selling to be stopped?
Short selling will never stop. It is too crucial to the function of the markets. In normal market environments it actually can help. It adds to the liquidity of a market which helps a stock find it’s true value.
scrf – SiriusXM book value is actually negative according to my data. If we were to liquidate all company assets we wouldn’t be able to completely pay off all company debt even with the current cash on hand.
I just find it hard to believe that this stock could go any lower, yet it keeps finding a way.
One more horrific washout day on the market, it could go another 10 cents down, right ?
Announce financing and over $1.00, I think ?
Sickning.
On my margin account,I had gotten out at .93 after buying at 1.00, then got back in at .65, out at .67, then back in at .60 and battered down to .47, so now out again.
On my IRA $, I got out at .85 and back in at .49, so almost doubled my shares on this move, but is it a good one ?
Not sure if I want it to go up or down, but have much less in IRA, so I took a chance here, but gunshy to los anymore on my margin account even though I want to ride it back up to 2 bucks or more one day.
Maybe I’ll wait for .39 cents or maybe I should just buy MSFT or GE, but I’m even afraid they could take another 10 -20 % beatings if earnings are bad.
Nobody wants to know the history of where I started with Sirius, how I took it and to be here in this place now is so disgusting and depressing and embarrassing.
I’m in the same boat as Friggin.
I let my girlfriend of 8 years move out because I’ve lost so much $ and depressed that it became too much pressure having her there wanting to go do things and spend $.
This stock has ruined my life, but I can’t let go.
In Mel I trust, I have been in this stck for 3 years. In and out all the way up and down, I now carry 10,000 shares at an avg of $1.86 per share. I have to wait for Mel to make his move. What everyone forgets is Mel wants to stick it very hard to the shorts and he will. Mel is a very smart man. He knew what he was up aginst when he started this merger and he will get everyone who stayed in to the promise land, at least that is the way I feel….
Just upgraded to the Best of… package!
I figured, hey, I’ve already lost $30K in Sirius, might as well kick in another $4/month. I don’t even care about the freakin’ channels I got…just thought it might help the company. I think I’m losing my mind.
We are all down a shit load guys. I have the same emotional issues as most here. I just wish I had more cash to buy some of the beatin up stocks. PFE,LDK,CSCO,ORCL to name a few. I committed the worst crime of all in buying stocks. I put waaaaay to much on Siri and didnt average down. I bought just before the merger at $2.16 and now Im F’ed along with the rest of us. 48 cents is a complete joke and the bigger joke is all of us bought on emotion. Like Frigin said Great product shitty stock.
Investors who’ve lost their asses in SIRI shouldn’t have to pay a god damn dime for their subscriptions. That’s the least investor relations should do to repair the relationships.
SXMInvestor
You are lucky that every time you got out, it went down and bought more.
What about if every time you got out it went up, like happened to me many times before the merger, you get out, then bounce up higher, eg, 2 wks ago I got out @0.72, then few days later went up tp $1.00, I thought that is it it is gonna go more and bought again @ 1:00. now down to 0.48
If every one cam time the market, this shit won’t happen, it is merely a game of luck
WOW
I wrote to investors relations asking what is going on and why there are no press release or new announcenments from MEL.
They replied promptly with a link to his speech of early septmber !!!!!!
I guess the disconnect is on all levels in this friggin company
Ford is less than a $3 stock and GM is trading around the $8.50 range. GM has talked of selling their headquarters building for more capital. Maybe Mel will close & sell the XM HQ in DC!! Is there any reason why they need two HQ’s? This market is scary shit!! I agree all SIRI shareholders get lifetime subs!
GM is trying to mortgage their building not sell it. My mistake.
Guys,
BK is a real possibility; I have been on this board and listen to the show for a while now I am not a basher, think before you average down again.
I am starting to view it as money lost and if it makes it through then what a nice surprise
Amibankrupt,
You should have seen when I sold at 1.37 in a panic, then bought back at 1.43 when Mel bought shares, then panicked again & sold at 1.31 again & bought back again when he was going on Cramers show, then took that down o .97 because I thought the post Labor day meeting was worth waiting for.
I Freakin disaster and if I gave you the history of the moves I made going up from 1.60 to 9 and back down, you would think I am a complete idiot.
I have realized that you have to go 100% against your emotion with this stock unless their is real big news that would take it to $ 2 overnight.
Always sell at the first hint of excitement of stock going up and I can’t tell anyone when to buy because their seems to be no bottom.
I still think the satellites cost more than the market cap today, but the debt has to be added in for the full enterprise value of around 6.5 billion (5 billion outstanding debt combined I think )
Mel should put in a limit order to buy 3.18 billion shares at 1 cent each. That would only be 31.8 million. Then the price cant go to zero.
Hey SXM. Sorry to hear the girlfriend story. I so totally get it. You get to where if your in this alone, you can handle it much better than if you are trying to live up to anothers expectations. I cashed in some hilton honors points and some casino dollars to make for a few good weekend getaways. Figured, I’d have to find other ways to keep life fun. I actually went through the same scenario as you. Thinking, well if I lose my house and end up with a relative, that will be the end of any relationship. So yo ho yo ho aboard this ship I go.
At this point, I think all stock holders can finally feel the pain we Sirius shareholders have had for years now. And if there continues to be high redemptions in money funds and hedge funds, the dow and Nasdaq will continue to get murdered.
Hey, here is my question. Generally stocks have a book value. But in todays environment book value is hard to value. Assets that once had a high value, now have little value. Leaving me to believe that even the best names in a recession no longer can maintain their book value.
My next question. The stopped shorting financial stocks. But have they stopped shorting index funds????????????????
Hey, I myself think that October is going to follow it’s historical lower market trend. I keep thinking at some time the media assholes and the analysts losers will see Christmas and take their foot off our neck.
Later.
Oh and this stock price. Volume has been light on a dollars traded rate for many days now. But if there are more sellers than buyers we go lower. At this point who is there left to buy???????
Friggen. Be on the coast looking for you soon. Out.
I wonder if there are any other blogs on stocks trading at .48??????
Realistically we could all buy back in at .20. I think this .48 will only hold out for so long. I’m thinking dow 7k. Nas 1.4k with anymore bad news. I’m serious too. One bin laden terrorist attack etc., and zero. So my question is. What happens at zero.
Seriously. funny how we still fund this Iraq war with billions and billions of taxpayer dollars, yet at home we default. In my state, California, we are on schedule to run out of money by Oct 31. Did you see where an Alabama town is about to default. Expect to hear more of this soon.
Just saying. Stay close to your family and be prepared for an emergency. I see people buy gold, and I’m thinking how do you buy gas with gold?
They should ban all short selling and index fund shorting until we get this thing fixed.
My point is. That people are rebalancing their 401k’s etc., into money market funds. Many are halting their contributions. My recent 401k shows a 38% decline, and I had conservative investments. So I switched everything to cash markets. Think about it. Everyone that has access to their funds is doing the same thing forcing these funds to liquidate. Am I an asshole for wanting to feed my family?/ No way, this lesson we all learned with Sirius is no spilling over to all markets. And 5k right now is worth much more than zero.