Is Good News on The Horizon For Auto Sales?
- The Worst Auto Sales In 25 Years
- GM Sales Down 45% – Ford Down 30% – Toyota Down 25%
However, we here at Siriusbuzz, and our readers demand information that goes a bit deeper. With that in mind, lets look back 25 years, the date by which current auto sales were compared. The year was 1983. February of 1983 was the bottom for auto sales. The industry was in a dire situation, and things were very bad. In early 1983, the discussion and headlines about car sales were all doom and gloom.
So how is there good news on the horizon? Well, fast forward to January 1984, and you will find an interesting New York Times headline that points to a banner year in the auto industry.
What we may be seeing between now and December of this year is that the bottom in auto sales has been reached, and that when the auto sector turns around, that is can do so in quick order. With gas prices coming down, the election behind us, credit beginning to flow, and stability in the banking system, the worst is perhaps behind us. I will project that auto sales will begin their rebound in December, and that by Presidents Day in 2009, the auto industry will be stabilized.
For satellite radio, the issue is getting through this slow period, and being in a position to grow and respond when auto sales increase. With many analysts projecting a weak auto market through 2009, it is little wonder that they have taken down their estimates. In my opinion, the auto industry will respond faster than many analysts think simply because of the nature of the business.
Cars depreciate with age. Holding onto a car longer means more repairs, and less value down the road. Consumers will begin to feel the pressure of the trade in value of their car, good deals on new cars, and repair costs that could be mounting.
Slumped sales in the auto channel have been happening for a year now. Depressed sales have been happening for a few months. In my opinion, it is virtually impossible for downward year over year comparisons to continue through all of 2009. By example, Merrill Lynch analyst Jessica Reif Cohen has 2008 projected sales at 13.8 million and 2009 sales at 12.4 million. This is calling for another year of slumping sales, something which I disagree with. If we look at sales since 2006, and projected sales, I feel we can see a flaw in the logic.
- 2006 sales – 16,504,400
- 2007 sales – 16,089,310
- 2008 sales – 13,802,438 (Merrill estimate)
- 2009 sales – 12,455,821 (Merrill estimate)
- 2010 sales – 14,946,985 (Merrill estimate)
The auto industry will respond by giving consumers a better value. The used car market will be dryer environment for low mileage used cars, making the new car market more attractive. The dynamics of car buying and selling simply does not lend itself to two plus years of downward sales. The gap that existed between 2007 and 2008 is abnormal, and that will by nature cause i similar reaction to the upside at some point. It is my opinion that these analysts are projecting too gradual a recovery.
For satellite radio, this could mean that a more favorable opinion of the sector will happen when the auto sales become better. Some analysts are projecting doom and gloom for all of 2009. If sales increase faster, satellite will benefit.
Position: Long SIRI
I don’t base my decisions on anything anyone says on this board. Although it’s way better then the google and yahoo assholes.
I just feel that if you are gonna put out negativity on the stock in a public forum which could (although I admit most likely doesn’t) affect the stock price, that you should be honest about your position.
Otherwise it’s no better than weinkes driving the price down with his projections for the GS short position and eventual long position.
Will you guys please post some over in the forums? The intraday stock thread is for the daily discussion of SIRI.
I get lonely over there..
S_S_F – Look, I think it’s a perfectly legitimate request but the fact of the matter is we don’t who is on here posting and what their true goals are. That’s the nature of boards like this. Hell, I could be Weinkes for all anyone knows. I’m not but that’s how it works.
I like to think I have most everyone on here pegged and what their intentions are. I think we all do. But unless we were to view everyone’s actual holdings, who knows.
I mean, we don’t even know what the writers of the articles here on SiriusBuzz invest in and to what amount. Sure they sometimes say, “Long Sirius” but I’d like to know how long, 10 shares or 100,000 shares.
For some reason I just don’t think that most people are comfortable disclosing their holdings. Where’s the conviction I tell you?
Sirius needs 1 billion next year for refinancing. Increase the subscription by $5 per month and Sirius will have extra 1.2 billion in revenue annually from the 20 million current subscribers.
I agree with those statements, all I ask is that if you are going to lie, at least get THAT straight. Otherwise you’re a liar, AND a retard.
*no pun on your name intended*
Getit…
I have a conviction and not shy about revealing to tell you and everyone i have 11,100 shares that represent an investment of $10,700 and thats the TRUTH. it will take the price to go to .97 to get even but i will ride it higher for next few years. NO RUSH for me.
Believe me S_S_F I feel like a retard being invested in this stock almost on a daily basis. My dad beat me as a child when I did stupid things. I guess he didn’t beat me enough because I continue to do stupid things.
SH – I appreciate the fact that you always seem to be honest and give full disclosure. I hope it works out for you.
GIS. 18k shares. Once held 32K.
Your dad needed to do a two for one, and put me on the beating list.
scrf – ha ha ha.
Mel hurt me BIG, I trusted him and Cramer, took out a home line of credit and bought 10,000 share @ 1.94, then i bought more @ $2.51. I now hold 15,500 shares at a wopping
.27 cents per share. I can’t even cover my INTREST never mind my Principal…Thanks Mel…
G.I.S tell your Dad to beat the day light out of ME !!!!!
Holding LONG / or Forever
GIS
thanks for your good luck wishes and complement and YES i am very honest and upfront. NO BS here. Even though we closed lower today then i bought today. I keep the faith. I live by my motto…nothing great is created suddenly.
This will all workout over time for the pps to get back where it belongs. Patience are rewarded.
Seems everyday after hours there are buyers loading up on this stock…there can’t be many sellers at this level unless the shorts are unloading because they feel CC will be disastrous to them
Good news on the Horizon?
lol
The future of Siri is tremendous. The product absolutely is second to none. Unfortunately it seems paifully obvious to me that the current shareholders will not be participating in the glory. Not selling any shares as almost 90% of my investment is gone so just hoping I’m wrong.
I am thinking real hard here,What can you purchase anywhere for 26 cents?Honestly Help me here , 26 – 1 cent stamps. Come on Mel you can answer that question cant you? (1 share in the company where I am CEO)
When the hell is the quarterly conference call?!?
No date has been announced yet for the Q3 CC.
they’re gonna announce chapter 11 filing instead of a cc
Demian…
I read the articles Tyler posts here. I don’t comment on everyone one of them, But some articles have a greater bearing on the SiriusXM.
When those articles are posted it tends to generate a lot of comments that I enjoy reading. It gives me a chance to read other opnions and pick of some things I might have missed.
I do post in the forums once in a while, But the people over here are more fun to hang out with.
vaporgold
I have seen ads for two GM cars with 2 years subs or sirius!
The dealers get a kickback for the sub!
They will increase the length of subs to help themselves and will intern help SIRIUS!
Socal…
Looks like I am going to have to eat my not going below .25 only the 3rd qtr cc can save me now and who knows when that is going to be for sure.
What about these assholes that are selling 100 shares blocks at the close everyday?
Did you look at the dailey chart today?
We were flat lined until the end of the trading day, the sell off’s driving it down in 100 block shares.
Who are those f—heads in Cinn if they are the ones driving it down at the end of the trading days?
vaporgold
TYLER or BRANDON
If people think BK or chapter 11 is a possibility, or going private !!!
Who and why those investors took $ 160 millions in common shares to refinance the Feb 09 converts??? at 0.37 pps
Why would they waste their millions in the stock if it has gone?
Could you explain this to me please
Many thanks
IT never fails every time i buy more it goes down…never thought it would really hit .26 so i bought at .30 and .28. who knows how low this will really go yet. If the 3Q CC is a flop…beware this pps will see .10 SAD BUT TRUE.
“IT never fails every time i buy more it goes down”
Dear SiriusHope,
Please stop buying. Thank you.
I’m reminded of these words:
“Buy when there’s blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own.”
–Baron Rothschild
PRICES SINCE OCT 1st…
PRICES
Date Open High Low Close Volume Adj Close*
5-Nov-08 0.31 0.32 0.26 0.26 59,111,300 0.26
4-Nov-08 0.33 0.38 0.29 0.32 68,259,700 0.32
3-Nov-08 0.35 0.35 0.30 0.31 53,534,500 0.31
31-Oct-08 0.36 0.36 0.33 0.34 29,179,300 0.34
30-Oct-08 0.40 0.41 0.33 0.35 42,301,200 0.35
29-Oct-08 0.36 0.42 0.33 0.38 64,249,700 0.38
28-Oct-08 0.42 0.42 0.31 0.36 75,386,100 0.36
27-Oct-08 0.33 0.44 0.30 0.38 98,505,500 0.38
24-Oct-08 0.22 0.32 0.22 0.29 64,070,800 0.29
23-Oct-08 0.32 0.33 0.25 0.25 103,483,400 0.25
22-Oct-08 0.36 0.37 0.31 0.31 42,265,000 0.31
21-Oct-08 0.39 0.39 0.36 0.36 34,969,000 0.36
20-Oct-08 0.40 0.40 0.37 0.39 32,307,300 0.39
17-Oct-08 0.38 0.39 0.36 0.38 64,612,100 0.38
16-Oct-08 0.45 0.45 0.38 0.39 79,412,300 0.39
15-Oct-08 0.48 0.49 0.42 0.42 48,431,500 0.42
14-Oct-08 0.55 0.57 0.48 0.48 58,068,900 0.48
13-Oct-08 0.51 0.53 0.46 0.51 52,042,800 0.51
10-Oct-08 0.36 0.48 0.36 0.43 80,373,400 0.43
9-Oct-08 0.49 0.50 0.40 0.40 59,616,300 0.40
8-Oct-08 0.48 0.49 0.45 0.46 48,406,300 0.46
7-Oct-08 0.52 0.53 0.47 0.48 54,049,600 0.48
6-Oct-08 0.58 0.58 0.45 0.50 103,805,000 0.50
3-Oct-08 0.64 0.65 0.58 0.58 39,255,300 0.58
2-Oct-08 0.68 0.69 0.58 0.60 47,279,500 0.60
1-Oct-08 0.64 0.67 0.60 0.65 69,502,600 0.65
Vaporgold. LOL. I bought a few more shares today at .28. Of course as my investment advisor, you promised no .25!
You still have .01 to go. lol. Hey, I’ll catch you and the rest on the new article thread.
There is so much doom and gloom around!
Auto sales will slow yes. But people will still have to keep their old ones running. Hey, maybe people will regain their confidence and realize they can fix their own cars!
Long Sirius. 26000 shares.
Averaged down until they filed for the RS.
Now I am just waiting it out.
At the current lows I feel I will have plenty of time to average down a little more after the Dec vote.
Even on the best of news I do not think this stock is going to sky rocket so fast that I will not have the chance to better my position.
At the worst case RS it’s throwing even more money away. It’s a wait and see for me.
Tyler,
I just don’t understand why some of these people seem to think you or Brandon are their Personal Advisers.
I hope hope they pay you well for the abuse they have been throwing your way.
Thanks for all the GENERAL INFORMATION and your
GENERAL OPINIONS given on this stock.
Best Regards,
WJD
Friggin
I hope all goes well with your friend.
Stay strong and be well.