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    01-07-2009, 05:58 PM #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Demian View Post
    Siriusowner,

    You were telling people on this forum awhile back that it was not a good idea to average down on SIRI, but you are doing just that?
    I am not. I am actually averaging up. If I buy @.13 and then at .14 my cost would be 0.1350. I will only keep buying if it keeps going up. I did not buy any today.

    I may be wrong because I think this issue has reached bottom when it may not but at least I am not trading my self into oblivion.

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    01-07-2009, 06:16 PM #112
    Quote Originally Posted by Siriusowner View Post
    I am not. I am actually averaging up. If I buy @.13 and then at .14 my cost would be 0.1350. I will only keep buying if it keeps going up. I did not buy any today.

    I may be wrong because I think this issue has reached bottom when it may not but at least I am not trading my self into oblivion.
    Siriusowner,

    If you are down on your original position and you buy more it is called "averaging down"....

    You said that you had XM stock that was converted to SIRI stock and that you were in the red with your position. You told people on this board awhile back that if people were down with their SIRI positions, that they should not be averaging down because the company's balance sheet was so bad.

    You said that you bought more and are planning on buying more. It is called "averaging down" when you buy more - adding to your position that is already in the red. You are doing the opposite of what you were recommending to people on this board. You also said that it was safe to buy at .14 and then you said that you told us all that it was going to 10 cents...

    I searched and I never found where you said it was going to .10...

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    01-07-2009, 06:32 PM #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Demian View Post
    Siriusowner,

    If you are down on your original position and you buy more it is called "averaging down"....

    You said that you had XM stock that was converted to SIRI stock and that you were in the red with your position. You told people on this board awhile back that if people were down with their SIRI positions, that they should not be averaging down because the company's balance sheet was so bad.

    You said that you bought more and are planning on buying more. It is called "averaging down" when you buy more - adding to your position that is already in the red. You are doing the opposite of what you were recommending to people on this board. You also said that it was safe to buy at .14 and then you said that you told us all that it was going to 10 cents...

    I searched and I never found where you said it was going to .10...
    Remember I had 2 accounts ?

    I am not buying on the same account, I have 3200 shares @ .57 and 1000 @ .13. Although I did avg. it on a spread sheet I keep for tax purposes from .57 to .47. Thank you, I need to correct that. Those 2 trades do not belong together.

    You also remeber I said it is going to .10 but then I corrected myself and said buy @ .14

    Where's the stock price right now ? Where is it going according to you ? From your comments I gather you are bullish and want the stock to go up.

    Why are you complaing then, have you lost any money or has anybody lost any money because of what I have said ? It is impossible to predict an exact bottom and more with the balance sheet this company has... + Everyone want to risk money so now that the odds have improved, it is the time to do it !! Not before when the price was at .40, .30 or even .20

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    01-07-2009, 06:38 PM #114
    So if one is down on a stock and they open a new account and buy more it is not averaging down?

    I don't think so.....

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    01-07-2009, 06:48 PM #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Siriusowner View Post

    You also remeber I said it is going to .10 but then I corrected myself and said buy @ .14
    That is a flat out lie....

    This is your post on 12/02/08......

    "...it will be "safe" to buy at .14 or a little bit above..."

    http://siriusbuzz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1137

    And this is your post on 12/19/08......

    "I told y'all so... 10 cents"

    http://siriusbuzz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1197

    You said you thought it was safe to buy at .14 and THEN you said that you had told us all 10 cents....

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    01-07-2009, 07:03 PM #116
    Siriusowner,

    To refresh your memory, this is also what you told people on this board in regards to averaging down on 11/24/08.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Siriusowner View Post
    Gents -

    I know most of you think that averaging down is a good strategy. It is not. Just see what happened to ENRON and WORLDCOM. The investors were all bullish like you all. The stock was tanking and individual investors kept adding to the position thinking the stock was getting cheap.... Where are they now ?

    I know everyone is desperate to add since the price seems so cheap but THINK about it, the price is cheap for a REASON (and is not just the economy).

    If you add to the position right now, you may end up loosing all your money.

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    01-07-2009, 09:21 PM #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Demian View Post
    So if one is down on a stock and they open a new account and buy more it is not averaging down?

    I don't think so.....
    No according to the IRS. If I liquidate the one with gains I have to pay taxes, if I liquidate the one with losses I can deduct them.

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    01-07-2009, 09:25 PM #118
    Quote Originally Posted by Demian View Post
    Siriusowner,

    To refresh your memory, this is also what you told people on this board in regards to averaging down on 11/24/08.....
    When was that, almost 2 months ago ? Do you expect me to stay with the same position forever ? 2 months ago this was surely not a good investment (as it is today) BUT the odds have improved, a little bit, but nevertheless improved. It is not the same jumping off a 40 story building than off a 1.3 story building. Jumping off the 1.3 story building you have a chance for survival, of course you gotta jump carefully and not mouth first.
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    01-07-2009, 09:31 PM #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Demian View Post
    That is a flat out lie....

    This is your post on 12/02/08......

    "...it will be "safe" to buy at .14 or a little bit above..."

    http://siriusbuzz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1137

    And this is your post on 12/19/08......

    "I told y'all so... 10 cents"

    http://siriusbuzz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1197

    You said you thought it was safe to buy at .14 and THEN you said that you had told us all 10 cents....
    It may still go to 10 cents, who knows. The damn company is closer to BK than to be profitable. But if you wanna bet, it is safe to buy @ .14, at least you will not loose the house.

    By the way don't bet the house.

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    01-10-2009, 04:59 PM #120

    shares

    35000ish @ .14