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    04-20-2012, 11:45 PM #11
    Democratic Illinois economically outpaces Scott Walker's Wisconsin

    Signing wingnut legislation apparently doesn't create jobs (Darren Hauck/Reuters)
    As I've noted before, Republicans had a great deal of fun back in early 2011 taunting Illinois for (surprisingly) electing a Democratic governor, Pat Quinn. The theory was that Quinn's tax increases, designed to close a huge budget gap, would lead to a business exodus to Gov. Scott Walker's Wisconsin conservative utopia.

    "Years ago Wisconsin had a tourism advertising campaign targeted to Illinois with the motto, `Escape to Wisconsin,'" Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker said in a statement. "Today we renew that call to Illinois businesses, `Escape to Wisconsin.' You are welcome here."
    At CPAC this year, Walker continued that theme:
    "Last year, Governor Quinn proudly proclaimed that they were not going to do things like Wisconsin. Clearly, they did not. Their actions only made matters worse.
    They raised taxes by 67% on individuals and 46% on businesses. That might explain why they dropped 40 spots during the past five years on the same poll that showed Wisconsin up 17 spots in one year alone."

    In reality, turns out that Wisconsin was the only state in the entire country to lose jobs in 2011, while Illinois had better than average growth. The Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia also predicted strong economic growth in Illinois, while placing Wisconsin last in its forecast:
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    04-20-2012, 11:45 PM #12
    Now, an economic analysis by Bloomberg finds that Wisconsin is getting its ass kicked by Illinois.
    Illinois ranked third while Wisconsin placed 42nd in the most recent Bloomberg Economic Evaluation of States index, which includes personal income, tax revenue and employment. Illinois gained 32,000 jobs in the 12 months ending in February, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics found. Wisconsin, where Walker promised to create 250,000 jobs with the help of business-tax breaks, lost 16,900.
    It's conservative mantra that tax increases kill jobs, but reality, as always, contradicts their ideology.
    Quinn is certainly having fun at Walker's expense:


    Quinn was ready for the cross-border critique from Wisconsin, whose state’s employment fell more than any other. Quinn scheduled a news conference less than hour after Walker spoke to announce that LaFarge SA (LG), the Paris-based building materials maker, would move its North American headquarters to Illinois.
    “They have the worst job record in the whole country, dead last,” Quinn, 63, said of Wisconsin. “We certainly don’t want to follow his prescriptions when it comes to economic growth.”

    Walker was elected on a promise to create 250,000 new jobs in his state. Turns out that slashing spending, attacking unions and eliminating workplace pay protections for women ain't doing the trick.
    That's why there's a recall.

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    04-23-2012, 01:14 PM #13
    When one brags about property tax rates one should answer for the failure to create jobs.
    I have seen a number of articles here putting down Illinois simply because its President Obama's
    home state. The hypocrisy is mind numbing.

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    04-23-2012, 03:25 PM #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    When one brags about property tax rates one should answer for the failure to create jobs.
    I have seen a number of articles here putting down Illinois simply because its President Obama's
    home state. The hypocrisy is mind numbing.
    Saving a homeowner tax money is an excellent accomplishment. Sure beats taxing the $hit out of them. Don't you think?

    So that's why you are posting about IL? It's Obama's "home state"? Well, maybe you have a point? IL is in terrible financial shape; just like the USA. Maybe it's Obama???

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    04-23-2012, 03:41 PM #15
    "In reality, turns out that Wisconsin was the only state in the entire country to lose jobs in 2011, while Illinois had better than average growth. The Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia also predicted strong economic growth in Illinois, while placing Wisconsin last in its forecast:"

    Posting about Illinois cause Wisconsin Repubicans were making fun of it. Maybe they should be a
    little more humble, though i know its not normally part of the right wing approach to politics.
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    04-23-2012, 03:57 PM #16
    But Republican Party spokesman Ben Sparks ignored the job losses and focused on a piece of good news in the report showing that the unemployment rate in March dropped from 6.9 percent to 6.8 percent. That's the lowest it's been since 2008 and down from 7.6 percent a year ago. It's also below the national unemployment rate of 8.2 percent.

    "Wisconsin's unemployment rate has steadily dropped since Gov. Walker took office, despite the failed policies of the previous administration that culminated in a 9.2 percent unemployment rate and 150,000 lost jobs," Sparks said. "As our unemployment rate continues to drop, it's clear that Gov. Walker's policies are working and moving Wisconsin forward."


    Here are details to consider http://news.yahoo.com/wisconsin-lose...--finance.html

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    04-23-2012, 04:04 PM #17
    Double take. THE ONLY STATE IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY TO LOSE JOBS IN 2011.

    "In reality, turns out that Wisconsin was the only state in the entire country to lose jobs in 2011, while Illinois had better than average growth. The Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia also predicted strong economic growth in Illinois, while placing Wisconsin last in its forecast:"


    Unemployment rate in Wisconsin has gone back to where it was in 2008? Maybe it had something
    to do with President Obama's stimulus plan which reversed the losses happening from Bush policies.
    Couldnt be. lol. It had to be all Walker.

    How is Wisconsin doing in 2011? 2012 should be interesting as well.
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    04-23-2012, 04:06 PM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by SiriuslyLong View Post
    But Republican Party spokesman Ben Sparks ignored the job losses and focused on a piece of good news in the report showing that the unemployment rate in March dropped from 6.9 percent to 6.8 percent. That's the lowest it's been since 2008 and down from 7.6 percent a year ago. It's also below the national unemployment rate of 8.2 percent.

    "Wisconsin's unemployment rate has steadily dropped since Gov. Walker took office, despite the failed policies of the previous administration that culminated in a 9.2 percent unemployment rate and 150,000 lost jobs," Sparks said. "As our unemployment rate continues to drop, it's clear that Gov. Walker's policies are working and moving Wisconsin forward."


    Here are details to consider http://news.yahoo.com/wisconsin-lose...--finance.html
    Double take.

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    04-23-2012, 04:11 PM #19
    Copy cats are the highest form of flattery.


    Double take. "THE ONLY STATE IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY TO LOSE JOBS IN 2011."
    Obviously he cant explain it.

    Facts to be avoided at all cost cause their gods like Walker and Schiff are infaliable.

    "In reality, turns out that Wisconsin was the only state in the entire country to lose jobs in 2011, while Illinois had better than average growth. The Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia also predicted strong economic growth in Illinois, while placing Wisconsin last in its forecast:"

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    04-23-2012, 04:14 PM #20
    Quote Originally Posted by SiriuslyLong View Post
    But Republican Party spokesman Ben Sparks ignored the job losses and focused on a piece of good news in the report showing that the unemployment rate in March dropped from 6.9 percent to 6.8 percent. That's the lowest it's been since 2008 and down from 7.6 percent a year ago. It's also below the national unemployment rate of 8.2 percent.

    "Wisconsin's unemployment rate has steadily dropped since Gov. Walker took office, despite the failed policies of the previous administration that culminated in a 9.2 percent unemployment rate and 150,000 lost jobs," Sparks said. "As our unemployment rate continues to drop, it's clear that Gov. Walker's policies are working and moving Wisconsin forward."


    Here are details to consider http://news.yahoo.com/wisconsin-lose...--finance.html
    No fact here........... Unemployment rate is a government statistic. Are you telling me you think it's wrong? Starting to sound like me.

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