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    07-31-2010, 09:17 AM #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    Here is another.

    http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwald...e-biggest.html

    I will get your more later unless you cry uncle now. I have to go out for work. Have a good day.
    "Democrats want spending. Republican want tax cuts."

    Indeed, I do agree with this republican ideology as it is DIRECTLY beneficial to me and all that I know, and as I have pointed out time and time again, when the federal government collects one tax dollar, the American people get 50 cents of goods and services from it. The other half pays for non value added bureaucracy. I have a hard time believing you accept that. Personally, I find it upsetting.

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    08-01-2010, 12:49 AM #22
    I thought your argument was that Obama didnt pass large tax cuts?
    I proved he did.

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    08-01-2010, 10:43 AM #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    I thought your argument was that Obama didnt pass large tax cuts?
    I proved he did.
    Large tax cuts were passed? When, where? Did I get one? Did my friends get one. Who got one?

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    08-01-2010, 10:54 AM #24
    BTW - have you thought about this from above?

    "....as I have pointed out time and time again, when the federal government collects one tax dollar, the American people get 50 cents of goods and services from it. The other half pays for non value added bureaucracy. I have a hard time believing you accept that."

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    08-02-2010, 12:44 AM #25
    Quote Originally Posted by SiriuslyLong View Post
    Large tax cuts were passed? When, where? Did I get one? Did my friends get one. Who got one?
    S&L please dont tell me you are really that thick? WOW. i showed you the articles. Do you want me to dig up more? I can certainly do that because there are many of them.

    Biggest in History?

    Thursday February 12, 2009
    The Democrats have been so busy defending federal spending, and denigrating the stimulative power of tax cuts, that they apparently either forgot to -- or felt they couldn't -- point out something rather dramatic: the tax cuts in this stimulus plan appear to be the biggest in history.
    The compromise stimulus plan includes $282 billion in tax cuts over two years.
    According to the Wall Street Journal, Bush's first two years of tax cuts amounted to $174 billion. A second batch in 2004 and 2005 cost $231. And those were thought to be bigger than the tax cuts offered by Reagan, Kennedy or others.
    Now, perhaps some new analysis will show that the tax cuts end up not quite being the largest in history by this measure or that. But it's clear they're massive.
    I'm ducking the debate on whether this is economically good or bad -- but surely it ought to be a big story.
    It leads to two further points. The fight got boiled down to: Democrats want spending. Republican want tax cuts. This is partly the media's fault for following the script layed out by the Congressional leaders, but it also represents a lost opportunity by Obama. In his press conference, he mostly made the case for spending. He didn't make the case for the massive size of his tax cuts.
    Second, Obama kept a campaign promise that few Republican thought he'd keep. If this weren't part of a larger package, that would be an enormous story. A liberal Democrat in the campaign promised the biggest tax cut in history. Republicans said it was a complete charade (and many liberals didn't much like it anyway). And the Democrat in his first few weeks delivers the tax cut.
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    08-02-2010, 09:25 PM #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    S&L please dont tell me you are really that thick? WOW. i showed you the articles. Do you want me to dig up more? I can certainly do that because there are many of them.

    Biggest in History?

    Thursday February 12, 2009
    The Democrats have been so busy defending federal spending, and denigrating the stimulative power of tax cuts, that they apparently either forgot to -- or felt they couldn't -- point out something rather dramatic: the tax cuts in this stimulus plan appear to be the biggest in history.
    The compromise stimulus plan includes $282 billion in tax cuts over two years.
    According to the Wall Street Journal, Bush's first two years of tax cuts amounted to $174 billion. A second batch in 2004 and 2005 cost $231. And those were thought to be bigger than the tax cuts offered by Reagan, Kennedy or others.
    Now, perhaps some new analysis will show that the tax cuts end up not quite being the largest in history by this measure or that. But it's clear they're massive.
    I'm ducking the debate on whether this is economically good or bad -- but surely it ought to be a big story.
    It leads to two further points. The fight got boiled down to: Democrats want spending. Republican want tax cuts. This is partly the media's fault for following the script layed out by the Congressional leaders, but it also represents a lost opportunity by Obama. In his press conference, he mostly made the case for spending. He didn't make the case for the massive size of his tax cuts.
    Second, Obama kept a campaign promise that few Republican thought he'd keep. If this weren't part of a larger package, that would be an enormous story. A liberal Democrat in the campaign promised the biggest tax cut in history. Republicans said it was a complete charade (and many liberals didn't much like it anyway). And the Democrat in his first few weeks delivers the tax cut.
    Thick? All I'm asking is for someone to show me the money. Where were my taxes cut? 2050?

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    08-02-2010, 11:13 PM #27
    You are being beyond ridiculous. I said Obama helped pass one of the biggest tax cuts ever. You said no way. i proved it. Do you want additional articles for further proof,which you will simply ignore? And now we understand how everything is always about YOU. WOW.

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    08-03-2010, 09:50 AM #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    You are being beyond ridiculous. I said Obama helped pass one of the biggest tax cuts ever. You said no way. i proved it. Do you want additional articles for further proof,which you will simply ignore? And now we understand how everything is always about YOU. WOW.
    Me = average Joe; so the perspective is good. Will you please answer the question; who is getting their taxes cut and when? This is information not gleened from your links.

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