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    06-16-2010, 12:15 AM #41
    First of all if you read all of John's posts on the oil spill you would have no idea that a company named BP had anything to do with it. Aint that a pisser.

    John quote.
    "once again i will say it, i dont think it would have been made such a big deal if it would never hit the shore line."

    I love that John is now the resident expert on oil spills. Mr. drill baby drill. Mr. its a drop in the bucket. Mr. anti-environmentalist. Priceless.

    Its only important if we can see it on the shore. WOW!
    John says this as up to 2.5 million gallons leak each and every day into our ocean doing untold damage to the fishing industry (last i checked fish actually swam in the ocean and not on land. lmfao) of the gulf region.
    You prove yourself to be a big fat dumbass twit with each and every statement you make and i say that with the utmost respect and affection.
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    06-16-2010, 12:25 PM #42
    I never knew that John was such a big supporter of the concept of the world community,(including all those socialist countries) coming to our aid when trouble arises here at home.
    I am now feeling more and more optimistic that john having now joined the community of nations will support the UN in all its efforts around the world.

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    06-16-2010, 01:13 PM #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    You are right John "they are not the exact words" . You betcha got it wrong and you completely missed that Beck lied in pointing to the screen of the exact video that was showing on all the tv stations and saying exactly what i quoted. I cant help it if reality is something that you find hard to accept. Its clear as the day yet you continue to protect Mr. Beck from his lies and mistakes by telling more lies. Sad.

    Dumbass he also was pointing at the screen when he said this:

    "You would be HARD-PRESSED TO SEE IT HERE IN AMERICA FROM OTHER MEDIA OUTLETS besides FOX."

    Once again the definition of "hard-pressed": That you would find it difficult, NOT IMPOSSIBLE, just difficult.

    Once again if you were not HARD-pressed to see THOSE videos then their would have been no need for Israel to say and do these things:

    "We are the only country that is guilty until proven innocent"

    "WE CON THE WORLD"

    I guess Israel disagrees with you and Jon Steward then Havasucker.

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    06-16-2010, 01:33 PM #44
    You really like those words "hard-pressed" dont you? Hmm wonder why.

    You seem hard - pressed to remember "Turn on any media outlet, other than Fox. They are NOT going to show you this." False.

    That was pure egotism (something you are obviously not hard-presssed to know a lot about. ) at work and obviously he got caught in a lie.

    You are in denial about your guru. Sorry.
    I suppose he didnt mock a 11 year old either after saying no one should talk about peoples children? Did you read the transcript i provided? Shows him to be a trite and ugly individual.

    His audience has shrunk almost in half since January, 2010. There are many reasons obviously. I would suggest people are starting to understand how sick he is.

    P.S. His name is John Stewart with a T not a D. Your spelling really needs work. Bad influence on the youth of today.
    Have you ever been to Israel? I have several times. Maybe i know a little more about Israel then you? Dont you think?
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    06-16-2010, 01:49 PM #45
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    John, one more time until it gets into your thick head.

    Glen Beck "Turn on any media outlet, other than Fox. They are not going to show you THIS" (this, this, this, this.. You understand this?) AS HE POINTS (points, points, points, points. You understand points?) TO THE SAME EXACT VIDEO THAT EVERY MEDIA OUTLET HAD SHOWN AS EARLY AS 24 HOURS BEFORE HIM.

    And John i can show you where ALL the other videos shown on Beck's show were on other media outlets. Yes john i looked at the entirety of the Beck show and no John the footage he shows was not exclusive in any way to Fox. You understand now that you can try all you want to protect one of your guru's but it aint going to work.

    It cant be any clearer.Any attempt at obfuscation on you part is just part of a continued pattern of you lying. Sad.

    I know you want to concentrate on the term "hard pressed" but how about you concentrate on what i posted above. "Turn on any media outlet, other than Fox. They are not going to show you this" Wrong and an outright fabrication.

    That is total bullshit, then please show me. Yes link to the other NEWS out lets that showed those other videos Beck showed. Yes havasucker thats right I not only want the link but the date to that show and it had better be before Becks show because I will be looking. I also expect you to be able to give me a huge list because on FOX you couldn't watch the channel for longer then 1 hour without seeing the story and the videos. So I expect to see a long list from each station, MSNBC, CNN, As a matter of fact everytime they talked about it they should have showed the video just as FOX did. I also dont expect to here them say things like "Israel is trying hard to put their spin on this", when they are playing it.


    The reason is because he said both as he was pointing to that very same screen. The fact is he was right, because there were many main news outlets that did not play even one of those videos and the ones that did only played the one and not very often while they reported on the story. Not only that but when some of the rest finally did they would say things like this: "Israel is trying hard to put their spin on this."

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    06-16-2010, 02:24 PM #46
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    First of all if you read all of John's posts on the oil spill you would have no idea that a company named BP had anything to do with it. Aint that a pisser.

    John quote.
    "once again i will say it, i dont think it would have been made such a big deal if it would never hit the shore line."

    I love that John is now the resident expert on oil spills. Mr. drill baby drill. Mr. its a drop in the bucket. Mr. anti-environmentalist. Priceless.

    Its only important if we can see it on the shore. WOW!
    John says this as up to 2.5 million gallons leak each and every day into our ocean doing untold damage to the fishing industry (last i checked fish actually swam in the ocean and not on land. lmfao) of the gulf region.
    You prove yourself to be a big fat dumbass twit with each and every statement you make and i say that with the utmost respect and affection.


    First of all, will you quit putting qoute marks around things that are not direct qoutes. If you cant bother to go back and just cut and paste the whole thing and then link then just leave it out and say john said something like this. Havasucker I know you think nothing of it because it is just being DISHONEST and you being a DISHONEST PERSON you dont think about it as being such but really it is getting ridiculous.


    Next it is clear you dont have any idea of magnitude So here are some examples:

    http://www.epicdisasters.com/index.p...st_oil_spills/


    "The World’s Worst Oil Spills
    The Ten Worst Oil Spills In History.

    Update: New estimates place the Deepwater Horizon spill at 84 million gallons—enough to catapult it into 6th place overall.

    The World’s Ten Worst Oil Spills

    Since one purpose of this site is to put disasters into perspective, I’ll note that in spite of all the hand-wringing about man-made oil spills, the worst culprit is nature herself. Natural oil leaks form the ocean floor annually spill many times more than the amount lost from broken tankers and destroyed rigs. Off the coast of Santa Barbara, for example, there is a naturally occurring leak that seeps 20 - 25 tons of oil each day, and has done so for several hundred thousand years. Department of Energy studies on this, and on other leaks, conclude that each year, more than 47 million gallons leak naturally into US waters. Compare that to the number eleven spill on this list, which was a one-time loss of 45 million gallons.

    All that said, here are the Top Ten Worst Oil Spills.

    1.
    Arabian Gulf/Kuwait
    January 1991
    380 - 520 million gallons

    Attempting to slow the Allied advance, Saddam Hussein’s Iraqi forces dumped an estimated 380 - 520 million gallons of oil into the Persian Gulf from offshore oil terminals.

    2.
    Ixtoc 1 Oil Spill
    Bay of Campeche, Ciudad del Carmen, Mexico
    June 1979 - March 1980
    140 million gallons

    An offshore oil well blew and ignited, causing the drilling rig to collapse. Oil spilled out of the fissure into the Gulf of Mexico at a rate of 10,000 - 30,000 barrels a day until the well was capped. All told, an estimated 140 million gallons was spilled.

    3.
    Atlantic Empress Oil Spill
    Trinidad and Tobago
    July 19, 1979
    90 million gallons

    The Atlantic Empress oil tanker collided with another ship, the Aegean Captain and sprung a leak. Approximately 90 million gallons was spilled. Twenty six were killed.

    4.
    Fergana Valley
    Uzbekistan
    March 2, 1992
    88 million gallons

    An oil line leak released 88 million gallons in to Uzbekistan’s heavily populated Fergana valley.

    5.
    Kolva River Oil Spill
    Kolva River, Russia
    September 8, 1994
    84 million gallons

    A leak from an oil pipeline spilled 84 million gallons into the Russian Arctic region.

    6.
    Deepwater Horizon
    Gulf of Mexico
    April 20, 2010 - ?
    84 million gallons (estimated).

    Following an explosion on the Deepwater Horizon rig that killed 11, the broken facility has leaked an estimated 84 million gallons from the ocean floor.

    7.
    Nowruz Oil Field
    Iran
    Feb 10 - Sept 18 1983
    80 million gallons

    An oil platform collapsed after being hit by a tanker, sending oil into the Persian Gulf. Eighty million gallons were spilled before it was capped. Delays were blamed on the first Gulf War. Eleven were killed trying to stop it.

    8.
    Castillo de Beliver Oil Spill
    South Africa
    August 6, 1983
    79 million gallons

    The Castillo de Beliver, a tanker, caught fire and broke in two, sending 79 million gallons into the Saldanha Bay northwest of Cape Town.

    9.
    Amoco Cadiz Oil Spill
    France
    March 16, 1978
    69 million gallons

    Caught by a winter storm, the Amoco Cadiz ran aground at Portsall, France. Breaking in two, it sent 69 million gallons into the ocean.

    10.
    ABT Summer Oil Spill
    Angola
    May 28, 1991
    51 - 81 million gallons

    Seven hundred miles off the coast of Angola, the ABT Summer exploded, releasing 51 - 81 million gallons into the ocean. Five crew were killed.

    11.
    M/T Haven Tanker Oil Spill
    Genoa, Italy
    April 11, 1991
    45 million gallons

    The oil tanker explosion killed six, sank the ship and leaked oil for twelve years. A total of 45 million gallons was released.

    Posted by The Editor on 06/12 at 10:21 AM"


    Now when was it that we last heard or even EVER made such a big deal of those 6 leaks that were BIGGER then this one, HUMMMMMMMMMM. Yes so I guess out of sight out of mind means something doesn't it.

    AND yes fish do but reporters DONT and if they cant see it they wont report it. HAVASUCKER THE PROOF IS IN THE REPORTING. You did not see it until it started to hit the shore, ABOUT THIRTY DAYS LATER. SO LYMFAO AT THAT, THE TRUTH IN YOUR MIND IS HARD TO GET OVER ISN'T IT.

    You see havasucker the truth is Bush is not president anymore and most of the media did all it could to protect Obama but they could not do it anymore after it started to hit the shore line. The jig was up at that point. Yes I know it must have been hard for you when the media was working against your ideology just to protect Obama and yes I know that while you are the only one that doesn't think Obama is to blame for letting this oil get this far, by failing to act in cleaning it up and we all know it is a hard position for you to be in.

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    06-16-2010, 02:27 PM #47
    Its not bullshit John. Though you sound very tough you got it wrong.
    I watched numerous videos released by Israel on all on you tube and a number of online sites (including Reuters, Haaretz, Huffingtonpost etc) I dont watch Fox normally so i didnt see them there. Hmmm so i wonder where i could have seen them then. lol.

    You keep avoiding the obvious. Here is Beck once again in all his lying glory.
    "Turn on any media outlet, other than Fox News. They are not going to show you this".

    Once again absolutely false. I wish i had the Stewart researchers because we already know that one of the videos played on ALL the news stations.

    You are a ball of laughs. Why is it so hard to just simply admit that Beck slips up from time to time? Its human you know.

    Oh, i still havent heard from you about Beck mocking an 11 year old. Did you read that transcript i was talking about.?Ugly stuff no?

    Why do you think he is losing so much of his audience?

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    06-16-2010, 02:49 PM #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    You really like those words "hard-pressed" dont you? Hmm wonder why.

    You seem hard - pressed to remember "Turn on any media outlet, other than Fox. They are NOT going to show you this." False.

    That was pure egotism (something you are obviously not hard-presssed to know a lot about. ) at work and obviously he got caught in a lie.

    You are in denial about your guru. Sorry.
    I suppose he didnt mock a 11 year old either after saying no one should talk about peoples children? Did you read the transcript i provided? Shows him to be a trite and ugly individual.

    His audience has shrunk almost in half since January, 2010. There are many reasons obviously. I would suggest people are starting to understand how sick he is.

    P.S. His name is John Stewart with a T not a D. Your spelling really needs work. Bad influence on the youth of today.
    Have you ever been to Israel? I have several times. Maybe i know a little more about Israel then you? Dont you think?


    He said both things and because I know you did not watch his show, otherwise you would not still be on this. Because you would know exactly what he was saying and that he was not lying.


    I suppose you think it is ok for all the other laim steam media to do it but not FOX right. All the other media said it was ok when they attacked Palins kids to include a 1 YEAR old special needs kid. I mean really how low can you go?? I guess for that answer we need only look at MSNBC, CNN, The New York Times, and the Hoffington Post, right, they after all, were the ones that set that standard for that.


    Beck still gets more people to watch him then all of the shows on MSNBC gets to watch them COMBINED. Hooo that must hurt doesn't it.


    I tell you what, because you seem to be the one that cares so much about grammatical errors, when you can get your shit right and start to capitalize letters that need to be, then maybe since I dont care I would. Then again I dont care so why should I, You on the other hand seem to care alot about it, so you just must not KNOW when they need to be capitalized.

    You see the difference While I am a person that doesn't care about it, you are a dumbass because you do, yet you keep making the same mistakes.

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    06-16-2010, 02:52 PM #49
    i quess since nature spills oil we shouldnt worry our pretty little heads about man made ones huh? Brilliant. And what should we be doing about all the natural leakage? i quess we should have permanent booms huh? Maybe we should put you in charge of oil cleanup all along our coasts? Lol

    So which is it because you are driving me crazy.You seem to be all over the map with your concerns. Very confusing. Are you concerned or unconcerned.

    Are you sure your figures are right about the present Horizon spill? They just upgraded the amount leaking to something approaching 60,000 barrels a day or up to 2.5 million gallons a day. I think i might wait till i put a final total on the amount until we are through with this event.

    My points were very simple. Its not just the oil on shore that is drawing concern, its also the giant plumes underwater and oil dispersed in the ocean thats is killing our wildlife and fish. We are America and we care about these things. At least some of us do.

    Hey dummy. I reported the event of the spill on April 30. And i read about it on April 20th. Now where do you think i got the info. Bozo i got it from reporters. Yep i got it from reporters and i followed up with other articles soon after. You cant be that dumb can you. Never mind.LOL.

    I know you are not an environmentalist, but if you had an interest lets say in the area of pollution you might just read about this stuff ALL the time. You just have to be interested . I cant help it if you didnt care until Obama came into office. LMFAO.

    Here is one report on oil spill. SO MANY MORE WHEN IT HAPPENED. When did they first report it on Fox news by the way? VERY CURIOUS since you get almost all your news from there.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_552491.html

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    06-16-2010, 03:15 PM #50
    John i just asked a simple question. Why has Beck's audience shrunk up to a half its former size?
    No need to change the subject.

    Yes Beck said both things. And obviously he was wrong. Man up and admit you made a mistake. Those images were all over the media. i saw them dummy.
    I mean he had to own up to his mocking of an 11 year old because he had so obviously just said no one should do it. Very little self control on that guy. kind of reminds me of you. They always say the faster you admit your mistakes the better off things will be. Oh well.
    I think its wrong for ANYONE to attack politicians kids. I think Beck did it in a particular vile and mean spirited way. I can post the transcript again if you want cause you seem to want to avoid the exact words he spoke. Are you ok with them?

    I always believe in making the effort at spelling, grammar, and punctuation.We all make mistakes. We are human. But i seem to remember you said YOU DIDNT CARE. I quess thats the difference between you and me. Remember when you accused me of spell check? Thats was really funny
    because as my wife can attest I wouldnt know the goddamn littliest thing about it.
    I heard that Palin used to call her own child "retarted". Maybe it was in a lighthearted way in her opinion. Well you can believe it or not. Lets just say she MIGHT be a hypocrite. At least her almost son in law said so. People who live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.

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