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    05-25-2010, 06:25 PM #161
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    John, I think if Palin was President or Vice President that she would quit the job before her term is out because she couldn't take the heat. She did it in Alaska, and she would do it to America. She would use a lame excuse like if I don't quit it would hurt my country. But, she hasn't the backbone to ever finish the job. She's going to make a great living as a talking head on TV. And she'll do great on the speaking circuit. But, her days in government are over. Thank goodness!

    I think you spend way to much time listening to Rush Limbaugh. He is nothing more than an entertainer that has made himself very wealthy taking advantage of people like you. He's a genius at making money and entertaining! But, that's not where I would ever go to find anything out about anything in the world. He can bend the truth almost as good as you can. He has no real credibility. He just likes to bully his opponents with nonsense. I love to listen to the guy, he's funnier than George Carlin or Jerry Lewis could ever be. But, he sure has a warped idea of America.

    It's guys like Beck and Limbaugh that make people like you feel empowered to post such hateful things as "At least 70% of South American immigrants are dumb twits or just lazy". It's just crazy John, that's all it is.


    As for Palin she took on her own party when she saw them being dishonest. She has been responsible for getting rid of corrupt oil regulators While on that same board and even changing the rules so that the current governor could not appoint a senator after the passed one appointed his own kid. Why do you think even the democrats liked her so much (that was to change once she went after one of their own though, that is just the way they work.)

    Once again you are doing just what the MSM wants you to do, listen to them and not the facts. Hey how is that Obama thing working out for you, didn't the MSM also say he was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Not a racist bone in his body, right isn't that what they said! Then how does a man that they discribe say and believe this; "White folks greed runs a world in need.". According to the MSM he was supposed to be so smart and worldly well how can a man like that not know how to say "Navy Corpsmen" (yes Obama the "P" is silent). Hey didn't the MSM say he was a moderate, has he really done anything that would suggest that.

    Yes you call Rush wrong, yet the funny thing is, just like me he seems to be able to call things that end up happening way in advance with a high percentage of accuracy. Yes I know your liberial brain cant ever seem to rap itself around those kinds of condratictions can it.

    So lets look at some of the recent things Rush said that came true:

    1) He said Obama is a socailist radical, well before he became president.

    2) He said watch what happens in 2010 you are going to get such a backlash towards the democrats for the over reaching THEY WILL END UP DOING (that because he said it just after they came to office in Jan. of 2008.).

    3) He called Obama a racist before Obama said; (before knowing the facts behind it) "The police acted stupidly".

    4) That other nations will not respect Obama or are nation for the apologies he is making and will do exactly the opposite.

    5) He said he hopes Obama fails, (and for the people that dont listen to him he said exactly why and what Obama succeeding would mean to this country). Look at his healthcare and how many hoped Obama failed to get it.

    The list gos on and on and for those that listen they heard Rush repost his predictions he made months and years before to show that he called it way in advance and how close he was to it actually happening just as he said it would.

    Rush does nothing special, just like I dont, it is called common sense and logic.

    As for the hate you say I say, it is the truth you and your pollitcally correct followers that dont believe in and are the reasons this country is going to go down a rat hole. Here let me give you some examples:

    1) Fort Hood TERRORIST attack.

    2) Wanting to build a mosque next to where the World trade Center was.

    3) Cant say extreme radical muslim terrorist (well who are we fighting then). http://infidelsarecool.com/2010/05/1...ary-committee/

    4) Give the foreign terrorist all the rights citizens of the United States have.

    5) To include a trials here in the US federial courts (I guess terrorist are no worse then bank robbers).

    That list gos on and on to but if you dont get the point from those then there is no sense in going on.


    Yes it would be dumb to just say this; "At least 70% of South American immigrants are dumb twits or just lazy". If I did not back it up with common sense, logic and facts.

    As an example, the definition of insane is; doing the samething over and over again and expecting a different result.

    These people came from a highly socialist country, yet 70% of them then vote for the same people that would bring that same kind of system in here that they just got through running from.

    Here let me give an example even you can understand:

    Lets say the police come and see TWO dead people and a guy with a gun. The guy says, ho no it was an accident, I did not know the gun was loaded. The police then say well how the hell did you shoot both people? The guy then states, well I thought the gun was empty the first time and then after the first shot I figured for sure it was empty the second time.

    Think that sounds crazy?????

    Something close to that example happened in Massachusetts. It just so happens, Martha Coakley, the Massachusetts Attorney General let the very same women off for that excuse that then latter killed 2 of her coworkers.

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    05-25-2010, 06:57 PM #162
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    Your friend Joe Bastardi admits "Earth continues warmest winter since satellite measurements started". Thats right, its getting warmer. NOT COLDER. just the facts not your spin zone. lol.

    http://climateprogress.org/2010/03/0...est-on-record/
    Ha yes and what you forgot to mention is that that started after the big chill when YOUR SAME SCIENTIST were calling it the new ICE AGE.

    Yes it has been getting warmer since then and yes we have also had almost ten years of cooling. Like I said, even your guy Bill Nye does not say it has not gotten cooler since 2000 but that Joe Bastardi's graph did not go back far enough. There is just one other fact you leave out and that is that if it did not start to get warmer from the 70s then we would be in another ICE AGE by now. These are facts you like to leave out Havasucker.

    Here are some more you cant explain: The earth has also been getting warmer since the last "Little Ice Age" (WHICH ENDED IN THE LATE 1700s TO EARLY 1800s) so what was the cause of that warming which was much greater??? Boy there must have been some major industry pollution going on then right.

    Here is the answer you dumbshit: The earth has NORMAL cycles it goes through. We just happen to be in a down swing at the present time EVEN YOUR OWN GUY ADMITS THAT.

    "From Miami to Maine, Savannah to Seattle, America is caught in an icy grip that one of the U.N.'s top global warming proponents says could mark the beginning of a mini ice age."

    Oranges are freezing and millions of tropical fish are dying in Florida, and it could be just the beginning of a decades-long deep freeze, says Professor Mojib Latif, one of the world's leading climate modelers.


    "Latif is a key member of the UN's climate research arm, which has long promoted the concept of global warming. He told the Daily Mail that "a significant share of the warming we saw from 1980 to 2000 and at earlier periods in the 20th Century was due to these cycles -- perhaps as much as 50 percent."

    http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/...cientist-says/

    Notice even he says warming upto 2000 and the article is from Jan. of 2010.

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    05-25-2010, 07:20 PM #163
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    The facts again are difficult for John to accept. Palin lost the debates against Biden in every poll taken by the news channels. THE PEOPLE spoke and you now want to talk about SOME PUNDITS. What are you some kind of elitist?

    That is just their take from several channels. There are facts you cant seem to grasp here and that is that that debate had happened well after the MSM started it's attack campaign on Palin and so it is amazing that she even got as high as she did concidering all the attacks most of the MSM did on her. Look at candleman I give him facts of her approval ratings in her state as governor and he still thinks someone that does that good of a job running a state with a 76% approval rating AFTER 2 YEARS is a dummy. That same dummy was able to get rid of 2 regulators on the same board she sat on that were corrupt and yet were able to stay for as long as they did UNTIL Palin came and changed all that. That dummy forced 2 of them out. So what do you think would happen in a poll of people that watch everything except FOX. Where Palin is called an idiot and Biden is call a genius. I am sure they never hread many of the gaffs Biden made but heard everyone Palin did. Humm as an example you like to bring up Palin and Alaska being so close to Russia. Then nothing of Biden NOT knowing when FDR was president or when TV was invented. To say nothing about his foriegn pololy mistakes of hummm just off the top of my head, wasn't it him who said we should divide Iraq up into 3 different countries. Yes that is just another brilliant idea wasn't it, and another couple of little factoids I bet "candleman" never got.

    Thats just what I talked about before, thats just where the MSM pointed him so thats exactly where he went. I guess if the MSM would have lead him by the nose off a cliff he would have went with no problem.

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    05-25-2010, 07:29 PM #164
    Quote Originally Posted by candleman View Post
    This is completely off topic Havakasha.

    The topic is that John thinks people from South America are dumb twits or lazy. He thinks that because he thinks they voted for President Obama.

    This is not about some screwy weather guy's unscientific theories. LMAO

    Thanks,
    Chuck

    Yes and once again that same "screwy weather guy's unscientific theories" has been the most accurate at predicting the weather and hurricanes before it happens. You must have missed the part where he says, "if you look here and boy isn't amazing it is JUST AS I SAID WOULD HAPPEN". Then again anyone that watches that clip knows Bill Nye looked like he had his head up his butt on that debate. Have you guys ever wondered why the "man made global warming crowd dont like to debate??? Thats because everytime they do, they lose, it is a fact that more people come out then went in not believeing in "MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING", then again Havasucker knows about that link in which it shows of the few polls that are taken before and after these debates it shows just as I said it did.

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    05-25-2010, 07:35 PM #165
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    I profusely apologize for going off topic. LMFAO.

    But while i am off topic i might as well put this down also.

    Misrepresenting Obama's audiobook, Hannity claimed Obama
    said "White folks greed runs a world in Need".

    "Hannity having falsely characterized these words as Obama's DESPITE HAVING PREVIOUSLY NOTED THAT THEY WERE WRIGHT'S..."

    So they were Wright's words and NOT OBAMA'S. Obama was quoting Wright.
    and not approvingly.

    This is what twisted information you get if you listen to FOX. Hence that is why we have a crackpot like John on this site spewing all kinds of LIES. He is a liar (and not a lier like John likes to say.lol)

    So if John quotes Obama's words WE CAN ALL NOW SAY THAT THEY WERE JOHN'S WORDS. LMFAO.

    First to correct misinformation Hannity said: It was from his own book!!!! wasn't it. Hannity said this is Obama saying it from his book; and let the audio go. Next Obama was qouting Wright and it was approvingly. That is why Havasucker cant bring up the full context of what was said. So Havasucker prove me wrong and link to the full qoute FROM THE BOOK.

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    05-25-2010, 07:59 PM #166
    Here because I know Havasucker wont do it I will:


    "The title of Reverend Wright's sermon that morning was "The Audacity of Hope." He began with a passage from the Book of Samuel -- the story of Hannah, who, barren and taunted by her rivals, had wept and shaken in prayer before her God. The story reminded him, he said, of a sermon a fellow pastor had preached at a conference some years before, in which the pastor described going to a museum and being confronted by a painting titled Hope.

    "The painting depicts a harpist," Reverend Wright explained, "a woman who at first glance appears to be sitting atop a great mountain. Until you take a closer look and see that the woman is bruised and bloodied, dressed in tattered rags, the harp reduced to a single frayed string. Your eye is then drawn down to the scene below, down to the valley below, where everywhere are the ravages of famine, the drumbeat of war, a world groaning under strife and deprivation.

    "It is this world, a world where cruise ships throw away more food in a day than most residents of Port-au-Prince see in a year, where white folks' greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere ...That's the world! On which hope sits!"



    So now I ask you where in that qoute does it look like Obama does not agree with the "White floks greed runs a world in need". From that qoute AS MATTER OF FACT one takes away that Obama COMPLETELY AGREES WITH IT.

    You see no where in there do we see Obama say I disagree with that but even gives the example of it. Hey candleman I guess according to your own statements here about me you must also think Obama is a hater right. Maybe Obama and Wright dont think there are black people that take cruise ships ether.


    You see Havasucker it is as good as saying Obama said it because he used it in his book to show that is how he feels it is a perfect example of what he thinks.


    Here is the point Havasucker and why you cant be trusted to tell the truth if your life depended on it. It would be one thing if Obama would have said hey I have heard some crazy things in my life even from my own reverend and then used the qoute of Wright. That is not what Obama did though, what Obama did is basically say White floks are greedy and they control the world and here is a qoute from my reverend that somes it up perfectly.

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    05-25-2010, 08:14 PM #167
    Quote Originally Posted by candleman View Post
    It took me less than five minutes of Googling to find this out. I did that a while ago, but I wasn't going to bring it up to John. I just like to let him dig his own holes. It makes him look very silly.

    I'll say it one more time Havakasha. I don't like Obama! But, he's not a socialist, he's not a racist, and he's not going to ruin our country. He's our President and he deserves our respect.

    These people that bend his words and tell lies about him are the lowest kind of scum. They deserve no respect at all. They are just as bad as people that would bend George Bush's words against him.

    You wanna know what a racist is. A racist is someone who would take the population of an entire continent and call the vast majority of them dumb twits or just lazy. That's what a racist is!


    Here then dumbass show me where in here does it look like Obama is DISagreeing with the qoute:

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    "The title of Reverend Wright's sermon that morning was "The Audacity of Hope." He began with a passage from the Book of Samuel -- the story of Hannah, who, barren and taunted by her rivals, had wept and shaken in prayer before her God. The story reminded him, he said, of a sermon a fellow pastor had preached at a conference some years before, in which the pastor described going to a museum and being confronted by a painting titled Hope.

    "The painting depicts a harpist," Reverend Wright explained, "a woman who at first glance appears to be sitting atop a great mountain. Until you take a closer look and see that the woman is bruised and bloodied, dressed in tattered rags, the harp reduced to a single frayed string. Your eye is then drawn down to the scene below, down to the valley below, where everywhere are the ravages of famine, the drumbeat of war, a world groaning under strife and deprivation.

    "It is this world, a world where cruise ships throw away more food in a day than most residents of Port-au-Prince see in a year, where white folks' greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere ...That's the world! On which hope sits!"


    Now show me where is the part where Obama says I DONT AGREE WITH THIS.

    There is a clear difference between using a qoute and agreeing with it. and then sometimes a qoute is even used to show the disagreement with it (rare that it is). There is no difference between him using it as an example of how he feels and him saying it himself.

    You guys have lost it so mush I will show just how much. Here if I used the qoute "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind." to discribe something I felt was huge, wouldn't I be linked to agreeing with the qoute.

    God you guys are dumb twits.

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    05-26-2010, 08:50 AM #168
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    Yea and tell me how your sales are in Jan. of 2010. Like I and other economist have said before this small turn in the economy will be short and shallow and will turn down again into next year.

    Like I also said you wont hear from the people that decide not to come they just wont. As evidence to more of the lies you tell, just look at the number of views you have on any of your threads you started there are just a few and I have no doubt that at least 2 are yours and then there is "Siriusly Long", and Havasucker that leaves a total of 9 to 12 so that would mean you are getting at least 50% of those readers (you talked about at least 5 that have come to your store). So really with 50 states (yes Obama there are only 50) 50% of those people ether live close enough or paid for a flight to come to your store. OR would you like us to believe in the quintessence that 50% decided to take a vacation in the last few weeks in NC. and near enough to your area. Really is that what you want us to believe. Really thats what you want us to believe.


    P.S. For your information just so you know that 10 to 15 (of views) number includes EVERYONE reguardless if they are a member of the forums or not.
    John, you seem to be a little confused. I said I had people come in my store that had looked at THIS thread. THIS thread that you started with the comment about American Citizens that were born in South America. THIS thread has had over 1600 hits on it. I couldn't buy that kind of advertising on a site like this for any reasonable amount of money. Your boycott has been mentioned on a few other threads on Sirius Buzz also. I think I read comments about it in both of the stock threads. Both of those threads seem to get a lot of hits also.

    I just thought I'd clear that up for you.
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    05-26-2010, 09:01 AM #169
    John, one more thing.

    I thank you again and I'd like to say that I admire you for carrying on this conversation in a pretty civil tone lately.

    We obviously disagree on the topic of the thread. But, it's easier for me to understand your point of view by reading what you have written in the last few days.

    I have a habbit of shutting people out who use what I think of as foul language. And I tend not to completely read statements when they are littered with that sort of talk.

    Like I said before. I know that the election of 2008 didn't go your way. I understand many of your feelings. I don't agree, but I do understand your frustrations and feelings towards the current Administration.

    Chuck

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    05-26-2010, 10:20 AM #170
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    Ha yes and what you forgot to mention is that that started after the big chill when YOUR SAME SCIENTIST were calling it the new ICE AGE.

    Yes it has been getting warmer since then and yes we have also had almost ten years of cooling. Like I said, even your guy Bill Nye does not say it has not gotten cooler since 2000 but that Joe Bastardi's graph did not go back far enough. There is just one other fact you leave out and that is that if it did not start to get warmer from the 70s then we would be in another ICE AGE by now. These are facts you like to leave out Havasucker.

    Here are some more you cant explain: The earth has also been getting warmer since the last "Little Ice Age" (WHICH ENDED IN THE LATE 1700s TO EARLY 1800s) so what was the cause of that warming which was much greater??? Boy there must have been some major industry pollution going on then right.

    Here is the answer you dumbshit: The earth has NORMAL cycles it goes through. We just happen to be in a down swing at the present time EVEN YOUR OWN GUY ADMITS THAT.

    "From Miami to Maine, Savannah to Seattle, America is caught in an icy grip that one of the U.N.'s top global warming proponents says could mark the beginning of a mini ice age."

    Oranges are freezing and millions of tropical fish are dying in Florida, and it could be just the beginning of a decades-long deep freeze, says Professor Mojib Latif, one of the world's leading climate modelers.


    "Latif is a key member of the UN's climate research arm, which has long promoted the concept of global warming. He told the Daily Mail that "a significant share of the warming we saw from 1980 to 2000 and at earlier periods in the 20th Century was due to these cycles -- perhaps as much as 50 percent."

    http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/...cientist-says/

    Notice even he says warming upto 2000 and the article is from Jan. of 2010.
    You have said over and over that it is getting colder. You said that as little as 2 months ago. Just the facts. And now you say "its been getting warmer since then" after i provide overwhelming proof that this will be the warmest year on record.
    You are just completely wrong about the temperature of the last 10 years but you prefer to keep spewing lies. Doesnt matter what i show you, you will dispute it . Hopeless. You are going to look like a fool in the years ahead mark my word just like you will with your comments that hybrids and electrics will never be technologically and economically viable It has not been getting colder the last ten years. Its been getting warmer. And when i show you scientific studies that show that you simply choose to disbelieve the science.

    So ONE more time here is some science which John the science expert and hybrid expert and Palin expert and Obama the radical Communist expert will choose to ignore. Allergic to facts.

    http://www.livescience.com/environme...de-100123.html

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