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    12-20-2009, 07:17 PM #51
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    I've said my piece.i am sorry for butting into your discussion with john.good luck and have a nice christmas and i hope a happy new year.
    Hey Boat, you are always welcome to partake in these discussions. We get very lively here from time to time. And it's good to have someone who agrees with John every now and then.

    It's very good to see you here. If you have any interest in SIRI as an investment or any other stocks, we have a couple of pretty good boards to discuss those here too.

    Welcome aboard!

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    12-20-2009, 07:36 PM #52
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    You are right John, you'll never see the link that you're looking for. That's because you're the only person I have read here that speaks so poorly of the Commander of the United States Armed Forces. You are the only traitor that I've read here. So, you'll never see the link that you're looking for from me.

    Had I read anyone saying that President Bush was a horse's ass while he was President, I would have given them the same treatment that I'm giving you.

    You remind me of Cyndi Sheehan. She didn't get it either. It is fine to disagee respectfully with the duly elected President of Our Country. But, it's just wrong to be as disrespectful as you are. Just wrong John.

    If you want people to listen to you. You need to use a different approach. You need to respect Our Country. Then, maybe more people would listen to your opinions.


    Simple logic, you had to have heard or read the comments about Bush they were everywhere and I mean EVERYWHERE. So is what you are telling me is that this is the only place you goto. Most articles have places to leave comments. It is only common sense if this is the way you feel about ALL presidents, then after reading any of those articles you would have taken the time to leave a comment. Obama and most of his party had made them yet you did not even bother to vote (you said that yourself). If you felt as strong about this issue as you say, then the least you could have done is vote against a man that has said that and worse about our president at the time, RIGHT, or is that making to much sense for you.


    Now you see why people laugh at you candleman, no you most likely still dont.

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    12-20-2009, 08:05 PM #53
    Quote Originally Posted by candleman View Post
    Hey Boat, you are always welcome to partake in these discussions. We get very lively here from time to time. And it's good to have someone who agrees with John every now and then.

    It's very good to see you here. If you have any interest in SIRI as an investment or any other stocks, we have a couple of pretty good boards to discuss those here too.

    Welcome aboard!
    Hey Boat dont let him fool you there are more then he will ever know. They like to forget about people like: Stang302, JohnnyIrish, Dread, relmor, Sirius Road Kill, cos1000, killerkaul, ect., ect., the list gos on and on. You and I both know that is why the left will never get what is going on with the town halls and the tea party rallys and the 912 project. They think it is just fake. What they dont understand is that most conservatives are not that active they are generally content to let is slide. That is why when you see this many getting up and doing something, it says to many conservatives, this is not going to go away. liberials dont understand the fact, why they have never seen protests like this from the conservatives before in history. You and I both know thats because we dont in general, most would not want to go to town halls they dont want to take the time, that is what liberials do. So that is why I told people like Havasucker several months ago that in 2010 you are not only going to see the congress switch hands but many will run on a very conservative platform. The reason is simple most people dont want to be bothered to have to go to town halls or rallys at the White House, they only want to mess with polotics when they vote. They dont want to be afraid that the government is not listening to them and is going to "fundamentally transform America" (Obamas words) into something they dont recognize anymore. Most think America has been and is a great country and done much, much, much, more good for the world then bad, and that it does not need to be "fundamentally transform".



    P.S. They think it is all just right wingers, they have (as you seen here) no clue what is going on.
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    12-20-2009, 08:12 PM #54
    THANK YOU FOR THE INVITE CHUCK-(CANDLEMAN). YES I AM A SIRIUS INVESTOR SINCE 2003. I HAVE A FAIRLY LARGE HOLDING ,SO I BOUNCE AROUND ALOT TO SAY ON TOP OF THINGS. I LOOK FORWARD TO SPEAKING TO GUYS AGAIN.BOB.

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    12-21-2009, 10:54 AM #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Boat View Post
    THANK YOU FOR THE INVITE CHUCK-(CANDLEMAN). YES I AM A SIRIUS INVESTOR SINCE 2003. I HAVE A FAIRLY LARGE HOLDING ,SO I BOUNCE AROUND ALOT TO SAY ON TOP OF THINGS. I LOOK FORWARD TO SPEAKING TO GUYS AGAIN.BOB.
    Good Morning Bob. It's the investing side of this site that I'm here for. I just read John's posts from time to time and try to engage him when he slanders our country. But, other than that, I'm here for the stocks. I look forward to discussing those things with you in the other forums.

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    12-21-2009, 11:36 AM #56
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    Simple logic, you had to have heard or read the comments about Bush they were everywhere and I mean EVERYWHERE. So is what you are telling me is that this is the only place you goto. Most articles have places to leave comments. It is only common sense if this is the way you feel about ALL presidents, then after reading any of those articles you would have taken the time to leave a comment. Obama and most of his party had made them yet you did not even bother to vote (you said that yourself). If you felt as strong about this issue as you say, then the least you could have done is vote against a man that has said that and worse about our president at the time, RIGHT, or is that making to much sense for you.


    Now you see why people laugh at you candleman, no you most likely still dont.
    John, you need to reread this thread again, so you can get your facts right. I said I didn't vote for President Obama. I didn't say I didn't vote.
    I do have to admit that I do make typing errors from time to time. And I even make mistakes sometimes. So, if sometime, I wrote that I didn't vote. I wrote the wrong thing.
    Voting is as American as apple pie so to speak. We all should be voting. That's what makes this great system work so well. I wish more of us voted, I just don't know how to get us there.
    But, this still doesn't have anything to do with the way that you are treating the sitting President of this great country of ours. You imply that you do it because of what some people did to President Bush. John, two wrongs will never make a right. So, if you don't want people to speak poorly of our next President, then you'll need to set the example by treating the current President with respect. It's simple John, it's respect for the office of the President, that's where you're wrong John. You don't respect the office. And that's why it's hard to have any respect for you John.

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    12-21-2009, 02:50 PM #57
    Quote Originally Posted by candleman View Post
    John, you need to reread this thread again, so you can get your facts right. I said I didn't vote for President Obama. I didn't say I didn't vote.
    I do have to admit that I do make typing errors from time to time. And I even make mistakes sometimes. So, if sometime, I wrote that I didn't vote. I wrote the wrong thing.
    Voting is as American as apple pie so to speak. We all should be voting. That's what makes this great system work so well. I wish more of us voted, I just don't know how to get us there.
    But, this still doesn't have anything to do with the way that you are treating the sitting President of this great country of ours. You imply that you do it because of what some people did to President Bush. John, two wrongs will never make a right. So, if you don't want people to speak poorly of our next President, then you'll need to set the example by treating the current President with respect. It's simple John, it's respect for the office of the President, that's where you're wrong John. You don't respect the office. And that's why it's hard to have any respect for you John.


    Your lucky you added that second part because:

    I was never even talking about this thread in the first place. You had said that in a prior thread, you made mention to that before. I was getting ready to call you a lier.


    As for the rest of your dripple, I will just say, I am not playing the normal conservative game anymore because I am sick and tierd of playing nice expecting liberials to do the same. That has not ever worked when dealing with liberials (which makes up most of the democrat party now). You want a few examples: When did Reagan or Bush the elder ever critize Clinton, thats right they never did because it was considered bad edicate. When did Bush the younger blame Clinton for anything besides being left with a recession (which the MSM critized Bush for), thats right never. When has ether Bush critized Obama, thats right never. Now lets compare that to Carter, Clinton, and Obama. ALL attacked Bush, and yes while he was the president during war time.


    So thats right dumbass if you think you are going to make me some how stop attacking a jackass for being a jackass as he destroys this country, then you are mistaken. Listen dumbass, I read Saul D. Alinsky "Rules for Radicals", so I know your intentions here and they wont work on me. I already know that it does not matter to you liberials weather conservatives are nice to Obama or not because that wont change what they try to do to conservatives.


    Also dont try to stand all high and mighty here now because we all know where you stand. You never did answer why when you read ALL those articles or seen the MSM attack Bush why you never bother to make even one comment. Hell for that matter you had one of the biggest offenders of Bush as one of your own senators, Yes thats right John Edwards (democrat senator of ????, thats right your own state), what not one letter to him about the attacks he made on Bush while he was at war. So like I said dumbass, I can bring up example after example where you could have made comments very easy like you do to me to others that did it to Bush, yet as you said not once did you. So you know what candleman you can take you double standard hypocrite ass and shove it because the bullshit wont fly here with me. Like I said I read "Rules for Radicals" So I know just what you are up to and how to turn you crap back on you.



    Hummm still waiting for all those links to all those comments you made to people talking bad about Bush. Now are you still going to try and say that bullshit about not seeing those kinds of things being said about Bush by others. You really think anyone believes that, I dont even think Havasucker (if he can be honest for once in his life) would say that even he believes in that load of crap you are trying to push.



    P.S. Please dont just skip over this part of the post unless you are saying you agree I am correct in what I just said. Did you really think I was going to let you get away without answering this part of the post:

    REPOST: "Simple logic, you had to have heard or read the comments about Bush they were everywhere and I mean EVERYWHERE. So is what you are telling me is that this is the only place you goto. Most articles have places to leave comments. It is only common sense if this is the way you feel about ALL presidents, then after reading any of those articles you would have taken the time to leave a comment."


    Come on dumbass, answer that.
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    12-21-2009, 03:47 PM #58
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    Your lucky you added that second part because:

    I was never even talking about this thread in the first place. You had said that in a prior thread, you made mention to that before. I was getting ready to call you a lier.


    As for the rest of your dripple, I will just say, I am not playing the normal conservative game anymore because I am sick and tierd of playing nice expecting liberials to do the same. That has not ever worked when dealing with liberials (which makes up most of the democrat party now). You want a few examples: When did Reagan or Bush the elder ever critize Clinton, thats right they never did because it was considered bad edicate. When did Bush the younger blame Clinton for anything besides being left with a recession (which the MSM critized Bush for), thats right never. When has ether Bush critized Obama, thats right never. Now lets compare that to Carter, Clinton, and Obama. ALL attacked Bush, and yes while he was the president during war time.


    So thats right dumbass if you think you are going to make me some how stop attacking a jackass for being a jackass as he destroys this country, then you are mistaken. Listen dumbass, I read Saul D. Alinsky "Rules for Radicals", so I know your intentions here and they wont work on me. I already know that it does not matter to you liberials weather conservatives are nice to Obama or not because that wont change what they try to do to conservatives.


    Also dont try to stand all high and mighty here now because we all know where you stand. You never did answer why when you read ALL those articles or seen the MSM attack Bush why you never bother to make even one comment. Hell for that matter you had one of the biggest offenders of Bush as one of your own senators, Yes thats right John Edwards (democrat senator of ????, thats right your own state), what not one letter to him about the attacks he made on Bush while he was at war. So like I said dumbass, I can bring up example after example where you could have made comments very easy like you do to me to others that did it to Bush, yet as you said not once did you. So you know what candleman you can take you double standard hypocrite ass and shove it because the bullshit wont fly here with me. Like I said I read "Rules for Radicals" So I know just what you are up to and how to turn you crap back on you.



    Hummm still waiting for all those links to all those comments you made to people talking bad about Bush. Now are you still going to try and say that bullshit about not seeing those kinds of things being said about Bush by others. You really think anyone believes that, I dont even think Havasucker (if he can be honest for once in his life) would say that even he believes in that load of crap you are trying to push.



    P.S. Please dont just skip over this part of the post unless you are saying you agree I am correct in what I just said. Did you really think I was going to let you get away without answering this part of the post:

    REPOST: "Simple logic, you had to have heard or read the comments about Bush they were everywhere and I mean EVERYWHERE. So is what you are telling me is that this is the only place you goto. Most articles have places to leave comments. It is only common sense if this is the way you feel about ALL presidents, then after reading any of those articles you would have taken the time to leave a comment."


    Come on dumbass, answer that.
    Here is my answer John...if that is even your real name.

    You are a traitor and an anti American. You stink. I can smell you all the way here on the east coast of North Carolina. I'm getting tired of repeating myself. But, people like yourself need to have things repeated I guess.

    Keep attacking Our Country young man. We have always had to put up with people like you, the Cindy Sheehan's of the world. You are one crazy nut.

    Merry Christmas.

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    12-22-2009, 02:15 PM #59
    Quote Originally Posted by candleman View Post
    Here is my answer John...if that is even your real name.

    You are a traitor and an anti American. You stink. I can smell you all the way here on the east coast of North Carolina. I'm getting tired of repeating myself. But, people like yourself need to have things repeated I guess.

    Keep attacking Our Country young man. We have always had to put up with people like you, the Cindy Sheehan's of the world. You are one crazy nut.

    Merry Christmas.

    Listen you, two face, double standard, forked tongue, talking out of both sides of your month, dumbass. Like I side you are never going to make me feel bad about talking about what Obama is (which is a America hating jackass). Your problem is there is so much proof of this you have a problem defending it all, so instead of trying to defend the mountian of proof of Obamas hate for this country you attack me. It is a trick Saul Alinsky tells how to use in "Rules for Radicals". Unfortunately for you, I have read that book to combat people like you so that trick will not work on me.


    Here lets look at the evidence of Obamas hate for America:

    1.) Obama thinks America needs to be "fundamentally transform".

    2.) Obama thinks the United States Constitution is flawed at a basic level, "The Constitution is basically flawed"

    3.) Obama has spent 20, yes thats right 20 YEARS in a church were hateful things are constantly preached about America, Ho you know things like "God dam America".

    4.) Obama calls the man who preached those hateful things about America HIS MENTOR.

    5.) Obamas own wife (Michelle) has said that up to just about the last year and a half that, she was not proud of her country.

    6.) Obama has been on a nonstop "Apologizing for America" tour around the world.

    There are many more but I think you get the point.

    If you dont believe me on any of these things just ask and I will give you the link to any of them. If I do that and you hear Obama in his own words saying those things (or his wife and preacher) then you have to once again say, Boy john you are correct again. Because I am not going to spend the time like I did before getting the link to Obama saying in his own voice "White folks geed, runs a world in need." (from his book on tape, "The Audacity of Hope") for you guys to say it was faked. I mean holy crap if that was so daming to your case of how you felt about Obama then anyone would spend the time/money get the book and find out for yourself, that it is true.



    Now lets look at what you have as your evidence of my hate for America:

    1.) I have been attacking Obama, a man that has done all of the above.

    2.) That I would rather have a man that has this is said about him:

    "The hyperactive French president never hid his love for America. In 2004, he said he was proud to be called “Sarkozy, the American” by some in France."

    and gave this speech:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlt2GE4EYo4

    be President of the United States, then Obama.



    You see unlike Cindy Sheehan (your hero) I dont say things that are not true. Like when she said, Bush had no right to goto war with Iraq. For most that are not awear the treaty Iraq signed after the first gulf war gave us the right to goto war. Yes thats right that alone gave us the right.

    P.S. I love how you guys used her for all she was worth when she attacked Bush yet you now throw her under the bus when she attacks Obama.

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    12-22-2009, 03:07 PM #60
    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    Listen you, two face, double standard, forked tongue, talking out of both sides of your month, dumbass. Like I side you are never going to make me feel bad about talking about what Obama is (which is a America hating jackass). Your problem is there is so much proof of this you have a problem defending it all, so instead of trying to defend the mountian of proof of Obamas hate for this country you attack me. It is a trick Saul Alinsky tells how to use in "Rules for Radicals". Unfortunately for you, I have read that book to combat people like you so that trick will not work on me.


    Here lets look at the evidence of Obamas hate for America:

    1.) Obama thinks America needs to be "fundamentally transform".

    2.) Obama thinks the United States Constitution is flawed at a basic level, "The Constitution is basically flawed"

    3.) Obama has spent 20, yes thats right 20 YEARS in a church were hateful things are constantly preached about America, Ho you know things like "God dam America".

    4.) Obama calls the man who preached those hateful things about America HIS MENTOR.

    5.) Obamas own wife (Michelle) has said that up to just about the last year and a half that, she was not proud of her country.

    6.) Obama has been on a nonstop "Apologizing for America" tour around the world.

    There are many more but I think you get the point.

    If you dont believe me on any of these things just ask and I will give you the link to any of them. If I do that and you hear Obama in his own words saying those things (or his wife and preacher) then you have to once again say, Boy john you are correct again. Because I am not going to spend the time like I did before getting the link to Obama saying in his own voice "White folks geed, runs a world in need." (from his book on tape, "The Audacity of Hope") for you guys to say it was faked. I mean holy crap if that was so daming to your case of how you felt about Obama then anyone would spend the time/money get the book and find out for yourself, that it is true.



    Now lets look at what you have as your evidence of my hate for America:

    1.) I have been attacking Obama, a man that has done all of the above.

    2.) That I would rather have a man that has this is said about him:

    "The hyperactive French president never hid his love for America. In 2004, he said he was proud to be called “Sarkozy, the American” by some in France."

    and gave this speech:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlt2GE4EYo4

    be President of the United States, then Obama.



    You see unlike Cindy Sheehan (your hero) I dont say things that are not true. Like when she said, Bush had no right to goto war with Iraq. For most that are not awear the treaty Iraq signed after the first gulf war gave us the right to goto war. Yes thats right that alone gave us the right.

    P.S. I love how you guys used her for all she was worth when she attacked Bush yet you now throw her under the bus when she attacks Obama.
    Hi John, you seem very defensive these days.

    I guess that comes from being wrong. I hear that France is looking for a few good men. That might make you a happier young fellow if you were to be a Frenchman.

    But John, even in France, traitors aren't welcomed. So, I guess we'll just keep you here. After all, we kept Cyndi Sheehan another traitor like yourself.

    Just remember sonny. We are at war. This is not the time to be calling the Commander of our Armed Forces names. It's fine to disagree with him. I disagree with a lot of what he's doing and has said. But only a traitor like yourself would attack Our President like you do at a time of war.

    Veterans of war, like myself, spit on you.

    Have a Merry Christmas John. May this wonderful season begin to soften your heart and bring peace to your soul.

    Chuck

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