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  1. relmor2003 is offline
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    04-06-2009, 11:59 AM #51
    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    relmar, as far as which party principles are correct, I dont agree. Now if we talk about people, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Clinton, and Bush. that is another question. I and most real consevatives did not like when Bush did Medicare and a few other things. The point is the reason we did not like it was it was not what we considered it fitting conservative values of less government less taxes. The government is there to do one main thing protect this county from attack. That the government should get out of the way. We have become to much of a entitlement based country.
    Dont look now John, but you sound like a Ron Paul supporter, as that was his biggest campaign promise(stay out of the way of a capitalistic rebound). I agree that governments only job(federal) was to protect our borders and allow for efficient global trading of products. Government has failed us in both cases. John, you sound like a libertarian(I feel I am more libertarian than anything, If I had to be pigeonholed into applying a word to my economic views.)

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    04-06-2009, 11:59 AM #52
    Relmor,

    Is this a good version of the Bible? I was looking at the Bibles on Amazon - all the different versions are confusing me......

    http://www.amazon.com/Princess-Bible...033301&sr=1-37


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    04-06-2009, 12:13 PM #53
    Quote Originally Posted by relmor2003 View Post
    Dont look now John, but you sound like a Ron Paul supporter, as that was his biggest campaign promise(stay out of the way of a capitalistic rebound).
    Capitalism can only work well in a true free market. Freedom needs to be protected and the markets have not been protected....it's not a true free market now. Hopefully, true freedom will be fought for, won and defended...

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    04-06-2009, 12:15 PM #54
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    John ,agree whole heartedly about Gov. vs Senator,but not comparing Obama to Palin,I'm just commenting on Palin not being prepared for Veep...
    Incidentally the greatest President in the 20th century(in my opinion) was a senator,Harry S. Truman...If we would have had a senator like him the last 10 years the war would have gone a whole lot better...Actually i compare McCain to Truman a little....


    Exactly and if she was not ready to be VP, then Obama was not ready to be VP ether, to say nothing about being ready to be president. You get what I am saying here. For that reason alone he is an embarresment, Now if we are talking 4 or 8 years from now that is a different story.


    I feel like we just got hijacked by Europe. The point being, many elected someone they thought Europe would like.

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    04-06-2009, 12:26 PM #55
    Quote Originally Posted by relmor2003 View Post
    Dont look now John, but you sound like a Ron Paul supporter, as that was his biggest campaign promise(stay out of the way of a capitalistic rebound). I agree that governments only job(federal) was to protect our borders and allow for efficient global trading of products. Government has failed us in both cases. John, you sound like a libertarian(I feel I am more libertarian than anything, If I had to be pigeonholed into applying a word to my economic views.)



    The problem with him is he was to much of a protectionist and an isolationist.



    as a side note; I would like to not have a army as many liberials would. The problem is they dont seem to get the fact the world is not perfect. Countries have people running them that are nuts. They are not set up like the USA. Can you emagine if some other country was in the position we were in after WW II. Going from history, I can guarantee you this world would look much different then it does now and it would not be for the better. The rest of the world should not only be grateful for what the USA did for them after WWII but also for what we did not do and could have very easyly have done.

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    04-06-2009, 12:34 PM #56
    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post

    I feel like we just got hijacked by Europe. The point being, many elected someone they thought Europe would like.
    Maybe it's not so much that they elected someone that they thought Europe would like, but rather they liked what Europe was doing better....

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    04-06-2009, 12:43 PM #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Demian View Post
    Relmor,

    Is this a good version of the Bible? I was looking at the Bibles on Amazon - all the different versions are confusing me......

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    As Gods word must be spread by man, you will get those who seeks its undoing. I only use the King James Version, as do most if not all bible historians. If you know true history, its an easy choice. I can get into bible versions if youd like, but it might bore everyone.

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    04-06-2009, 12:46 PM #58
    John, I agree with much of what you're saying in here. Problem is, what's happening "right now" (in our Country), is BIGGER than so many Americans are even aware of. The "People" the ones' who havn't opened their eyes to what's transpiring right in front of their own eyes (through MASSIVE manipulation)...are the real puppets in all of this.

    Case in point...
    If ya don't read a contract in which you place your lawful signature on..."who's the damn fool when the contract you legally signed, has a "not so nice clause" activate due to a current situation triggering it"? The answer's a no-brainer. So why are we bailing out the stupity of people who didn't read their mortgage contract? Secondly, why aren't we going after the lenders who gave out these mortgages to people who wouldn't even qualify for a $500.00 limit credit card? Why aren't we investigating Freddie and Fannie on Capital Hill? Can you say in-bed w/ the Democratic Party? And why aren't we enraged when Freddie and Fannie are giving out a qtr of a billion dollars in bonuses to their employees? Easy, why piss of Fannie and Freddie when they are contributing healthy six-figure chunks of campaign donations to folks like Obama and Senator Chris Dodd. Could that be why we aren't going after the two organizations who are largely to blame for the mortgage crisis? Another no-brainer.

    Wanna go even further? Why aren't more people enraged that our very own Congress is passing Laws they DON'T EVEN FRACKIN READ? Why isn't the press telling their viewers that ACORN bought and paid for the protesters that where bused to the homes of AIG execs? Why didn't the press cover Obama reading the WRONG speech in it's entirety (on a teleprompter no less) at a White House St Patricks Day Party? He read the Ambassador of Ireland's speech. Can anyone say frackin MORON? And to go a step further...a teleprompter at an informal White House party.
    WOW.

    Where was the debate to print a $TRILLION$ dollars in new money? That's right, out of thin air the treasury decided to add a trillion dollars to our money supply. Of course this was done after China told us to take a fracking hike after Hillary begged them to loan us more money.

    Iv'e only skimmed the surface here folks. One party with a heavily biased media is manipulating the American people and the tragedy is that the one's who are being manipulated...don't even know it. Lastly, the Party which left me, along w/ their own conservative ways, are heavily to blame for allowing so much of what's currently happening.

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    04-06-2009, 12:51 PM #59
    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    The problem with him is he was to much of a protectionist and an isolationist.



    as a side note; I would like to not have a army as many liberials would. The problem is they dont seem to get the fact the world is not perfect. Countries have people running them that are nuts. They are not set up like the USA. Can you emagine if some other country was in the position we were in after WW II. Going from history, I can guarantee you this world would look much different then it does now and it would not be for the better. The rest of the world should not only be grateful for what the USA did for them after WWII but also for what we did not do and could have very easyly have done.
    I disagree countries should be greatful. These is clear evidence we funded the nazis in the first place. How did Germany solve their currency problems? Thats right, massive amount of western money loans. Even after Hitler took power. So we caused the problem, then became the solution. Yes, the world should be very greatful.

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    04-06-2009, 12:53 PM #60
    Making a joke about retarded people isn't funny, it's disgusting and it shows someone's real character. Like the Clinton administration fighting for women's rights , against sexual harassment etc., at the same time Bill enjoyed .......
    we all know what.

    Quote Originally Posted by trippingthespeculatingpos View Post
    no. he made a joke about himself bowling like a retarded person, retarded people bowl like retarded people. Othwerwise they would not be retarded. Its like being mad for calling a dog a dog. If he would of said handicapped it would not of been funny.

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