The coward deleted his posts at Yahoo. Apparently he is not aware of the archiving over there. It can be pulled up by them at anytime for any law enforcement agency.Originally Posted by Brandon Matthews
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The coward deleted his posts at Yahoo. Apparently he is not aware of the archiving over there. It can be pulled up by them at anytime for any law enforcement agency.
Easy there Brandon, I wouldn't provide this "alleged" psycho with anything. Not for fear of being sued but no telling what he might be capable of. A lawsuit would be the least of my worries when dealing with someone that is possibly mentally unstable.
jmm232, just to clear the air he never said that they never existed. he has maintained that they always have (with a firmware update) and it was the companies that kept them off the market because they both wanted the merger and could not do it (or SIRI could have got XMSR for alot less) if there was a interoperable radio out.
Now that that has been cleared up it boggles my mind how after almost 9 months after the merger, there still is not one out on the market. If what Hartlieb said was true, there would have been one out day one after the merger. How he can hold so many people under some kind of spell, that they stick with him. He has been proven wrong at every turn. He takes everything and trys to connect SIRIXM to it. My god I wish I could slap some people out of it. I mean come on, now it is because the accounting firm is being sued for wrong doing on Century that some how gets connected to SIRIXM because they used that same accounting firm. Well what about all the rest of their clients are they also cooking the books for them also. Why was Century the only company.
Let me please elaborate on MH. First I am not saying I agree or disagree with MH. I have spoken with him as well as researched myself on the topics he has discussed. Although, somethings cannot be researched(ie: plan to take private). With that said, I am shocked that people on this board and others are OK with the fact that wallstreet and others do things that are illegal and just want to chalk it up to part of the game. If I am understanding that mentality correctly, that is what has led america to where it is today. NO ONE wants to fight for what is right. They would prefer to make money.
If even 1/2 of what he said is true, people need to be held responsible. I do have to say that I think he could get more credibility if he would approach it all with a bit more softness. i do not think calling calderone at home and mentioning supeonas is a wise move. I do think that people with "inside" info have shared their desire to help. Also, everyone must keep in mind that everyone does have some common ground with MH. He too would like to hold the manipulation and naked short sellers responsible.
Someone like MH goes against the grain,and even if he is right(but using the wrong methods) he will still get shot at. Time will answer who is telling the truth. At this point and time EVERYONE is just voicing their opinions.
You obviously are new to this board. If you want people to care what you type, you shouldnt type this(JMVHO, take it for what it is, of course you can type anything you would like). Im actually not aware of ANYONE on this forum who is "ok" with the manipulation, short selling, or some of SiriusXM's own actions. I think you can find everyone here has had a problem about how SiriusXM has treated its stockholder. But no one is sueing them for it. Just sell your stock and go away, or average down, and make your money back like our angle here on this thread advocates. Drill the MM's, the media, but leave the company alone. They have enough problems, without people sueing them for being a "typical evil run company". Want to own stock in a "moral" company? Good luck finding one, and when you do let me know. Doing things illegal or fraudulant is as american as apple pie. Do I complain about it? Sure. I point it out as well. Bitch and moan sometimes. But I dont call up my lawyer and hurt my shares anymore(I take the side that sueing a company for illegal or fraudelant acts against a stockholder would short term hurt yourself, with little of no hope of winning(after spending a lot of money). MH goes about it his way(hes an idiot), and we will go about it another way. See who makes their money back first. MH, or me. Ill bet I do, and I spend zero dollars on lawyer fees.
With that said, I am shocked that people on this board and others are OK with the fact that wallstreet and others do things that are illegal and just want to chalk it up to part of the game.
Maybe I ( or you ) have missed something here . There has been plenty of discussion on this board pertaining to sending letters, contacting the media outlets and complaints by phone about the illegal activities that occur with this stock . I don't see where anyone has just sat back and said it was OK . What else do you propose we do ?
The problem is he has been proven to be wrong on EVERYTHING except that there was a professional plaintiff in the lawsuit against SIRI. The problem is he took that and then said it was not just the law firm involved in doing what it and the plaintiff have done to many other companies (Which was sue them inwhich the only thing that was gotten was a huge legal bill from the plaintiffs law firm, that the company had to pay.) that SIRI was also involved to keep anyone else from suing them over the interoperable radio/merger issue. Now while that would have happen (IF YOU SIGNED ON TO THE CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT) he has no proof that SIRI was not doing anything different then the rest of the companies that were sued by this law firm did which was to settle due to cost if taking it to court.
BTR - good on you for pointing this out -With that said, I am shocked that people on this board and others are OK with the fact that wallstreet and others do things that are illegal and just want to chalk it up to part of the game.
Skier - not sure how much you have monitored this site - it seems you have missed the past 3 weeks at a minimum. If you are upset with the manipulation - then fine - I applaude your effort - just be careful about pointing fingers - many of us have written / called / done everything humanly possible short of a grassy knoll scenario in order to fight the corruption and manipulation. The issue I have with MH is that he's a raving lunatic stalker who is out for nothing but his own personal ego driven agenda. He's our own version of the paparazzi. Although I think they are more intelligent. If the NAB isn't sticking money in his pocket I'll eat my hat.
I personally have written more letters to the SEC than I can count now - and have even configured them with a macro to automatically resend from my mailbox daily to SEC Chairwoman's email address. I will continue sending letters until I have breathed out my last gasp of air.
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Ditto! I have been sending emails every single day now for over 3 weeks. I don't care who is pissed at the SEC or ISEG...I want my pound of flesh, and I want my stock back in the black! The ignorance of the problems that we are fighting here by the Hartliebers only underscores what a problem he and his followers are. They do not even know what they are fighting anymore...and they want to come here and tell us we don't know what we are doing! I have my suspicions on who Hartlieb is in bed with and what his agenda is...and I will leave it at that. All he is doing is the same exact crap that the MSM was doping with the Ergen/BK story...and we know that hurt all of us in the short term....even when we started playing with the shorters at their own game. Yeah I bought more stock at BK price....but it hurt my core position even more and forced me to invest here even more to avoid the continued losses I was seeing based on my original investment and a bunch of scumbag hedgies naked short selling the hell out of SIRI! I am over invested inthi stock as are many...but we were forced to do it due to the circumstances surrounding the stock..and that is what is really pissing me off...some FAT cat asshole shorting and manipulating the hell out of SIR right to this very day and he continues to get away with it...maybe he has changed the plays he is calling.....but he is still conjtrolling the bid and ask at will!
Yes I am new. I am going to try and respond to several post at one time.
again, I am not defending Hartlieb, but I do believe that wallstreet and all the people involved in criminal activity know that they will not be confronted for their actions because the cost are too high for any single person to hire a lawyer and go after them. Based on our recent history, the government and/or its agencies(SEC) are not going to protect us either. I do appreciate everyones effort that have written letters and e-mails, but based on my experience, it takes a organized campaign from a relentless group to deal with the criminals or the government. Again I stress a organized group. They will only help the little guy once they have gotten egg on their face and have no choice. Again, this is based on a real life experience, investing two years fighting major local government. In the end we won, but it would not have happened if each person fought individually.
I do believe all/most companies cross the legal lines. However, to change to the situation, the companies have to be changed one at a time. Unfortunatly, not many people want to "invest" their money into that challenge. It is a investment, because you could win or lose. Yes, it is possible to win, it requires the right game plan.
I have averaged down huge on this stock and believe it will pay off. I would like to take some of those monies and fight the big boys. David and Goliath can happen again.
I can say that I have spoken with one of the top law firms in the country that are interested in going after the big boys behind the manipulation and short selling on this stock. They are also willing to do it on a contingency with a small cost to each plaintiff group versus what it would normally cost a person themselves.
Based on what i have read here today, I do not get the feeling that many people would spend a small sum to get back what was stolen from them by the manipulators and naked shorts. I will not post the details of the huge investment the law firm would absorb to begin the fight here, but they are very interested.
In closing, I do appreciate all the feedback. I do think it is unfortunate all shareholders have had to go through this, when it did not need to happen.
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