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  1. SiriusHope is offline
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    03-30-2009, 06:15 PM #271
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    03-30-2009, 06:21 PM #272
    One article said 5 Bil long term debt. It was for the most part a positive, except the exaggerated debt!

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    03-30-2009, 06:27 PM #273
    Quote Originally Posted by lloyd Handwerker View Post
    Bush's whole economic emphasis was tax cuts for the rich which will trickle down to everyone else. How did that work out? LOL.
    So some people want to repeat that experiment. Brilliant!
    How Many Jobs have you gotten from a poor person? My guess is 0. Increase taxes on the rich and they will respond buy raising their prices of their goods and lowering the number one controllable expense they have; PAYROLL. Ive been a business Manager for long enough to know that when times are tough, the first response is to cut employees hours across the board, minus salaried employees or course. You want Uncle Sam to take more from me, go ahead. But you better know that Im cutting hours from the very people your trying to help.

    How many people are employed from one yacht? The dock workers. The captain. The school the captain went to. The teachers that teach there. The guy who cleans the floors, in the school, which teaches the captains how to drive the boat. How about the people that make the boat? Where did they learn that? All the parts that go into a yacht? Its endless. Except if we take away the demand for the yacht. Then it ends pretty quick.

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    03-30-2009, 06:29 PM #274
    Quote Originally Posted by killerkaul View Post
    The prius is a "feel good" car for the masses, {notice I did not tell you a party}, that believe they are punishing big oil. Your "Green Movement" people will pay several thousand more for that type of car. Mileage is so so............... to ok.... compared to gasoline comparables. Resale is GARBAGE............ BECAUSE ABOUT THE TIME YOU WISH TO TRADE UP, ALL POSSIBLE BUYERS REALIZE THE SEVERAL THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO REPLACE THE WORN OUT BATTERY BANKS....................... and they will not pay anything for the used cars. Electrical demand will go way up ............ your electrical bills will go way up. How much in $$$$ to get rid of spent batteries? What a deal !!!!!!!!!! LAUGHABLE. Nat gas vehicle would be the logical transitional vehicle, from a cost savings basis, HOWEVER, Big Oil haters will not consider it. And so......................... we deserve every bit of pain coming our way. Throw emotion to the side, use common sense and the facts at hand and............................. THINK for a change.

    "Mileage is so so" Check out the new reviews of the Prius 2010. They get 50 mpg and with a certain pedal technique get as much as 68 or more to the gallon. I would say thats pretty good.
    I am not going to go point by point with you because its really a waste of energy. All i can say is when you look back at this discussion 5 to 10 years from now, when hybrids and particular plug in hybrids have become much more common on the road you will I believe have to acknowledge you
    were incorrect in your assesments. I would love to make you a bet on the future of the auto industry being hybrid and plug ins.

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    03-30-2009, 06:37 PM #275
    Quote Originally Posted by Lithium24 View Post
    How Many Jobs have you gotten from a poor person? My guess is 0. Increase taxes on the rich and they will respond buy raising their prices of their goods and lowering the number one controllable expense they have; PAYROLL. Ive been a business Manager for long enough to know that when times are tough, the first response is to cut employees hours across the board, minus salaried employees or course. You want Uncle Sam to take more from me, go ahead. But you better know that Im cutting hours from the very people your trying to help.

    How many people are employed from one yacht? The dock workers. The captain. The school the captain went to. The teachers that teach there. The guy who cleans the floors, in the school, which teaches the captains how to drive the boat. How about the people that make the boat? Where did they learn that? All the parts that go into a yacht? Its endless. Except if we take away the demand for the yacht. Then it ends pretty quick.
    Well we are about to find out if you are right because quess what. Tax rates are going up from 35 to 39% on upper income tax brackets. Just like they
    were under Clinton when the economy was pretty good.
    So you would argue the economy will be worse 2 years from this July ( In about 3 months when unemployment is about 9% or more)?

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    03-30-2009, 06:45 PM #276
    Quote Originally Posted by killerkaul View Post
    The prius is a "feel good" car for the masses
    Killer, you may enjoy this:

    http://machinedesign.com/article/sav...-a-hummer-0510

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    03-30-2009, 06:51 PM #277
    Quote Originally Posted by lloyd Handwerker View Post
    Well we are about to find out if you are right because quess what. Tax rates are going up from 35 to 39% on upper income tax brackets. Just like they
    were under Clinton when the economy was pretty good.
    So you would argue the economy will be worse 2 years from this July ( In about 3 months when unemployment is about 9% or more)?
    Raising taxes doesnt help the economy. Period.

    Im sorry I responded to you, its really a pointless endeavor. Enjoy your bliss.

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    03-30-2009, 06:53 PM #278
    Quote Originally Posted by bananaz View Post
    I quess that's why GM is trying to unload Hummer. No sales. LOL.

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    03-30-2009, 06:54 PM #279
    Quote Originally Posted by bananaz View Post
    Who can we truly believe...both sides of the coin seem to be pumping product sales.

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    03-30-2009, 06:59 PM #280
    Quote Originally Posted by Lithium24 View Post
    Raising taxes doesnt help the economy. Period.

    Im sorry I responded to you, its really a pointless endeavor. Enjoy your bliss.
    It is pointless talking to someone who has such a diametrically opposed point of view.

    But I did ask you a question. After Obama increases the deficit, raises taxes and does whatever evil deeds he is planning WILL THE ECONOMY BE BETTER
    2 years from this JULY? I would think this would be an easy question to answer since you seem convinced that Mr. Socialist is destroying the economy and the
    country.

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