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  1. SiriuslyLong is offline
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    04-23-2012, 04:50 PM #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    Illinois's unemployment rate started at a high between 11
    to 12%. You do have to put it in perspective no?

    Wisconsin started at a high 9%.


    If you look at the graphs they show the same pattern of drop pretty much.


    As i said, be careful with statistics. And do show all the FACTS.
    So what is the % decrease for each state? Can you calculate it?

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    04-23-2012, 05:01 PM #32
    Shouldn't have brought it up lol.

    "The last time the rate was at 8.8 percent was February 2009." - so basically, there has been no reduction of unemployment in IL since February 2009.

    http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/bu...-in-march.html

    On the other hand, in March 2009, WI unemployment rate was 9.4% and today it is 6.8% for a decrease of 14.7%.

    Would you like to add something to these facts? Wanna get political? Damn that right wing extremist is doing a fine job in Wisconsin lol.

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    04-23-2012, 05:03 PM #33
    I love how this guy uses one way of describing whats happened to Illinois and a completely
    different way to describe whats happened to Wisconsin. HILARIOUS.

    A drop in Illinois from 12.3 to 8.8 (?) is quite significant.

    Was it really 9.4? Doesnt look that high in the graph I was looking at, but i quess i will have to take your word.

    http://www.google.com/publicdata/exp...l=en&ind=false

    What i can tell you is that Illinois unemployment rate came down about 3 and 1/3 points (12.3 to 9 approximately) Wisconsin closer to 2 and 1/2 points (from 9.4 to 7 approximately). You can figure out %'s if you want.

    The point is that its easy to distort statistics. Its complicated to understand all the reasons for a particular state's rates. One should therefore arrive at an understanding that taunting another state can lead to egg on ones face.

    And im still left with the curiousity over why Wisconsin was the ONLY state that lost jobs in 2011. and the one the Phil. fed said would be LAST in future growth. Maybe you have the answer?
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    04-23-2012, 05:13 PM #34
    Had to adjust some figures based on what i read. High for illinois 12.3 and high for Wisconsin 9.4.
    Is that correct?

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    04-23-2012, 05:24 PM #35
    Why was Wisconsin the ONLY state that lost jobs in 2011 and why is the Fed predicting above average growth for Illinois and placing Wisconsin LAST IN ITS FORECAST. Interesting no?

    Taunting other states can come back to bite you.


    "In reality, turns out that Wisconsin was the only state in the entire country to lose jobs in 2011, while Illinois had better than average growth. The Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia also predicted strong economic growth in Illinois, while placing Wisconsin last in its forecast:"

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    04-23-2012, 06:07 PM #36
    Any answers about why Wisconsin is forecast to do so badly?

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    04-23-2012, 07:55 PM #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    Had to adjust some figures based on what i read. High for illinois 12.3 and high for Wisconsin 9.4.
    Is that correct?
    Don't compare "highs" compare time periods. IL had 0.00% reduction from Feb 2009 to March 2011. WI had a 14.7% decrease during the same period. Don't convolute the facts (however convenient).

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    04-23-2012, 10:53 PM #38
    Dont pick time periods simply according to ideology. How far one comes from the height of those figures is educational. There are lots of reasons that none of us probably know that Illinois's
    unemployment rate went higher and has been comparatively higher for many years.

    From Feb. 2010 to April 2012. (Illinois went from 12.3 to 8.8, Wisconsin went from 9.4 to 6.9)
    Are those figures correct? I prefer to see how far both have come form the height of the recession. The improvement comparison is interesting.


    And we all know you dont like to answer questions that dont jibe with your ideological delusions, but for gods sake answer something for a change. lol

    For the umpteenth time:
    Why was Wisconsin the ONLY state that lost jobs in 2011 and why is the Fed predicting above average growth for Illinois and placing Wisconsin LAST IN ITS FORECAST for future growth. Interesting, no?
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    04-24-2012, 09:53 AM #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    Dont pick time periods simply according to ideology. How far one comes from the height of those figures is educational. There are lots of reasons that none of us probably know that Illinois's
    unemployment rate went higher and has been comparatively higher for many years.

    From Feb. 2010 to April 2012. (Illinois went from 12.3 to 8.8, Wisconsin went from 9.4 to 6.9)
    Are those figures correct? I prefer to see how far both have come form the height of the recession. The improvement comparison is interesting.


    And we all know you dont like to answer questions that dont jibe with your ideological delusions, but for gods sake answer something for a change. lol

    For the umpteenth time:
    Why was Wisconsin the ONLY state that lost jobs in 2011 and why is the Fed predicting above average growth for Illinois and placing Wisconsin LAST IN ITS FORECAST for future growth. Interesting, no?
    Yes, you can pick any time period you would like. I picked Feb / Mar 2009 because that was the peak (at least that's my experience in the real world - when we let go of people, took a pay decrease and went to 4 days of production....).

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    04-24-2012, 12:13 PM #40
    Still havent offered any thoughts on why Wisconsin was the only state to lose jobs in 2011 and why the phil. fed is forecasting Wisconsin to be lowest in future growth.

    Why am I surprised he refuses to answer. Typical

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