Oil leaks into the ocean!!!! stop all the drilling.

[john]

Sorry if most states dont want oil drilliing close to their shores. You're for states rights except when you dont want it. Shame, shame. LMFAO
No excuse for the mistakes and shortcuts BP made in this disaster and for the corruption and incompetence in the oil industry. Taking responsiblility is a central Conservative tenet. Its funny that you want to excuse them because i dont think even they would go as far as you do. You ought to be in public relations.
I know you're a guy who doesnt like scientists and science very much so its understandable that you will only believe what your personal biases tell you to believe.

This is the WORST oil spill ever in the U.S. i just listened to an expert scientist say that it doesnt matter how many booms were in place to try to stop the oil from hitting land, they would NEVER be able to stop the oil coming ashore. But of course you know more. LOL.
Just you like that you know the Earth is getting cooler.

You must have missed this poll out

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/05/1...#ixzz0p9rpSpyy

Have you seen the poll from Alaska they are overwhelmingly in favor of it. Yet the federal government wont let them.

You dumb twits what do you think will happen if gas hit 10 dollars a gallon.

[Havakasha]

John here is a little bit of information that maybe you dont get if you only watch Fox.



Gulf Oil Spill: Scientists Discover Massive New Sea Oil Plume
MATTHEW BROWN AND JASON DEAREN | 05/27/10 12:57 PM |

NEW ORLEANS — Marine scientists have discovered a massive new plume of what they believe to be oil deep beneath the Gulf of Mexico, stretching 22 miles from the leaking wellhead northeast toward Mobile Bay, Alabama.

The discovery by researchers on the University of South Florida College of Marine Science's Weatherbird II vessel is the second significant undersea plume recorded since the Deepwater Horizon exploded on April 20.

The thick plume was detected just beneath the surface down to about 3,300 feet, and is more than 6 miles wide, said David Hollander, associate professor of chemical oceanography at the school.

Hollander said the team detected the thickest amount of hydrocarbons, likely from the oil spewing from the blown out well, at about 1,300 feet in the same spot on two separate days this week.

The discovery was important, he said, because it confirmed that the substance found in the water was not naturally occurring and that the plume was at its highest concentration in deeper waters. The researchers will use further testing to determine whether the hydrocarbons they found are the result of dispersants or the emulsification of oil as it traveled away from the well.

The first such plume detected by scientists stretched from the well southwest toward the open sea, but this new undersea oil cloud is headed miles inland into shallower waters where many fish and other species reproduce.

The researchers say they are worried these undersea plumes may are the result of the unprecedented use of chemical dispersants to break up the oil a mile undersea at the site of the leak.

Hollander said the oil they detected has dissolved into the water, and is no longer visible, leading to fears from researchers that the toxicity from the oil and dispersants could pose a big danger to fish larvae and filter feeders such as sperm whales.

"There are two elements to it," Hollander said. "The plume reaching waters on the continental shelf could have a toxic effect on fish larvae, and we also may see a long term response as it cascades up the food web."


P.S. i have never used spell check in my ENTIRE life. Wouldnt even know where to find it. I just accept personal responsibility and look things up and try to make sure what i say is accurate even when it comes to spelling. Sorry but good try.

John you did read this? You cant escape anymore than you can escape your ignorant statements about hybrids and electric autos. It will always follow you around. Stop running buddy. Its like a bird thats coated in oil. Trapped.

[john]

John forgot to mention that the Bush administration stacked the regulatory system with personnel who were predisposed to the oil industry. Remember the secret meetings that Cheney of Halliburton (the same company that may be responsible for causing this spill) had with the oil big wigs? Oh you conveniently forgot huh? I quess you were hiding in your cave listening to Fox when all that was going on huh? lol.

Ho no those are Obamas people that gave BP a award for safty, really how long do you think you can blame Bush for everything and expect to get away with it.

Yes I know you libs like the conspiracy therories. Yes Hows that War with Iraq because Bush and Chaney wanted the oil for themselves going for you.

[Havakasha]

John here is a little bit of information that maybe you dont get if you only watch Fox.



Gulf Oil Spill: Scientists Discover Massive New Sea Oil Plume
MATTHEW BROWN AND JASON DEAREN | 05/27/10 12:57 PM |

NEW ORLEANS — Marine scientists have discovered a massive new plume of what they believe to be oil deep beneath the Gulf of Mexico, stretching 22 miles from the leaking wellhead northeast toward Mobile Bay, Alabama.

The discovery by researchers on the University of South Florida College of Marine Science's Weatherbird II vessel is the second significant undersea plume recorded since the Deepwater Horizon exploded on April 20.

The thick plume was detected just beneath the surface down to about 3,300 feet, and is more than 6 miles wide, said David Hollander, associate professor of chemical oceanography at the school.

Hollander said the team detected the thickest amount of hydrocarbons, likely from the oil spewing from the blown out well, at about 1,300 feet in the same spot on two separate days this week.

The discovery was important, he said, because it confirmed that the substance found in the water was not naturally occurring and that the plume was at its highest concentration in deeper waters. The researchers will use further testing to determine whether the hydrocarbons they found are the result of dispersants or the emulsification of oil as it traveled away from the well.

The first such plume detected by scientists stretched from the well southwest toward the open sea, but this new undersea oil cloud is headed miles inland into shallower waters where many fish and other species reproduce.

The researchers say they are worried these undersea plumes may are the result of the unprecedented use of chemical dispersants to break up the oil a mile undersea at the site of the leak.

Hollander said the oil they detected has dissolved into the water, and is no longer visible, leading to fears from researchers that the toxicity from the oil and dispersants could pose a big danger to fish larvae and filter feeders such as sperm whales.

"There are two elements to it," Hollander said. "The plume reaching waters on the continental shelf could have a toxic effect on fish larvae, and we also may see a long term response as it cascades up the food web."


P.S. i have never used spell check in my ENTIRE life. Wouldnt even know where to find it. I just accept personal responsibility and look things up and try to make sure what i say is accurate even when it comes to spelling. Sorry but good try.

Let me quess john. You are ignoring this science huh? Lol. You cant escape john.

[john]

Its just a basic fact that we cant drill our way out of the energy dilemna we are in.Certainly we need domestic oil production but we are running out of the more easily extractable oil and have had to go to more expensive and dangerous exploration. A smart person understands we have to diversify our energy sources over the next 20 years or more. No other way to go. Just like a balanced portfolio in the stock market. Common sense.

God you're easy. LOL.

P.S. Sorry you are not up on some of the new technologies in use today to replace some of the old oil based products. Just off the top of my head i can think of quite of few of the products you have on your list which are being made with new materials. For a guy who claims he keeps up with the latest info you most certainly have been sitting in a cave and listening to Fox news too much. Get out in the world a little and see whats going on out there. Its an exciting time in the world and hybrids and electric cars are even being made by American companies. LMFAO.

Listen dumbass thats because we have never tried. Just look at what you libs have already done!!!! You force oil companies to go 10 miles out when there are much bigger reverves much closer and much more shallow waters yet then you want to claim we are running out. We are only running out because idiots like yourself are STOPPING them from GETTING it.


Here because you are a twit let me give you a simple example even you should be able to get:

If I said to my wife I cant get that because I dont have anymore money. THAT WOULD BE A LIE. Just because I may not have money on me does not mean I could not get more from the bank if I wanted to.

Me putting restrictions on myself does not mean cant get it if I wanted.

[Havakasha]

John/English dictionary

New word.

John:Safty
English:Safety

[Havakasha]

John here is a little bit of information that maybe you dont get if you only watch Fox.



Gulf Oil Spill: Scientists Discover Massive New Sea Oil Plume
MATTHEW BROWN AND JASON DEAREN | 05/27/10 12:57 PM |

NEW ORLEANS — Marine scientists have discovered a massive new plume of what they believe to be oil deep beneath the Gulf of Mexico, stretching 22 miles from the leaking wellhead northeast toward Mobile Bay, Alabama.

The discovery by researchers on the University of South Florida College of Marine Science's Weatherbird II vessel is the second significant undersea plume recorded since the Deepwater Horizon exploded on April 20.

The thick plume was detected just beneath the surface down to about 3,300 feet, and is more than 6 miles wide, said David Hollander, associate professor of chemical oceanography at the school.

Hollander said the team detected the thickest amount of hydrocarbons, likely from the oil spewing from the blown out well, at about 1,300 feet in the same spot on two separate days this week.

The discovery was important, he said, because it confirmed that the substance found in the water was not naturally occurring and that the plume was at its highest concentration in deeper waters. The researchers will use further testing to determine whether the hydrocarbons they found are the result of dispersants or the emulsification of oil as it traveled away from the well.

The first such plume detected by scientists stretched from the well southwest toward the open sea, but this new undersea oil cloud is headed miles inland into shallower waters where many fish and other species reproduce.

The researchers say they are worried these undersea plumes may are the result of the unprecedented use of chemical dispersants to break up the oil a mile undersea at the site of the leak.

Hollander said the oil they detected has dissolved into the water, and is no longer visible, leading to fears from researchers that the toxicity from the oil and dispersants could pose a big danger to fish larvae and filter feeders such as sperm whales.

"There are two elements to it," Hollander said. "The plume reaching waters on the continental shelf could have a toxic effect on fish larvae, and we also may see a long term response as it cascades up the food web."


P.S. i have never used spell check in my ENTIRE life. Wouldnt even know where to find it. I just accept personal responsibility and look things up and try to make sure what i say is accurate even when it comes to spelling. Sorry but good try.

Sorry John but i aint going to let you off so easy. You said the issue was only about oil hitting land. You're actually quite wrong. So read the above.
Swallow your pride and accept personal responsibility for your mistake.

[Havakasha]

Kind of basic. Not sure why John doesnt get it. A very reasonable plan (like Obama's legislative proposal) would be one that stresses a diversity of energy sources. We import way too much foreign oil and there is not enough domestic oil to make much of a dent in that. We have to first conserve by cutting back on our waste and improve efficiencies of all our appliances etc and move to a higher % of alternative energy systems over the long term. Very common sense and so mainstream. Even a 8 year can understand it.

Its very reasonable. Not sure why you cant wrap your mind around it. Do you own a lot of coal and oil stocks is that why it scares you?. Cant figure it out. Seriously.

[Havakasha]

The big news is not been the leak it is the clean up and stopping it from hitting land something the government could have stopped if it took it seriously from the start.

Now look what has happen since it hit the first sand bars. Even you dumb twits can see the difference.

john you're wrong. The science is against you. Just admit your mistake and we can move on.

Scientists find evidence of large underwater oil spil
By David A. Fahrenthold and Juliet Eilperin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 27, 2010; 2:49 PM
Scientists have found evidence of a large underwater "plume" of oil in the Gulf of Mexico, adding to fears that much of the BP oil spill's impact is hidden beneath the surface.

The scientists, aboard a University of South Florida research vessel, were testing the water in sites east and northeast of the leak's source. The university said they detected traces of dissolved oil as deep as 1,300 feet below the surface.

That test seemed to confirm the fears of some scientists that -- because of the depth of the leak and the heavy use of chemical "dispersants" -- this spill was behaving differently than others. Instead of floating on top of the water, it may be moving beneath it.

That would be troubling because it could mean the oil would slip past coastal defenses such as "containment booms" designed to stop it on the surface. Already, scientists and officials in Lousiana have reported finding thick oil washing ashore despite the presence of floating booms.

It would also be a problem for hidden ecosystems deep under the gulf. There, scientists say, the oil could be absorbed by tiny animals and enter a food chain that builds to large, beloved sport-fish like red snapper. It might also glom on to deep-water coral formations, and cover the small animals that make up each piece of coral.

"It kills them because it prevents them from feeding," said Professor James H. Cowan Jr., of Louisiana State University. "It could essentially starve them to death."

The University of South Florida vessel, the Weatherbird II, used sonar and other devices to sample the water below it. Other scientists have said they have little of the equipment necessary to find oil under the water -- leading to debates about whether the underwater plumes were even there.



This week, Mike Utsler, who helps oversee the spill response off the entire Louisiana coast as BP Houma incident commander, said he's only focused on taking oil off the surface. "We don't know there's oil underwater," he said.

But others had seen worrisome evidence.

Owen Morgan of Amira, a group that specializes in breaking apart spills with oil-eating microbes, found evidence of the oil plume off Venice when his team sampled water 75 feet beneath the service. Morgan -- who said his company is pulling out of Louisiana because of insufficient cooperation from state and federal authorities -- showed a thick, gooey sample consisting of 60 percent crude oil.

"People don't realize how bad it is," Morgan said, dipping a fork in the sample to show the goo that hung in midair without sliding off. "This went on for three miles, of that consistency."

[john]

John you did read this? You cant escape anymore than you can escape your ignorant statements about hybrids and electric autos. It will always follow you around. Stop running buddy. Its like a bird thats coated in oil. Trapped.

and you must have somehow missed this from your buddies at the AP;


"One of their tools, a program the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration uses to predict how oil spills on the surface of water may behave, suggests that more than a third of the oil may already be out of the water.

About 35 percent of a spill the size of the one in the Gulf, consisting of the same light Louisiana crude, released in weather conditions and water temperatures similar to those found in the Gulf now would simply evaporate, according to data that The Associated Press entered into the program.

The model also suggests that virtually all of the benzene — a highly toxic flammable organic chemical compound and one of the chief ingredients in oil — would be stripped off and quickly vaporize.

The model was not designed for deepwater spills like the one at the Macondo well in the Mississippi Canyon now threatening the Gulf Coast. But experts said the analysis might give a close approximation of what is most likely happening where the oil plume is hitting the surface nearly 50 miles south of Louisiana."



http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...wPv9gD9FMHP000


Humm I dont think you missed this but somehow felt it was not worth putting up!!!!! Maybe because it does not go along with your ideology.