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    05-21-2010, 04:55 PM #131
    Quote Originally Posted by SiriuslyLong View Post
    Well, all I can tell you is that in the circles I run in, most everyone rolled their eyes at the choice. In fact, my bosses endorsement of Palin was "she's hot".

    If Obama did chose to run against her, it was a wise move. Easy pickins.
    No he ran against her because he saw her as a threat ( a bigger thread then McCain). Believe me there has been much bigger idiots running as vise president then Palin one only needs to look as far as Biden to see that. Yet no other presidential nominees ever attacked or really mentioned the vise presidential nominees.

    The circle you run in are twits because they let a liberial media make their minds up for them instead of looking at it in a logical manor.

    Here you need to take a look at the facts again.

    Fact: She beat Biden in their debate (even MSNBC had to call it a tie, for god sake)

    Fact: Not a big deal that is true.

    Fact: Biden was Obamas pick.

    Fact: So what does that say about Obama's ability to make good choices.

    Fact: Palin had a 76% approval in her state.

    Fact: That was the highest approval rating of all the states governors when McCain made his pick.

    Fact: That has to mean she was doing ALOT right in running her state.

    Fact: She had more executive experience then all three of them combined.

    Fact: Not since the 60s has there been a senator elected as a president.

    Fact: Never had we had at least one person on the ticket without executive experience.

    Fact: McCains choice was better by far then Obamas pick.

    Fact: So that point, has no logic behind it.

    Here if McCain would have said this in the debate with Obama would you or any non liberial still vote for him.

    "I dont think so I am not McCain. I tend to call people out reguardless of how bad it makes them look. For instance I would have asked a simple question: So if you said you never heard any of Rev. Rights racist remarks then why in your book did you speak the very same words, "White folks greed runs a world in need", Then I would have said, isn't that racist or do you think that is true that white folks are greedy. Then after Obama did his normal: Ha, da, hum, ha, da, hum, I, I, I, well, da, humm. Hell I would have then asked him what did he mean when he wrote: "In college I search out all the radicals and marxist I could find." Then I would have said, is that what you think most Americans are. At that point Obamas brain would have exploded and that would have been the end of the debate."

    Point of fact that proved Obama:

    A) lied when he said he never heard Rev. Wright say any racist remarks.

    B) Obama is a racist to agree with that so much that he used it in his book.

    C) obama is a radical and believes in the Marxist teachings.

    Now while those things were not brought up in a debate dont you think if the MSM was fare they would have brought it up. Then again everyone knows the MSM is hugely bias to the left and maybe they should have done a little more research into who they voted for to run the country they are going to live in.

    DONT YOU THINK THAT TO BE A WISE THING.

    How do you think I know all this BEFORE Obama got elected and told you all just who he was before you all saw it, AFTER HE BECAME PRESIDENT.

    P.S. And hey I am a dumby who cant spell so want does that make you or your friends if you did not see it before this dummy.
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    05-21-2010, 05:16 PM #132
    SiriuslyLong, You sre not getting the facts you dont get a approval rating as high as hers unless you are all of these: liked personally, and doing a great job for your state, that means you have to be intelligent. I would think even you would have to agree that you cant be a dumb twit and run a state FOR 2 years and STILL have a 76% approval rating.
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    05-21-2010, 06:37 PM #133
    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    SiriuslyLong, You sre not getting the facts you dont get a approval rating as high as hers unless you are all of these: liked personally, and doing a great job for your state, that means you have to be intelligent. I would think even you would have to agree that you cant be a dumb twit and run a state FOR 2 years and STILL have a 76% approval rating.
    John, she's a twit. Now stop being a dumbass.

    BTW, my "circle" is made up of caucasian men 35 to 68 who work, hunt, fish, play golf, drink beer (in fact, I'm playing golf with many of them next week; can't wait)...... Not one of them is liberal in any way. That's a FACT HA f'ing HA.

    I'm leaving now, go find liberal Lloyd.

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    05-21-2010, 06:39 PM #134
    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    SiriuslyLong, You sre not getting the facts you dont get a approval rating as high as hers unless you are all of these: liked personally, and doing a great job for your state, that means you have to be intelligent. I would think even you would have to agree that you cant be a dumb twit and run a state FOR 2 years and STILL have a 76% approval rating.


    John, if I'm not mistaken, President Clinton had an incredibly high approval rating when he left office. I can't remember exactly what it was, but it was pretty damn high. Did that make him a good President in your eyes? I'm just wondering because you seem to think that is what makes Palin a good person to run for public office.

    I just did a Google search and found this story from December 22, 1998.

    ***Latest opinion polls show that, post impeachment, Clinton's approval rating has jumped ten per cent to an all-time high 73 per cent, beating Ronald Reagan's record at the height of his popularity. The same CNN-Gallup Poll shows a precipitous drop in popular perception of the Republicans. Approval rating for the party has fallen from 57 per cent to 31 per cent with a corresponding increase in ratings for the Democratic party.***

    Once again, my point is that opinion polls don't make a person a good President. Or do they? You tell me John. Because Clinton had great numbers, do you think he was a great President? It seems like some sort of a double standard to me.
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    05-21-2010, 06:44 PM #135
    John, you're putting words in my mouth again. I didn't say that President Obama didn't write a book. And I didn't say anything at all about Palin writing a book. I said she's a very rich woman and it doesn't logic out to me that she would want the office now. That's all I said John.

    It's very hard to continue this conversation if you're going to be bending my words. I don't mind being quoted, but you're saying that I said things that I NEVER said or implied for that matter.

    Being rich is not a negative in my book. I'm almost there. In a lot of people's mind, I got rich years and years ago. There is nothing wrong with having a ton of money. And there is nothing wrong with Palin having a ton of money. I say good for her. It doesn't make me want her for President and that's why me and a lot of other people couldn't vote for McCain.


    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    That is the point most dont use logic to come to a good decision. Look before the Left wing media got involved she had a 76% approval rating. SHE DID THAT ON HER OWN AND BECAUSE OF THE GREAT JOB SHE WAS DOING. Point of fact you cant be a twit and run a state and have that huge of a approval rating. Point of fact, if that same media would have went after Obama like they did Palin then he would have looked like a bigger twit then they made Palin look like. Look need even more evidence, how many people even heard half of Bidens gaffs not to mention Obamas.

    Fact: She was then being mired in investigation after investigation by the democrats.

    Fact: All previous investigations up to that point were dropped because it was found that there was nothing to them or she did nothing wrong.

    Fact: It was taking up much of the time in the states Legislature to the point much else was not getting done.

    She said that the Legislature had become to partison due to her running for vice president and nothing else was getting done with alot of money being spent without anything coming from it.

    You see even you do it, you portray Palin as something different then Obama. Didn't Obama write a book and get alot of money from it, I think they call that a double standard.

    As for her doing well have you seen her ratings she also has the Tea Party backing and contrary to what you want to believe they are not right wing conservative wackos. There are many democrats and indepentants in there and many more that have a favorable opinion of them as a matter of fact more then that have a favorable opinion of them then they do of the democrats and republicans.

    You had better think again because like I said if you watch the MSM and not FOX you would think most disagree with the immagration bill Arizona passed yet the facts are much different with 70% of Arizona agreeing and 60 to 67% of Americans agree with it.

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    05-21-2010, 06:50 PM #136
    http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/gr...s2005+1998.pdf

    John you need to get used to the fact that the world's temperature is getting warmer. You hear from the NASA SCIENTISTS that that is so and yet you continue to be in denial about the facts.

    Can you show me where the the last 6 months temperatures have gotten colder? Please show me the proof. Come on show me you know more than the NASA scientists.
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    05-21-2010, 07:02 PM #137
    Post-Palin Alaska has the largest debt burden in the entire U.S.A.

    You betcha love Palin, John.

    http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0331/pos...t-debt-burden/
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    05-21-2010, 07:03 PM #138
    Quote Originally Posted by SiriuslyLong View Post
    John, she's a twit. Now stop being a dumbass.

    BTW, my "circle" is made up of caucasian men 35 to 68 who work, hunt, fish, play golf, drink beer (in fact, I'm playing golf with many of them next week; can't wait)...... Not one of them is liberal in any way. That's a FACT HA f'ing HA.

    I'm leaving now, go find liberal Lloyd.
    You rang? Lol.
    I agree that she is certainly not the most educated person there ever was. The report is that the McCain campaign had a collective heart attack when they realized that she didnt know the difference between South and North Korea. I think John identifies with her because he thought
    Thailand was spelled TYEland. Yikes.

    John i seem to remember that all the major polls showed Biden won the debate with Palin and that's despite the fact that most people thought she was going to fall on her face and not be able to utter a single word. The Republicans played those low expectations to the hilt, despite the fact that those who watched her in previous debates (in Alaska) knew she would perform better than expected.
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    05-21-2010, 07:24 PM #139
    SL, now I'm worried about you! You're married to a flamming liberal Democrat and you play golf???? What the hell's wrong with you?

    Say hi to your wife for me, I'm sure she's a fine person and I can't wait to meet the two of you face to face when you come down to the beach later this summer.


    Quote Originally Posted by SiriuslyLong View Post
    John, she's a twit. Now stop being a dumbass.

    BTW, my "circle" is made up of caucasian men 35 to 68 who work, hunt, fish, play golf, drink beer (in fact, I'm playing golf with many of them next week; can't wait)...... Not one of them is liberal in any way. That's a FACT HA f'ing HA.

    I'm leaving now, go find liberal Lloyd.

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    05-21-2010, 07:31 PM #140
    Candleman you forgot to remind S&L and his wife that they will have to cross
    John's picket line. How is the boycott going?

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