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  1. SiriuslyLong is offline
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    05-11-2010, 03:09 PM #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    There is absolutely no contradiction in the fact that China is the biggest polluter in the world today and the fact that they will be taking over the clean energy industry tommorow.

    Logic 101.

    There are problems with clean energy and there are problems with dirty energy. The future will be about clean energy. Time to enter the new century though it clearly frightens you.

    Read and learn. I mean read and learn. Lol

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/07/op...7Usher.html?hp
    In Solar, China may take it over due to cheap labor and non UL approved panels (hard to pass UL testing) - "Made in China" means just that. The EU is the technical leader. US Companies are behind, but we'll catch up.

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    05-11-2010, 03:10 PM #52
    No, i believe hate has ALWAYS been his intention and certainly his modus operandi. He has problems with whatever site he goes to.

    Socialist leaning nation? You mean like Denmark, Sweden, Finland.....
    Lol.

    I was just trying to remember the Capitalist nation that brought the world financial system to its it knees through unregulated derivative trading etc. Hmmmmm. Wonder who that could be? LOL.
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    05-11-2010, 03:14 PM #53
    Quote Originally Posted by candleman View Post
    I own the Sunscents Candle Company located in Duck North Carolina, Salem Candle Mfg. located in Whipple Ohio, and Carova Creations located in Carova Beach North Carolina.

    You see John. You can't win!

    By the way John, what businesses do you own and where are they located? How many Americans work in these businesses that you own and manage? In the past, you've stated that you don't work. Maybe we'll hear another story now.
    Next time I get down to Avon, I will stop by. We stay in the same place every year. It's the first street off 12 in Avon, beachside, right across from Wind Surf Hatteras.

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    05-11-2010, 03:18 PM #54
    Quote Originally Posted by SiriuslyLong View Post
    In Solar, China may take it over due to cheap labor and non UL approved panels (hard to pass UL testing) - "Made in China" means just that. The EU is the technical leader. US Companies are behind, but we'll catch up.
    Actually we are ahead in many areas of the technology but in serious danger of falling behind in the future. Read the article i posted; Red China, Green China.Its not just cheap labor (though its a huge part of it) its also amount of investment. And i am not just talking solar. For example the Chinese are investing over 300 billion dollars in high speed rail. They are going to build a high speed rail system that will connect all the major regions of the country.Its going to help their economy tremendously over the long term.
    They are spending the money thats necessary to take over the clean energy industry. At least Obama recognizes that and is trying to do something about it. The problem is that its hards to spend money when you dont have it. The more serious problem is we HAVE TO MAKE THESE INVESTMENTS to compete in the future.

    P.S. China has solar companies that build panels in this country so i assume they pass all the testing standards.
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    05-11-2010, 03:20 PM #55
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    Socialist leaning nation? You mean like Denmark, Sweden, Finland.....[QUOTE]

    Well, yeah. I was trying to conserve works.

    Yes, the name calling could go, but he's passionate about being conservative as YOU are being liberal. And don't say you aren't!!!

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    05-11-2010, 03:20 PM #56
    Hey, thanks for the link. I had no idea what the heck he was talking about. I'm still a little confused. I'll have to figure out what a "statist" is. Sometimes these terms that get thrown around are not a part of our so called normal English.

    But, I gather that John uses this technique when he wants to change the subject and not be confronted by the facts.

    Not a cool move as far as I'm concerned.

    Quote Originally Posted by SiriuslyLong View Post
    Hey, watch it LOL

    Saul Lewinsky - see link.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2256403/posts

    I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on "hate" as I don't believe that was the intention. He could have used any "socialist leaning" nation to make his point.

    Yin and Yang, right?

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    05-11-2010, 03:25 PM #57
    Quote Originally Posted by SiriuslyLong View Post
    Next time I get down to Avon, I will stop by. We stay in the same place every year. It's the first street off 12 in Avon, beachside, right across from Wind Surf Hatteras.
    That would be FANTASTIC! I enjoy sharing ideas with you and it would be great to put a face to the name.

    Several other guys from both of the stock threads have stopped in and introduced themselves and I've made great email buddies that way.

    Avon is beautiful. I go there several times a year to gather shells off the beach for our seashell candles. I live in Kitty Hawk. A little more central to the population zone here.

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    05-11-2010, 03:44 PM #58
    [QUOTE=SiriuslyLong;62064][QUOTE=Havakasha;62060]

    Socialist leaning nation? You mean like Denmark, Sweden, Finland.....

    Well, yeah. I was trying to conserve works.

    Yes, the name calling could go, but he's passionate about being conservative as YOU are being liberal. And don't say you aren't!!!
    I am absolutely passionate. Plead guilty.
    But when he wont read an article that clearly states what China's investment and committment for the future is in Clean energy and continues to ignore the facts about where the world is headed in the area of hybrid and electric vehicles, that my friend goes way beyond passion into distortion, ignorance and a few other choice words.\
    I have no problem with a passionate belief. But i have a problem with labels because i could argue many of my believes are more Conservative then his. And I HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM WITH WORDS THAT ARE INSULTING AND HATEFUL. Absolutely no reason for thenm. And people ALWAYS have to be called on them.

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    05-12-2010, 01:53 PM #59
    Quote Originally Posted by candleman View Post
    I own the Sunscents Candle Company located in Duck North Carolina, Salem Candle Mfg. located in Whipple Ohio, and Carova Creations located in Carova Beach North Carolina.

    You see John. You can't win!

    By the way John, what businesses do you own and where are they located? How many Americans work in these businesses that you own and manage? In the past, you've stated that you don't work. Maybe we'll hear another story now.
    I have made it clear from the beginning I am retired. I did own several companies, "TNT Rentals", "TCS Design and Development", "Scoops N More Inc". I do not know if the buyers are still using or used the same names or not or if they just just bought it for the assets ( I did here that one of the ice cream shops was being used as a Tye restuarant). For the first two I had put to work several other companies and sub contractors, Buliding homes puts many to work, from the people that survey the land to people that make and bring the concrete to the concrete finishers to rough carpenters to the finish carpenters to the people that make the dry wall to the ones that then hang and finish the dry wall to the people that make the flooring to the ones that install it. to the ones that make the roofing to the ones that do the roofing to the ones that make the cabinets to the finish carpenter that hang them (already mentioned (finish carpenters, any finish carpenter can hang capnets there are just a few that can do stair hand rails) to the eletrical, plumbing, and heating (the same company does both rough and finish). The list gos on and on but I think you get the point. Scoops N' More (except for the suppliers) had several dozens of people working most were kids though and were seasonal/part time (noone manages a mostly cash business better then yourself or family).


    P.S. Dumbshit I am no longer in bussiness, but anyone that is, knows you do not make it blantantly known what political ideology you have. IT TENDS TO ALEINATE PEOPLE THAT WOULD HAVE COME TO YOUR BUSSINESS. Dumbass have you ever wondered why it is very rear to see a bussiness with a political sign in front of it. Here let me give you an example: Even if Ronald Reagan was running, I would not have his election sign anywhere on one of my BUSINESS properties.

    So I have won, now I know your business and I have your comments made here and I will spread the word (on any sites close to you) of both and let people decide if they want to come to a dumbasses liberial place of bussiness. Hummm something tells me there is a good 50 percent of NC. that is conservative. I will let them make up their own mind on if they want to support you and your type of polocies or not.

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    05-12-2010, 01:56 PM #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    John is the only one here who is hiding behind his alias. What does that tell you?

    Yea this coming from a guy that created a new user name to try and fool people into thinking he had someone that also agreed with him. Isn't that right "Lloyd".

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