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  1. Havakasha is offline
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    05-11-2010, 01:02 PM #31
    Quote Originally Posted by SiriuslyLong View Post
    Candleman - John's point in the post is why would pe come here only to vote for the same things they left for? I don't think he's trying to start something based on race or nationality. John - Candleman, in my experience, has conservative view points on certain issues. I wouldn't sprinkle "liberal" on him like Havakasha.

    So let's play nice and all pick on Havakasha since Atypical left him.
    No. Lets pick on S&L because its not enough to feel bad that Mr. Socialism, Communism, dumbass, twit, has filled his heart with hate. We must make sure he feels our pain.
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    05-11-2010, 01:22 PM #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    "50 percent increases in gas would cost our economy tens of billions more"

    Very simplistic. Doesnt take into account many billions that have been taken out of our economy from costs to keep oil and gas prices down (not to mention cost of cleanup toour environment). To really understand this issue in all its complexity you would have to do a serious study that compared costs over 50 years (for example) if we had diversified our energy sources in the economy Cant just look at the immediate cost to society from increasing gas prices.


    The list of good regulations from govt (local and national) is very long. listed a few.

    Hitler+Nazism-fascism
    Mussolino=fascism
    Franco=fascism

    Stop all your hate.It destroys your insides.
    I think a govt study proved that.

    Dumbass, those billions taken out of economy to keep gas low was NEVER OURS the Companies are just giving the government less in taxes of their OWN MONEY. Only a liberial would call someone elses profits his. Ho I'm sorry I should have said only a liberial, a socailist, and communist.



    Dumbass wind and solar are not today economical they were 5 times worse then. Or we could just look no further the Span, Yea lets go the way of Span, ho thats right all the studies show for every alternative energy job created they lost 20 others. Yep thats the liberial economic polocies though isn't it. Thats why you all are twits.



    Yea like the regulation that forced the banks to give loans to people who could not afford them or ever pay them back, yea that was a ggod one wasn't it.




    I'll tell you what you stop the lying through your teeth and I would not hate your dumb ass.

    Yep Judge Judy, when she calls people like you who just dont get it, thick headed, a waste of space, ask if people like you have any kids and they say no and she says, good keep it that way. My favorite is when she asked one twit (not much unlike yourself Havasucker) were she worked, when she said I am a nurse, Judge Judy said man I going to take double my vitimans when I get home. And guess what the audeince did you dumb twit they laughed at those people because while they and the dumb twits around them could not understand what Judge Judy was saying the rest of the people in the court room did. Hey havasucker you know how you dont think people are laughing at you when I slam you and I am telling you they are. Well I suggest you watch Judge Judy and the next time she explains simple logic to someone and that person still does not get it and she slams them with a, "you really that thick" or anything else she uses and the people in the court laugh at that person, that person everyone is laughing at is you when I do the samething to you.

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    05-11-2010, 01:28 PM #33
    Quote Originally Posted by SiriuslyLong View Post
    Candleman - John's point in the post is why would pe come here only to vote for the same things they left for? I don't think he's trying to start something based on race or nationality. John - Candleman, in my experience, has conservative view points on certain issues. I wouldn't sprinkle "liberal" on him like Havakasha.

    So let's play nice and all pick on Havakasha since Atypical left him.

    siriuslyLong, That twit is just using a Saul lewinski trick. Thats all that is, what he does not know is I read the book too and it will not shut me up. I will still call a twit a twit.

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    05-11-2010, 01:34 PM #34
    Havasucker you are right I do actually hate you. Anyone that lies as much as you do does not deserve any respect what so ever. Thats why I actually love yes love making you look foolish and revel in the fact I know most are laughing at you.


    I could have respect for liberials if they were honest, the problem is I have yet to find one.

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    05-11-2010, 01:34 PM #35
    Read and learn. No more hate and iies please.

    http://www.energyandcapital.com/arti...-gas-crude/461


    P.S. He would let Cihina destroy us economically. They are going to take over the clean energy
    industry if we listen to him. 262 billion invested in clean energy in 2009. Going to increase exponentially in the next 10 years. He is literally stuck in another century. Unaware how much the world has changed and having a hard time accepting it. Sad actually.
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    05-11-2010, 01:46 PM #36
    And explain this, you idiot


    "China 'now top carbon polluter"

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7347638.stm


    OR THIS:

    "China is World's Biggest Polluter"

    http://www.medindia.com/news/China-i...er-35467-1.htm


    OR THIS:

    "Job Losses From Obama Green Stimulus Foreseen in Spanish Study"


    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=a2PHwqAs7BS0

    Boy that Bloomburg news must be right wing.


    OR THIS:

    "Study: Spain’s green energy destroyed 2x as many jobs as it created."

    http://www.lesjones.com/2009/03/31/s...as-it-created/

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    05-11-2010, 01:51 PM #37
    Quote Originally Posted by SiriuslyLong View Post
    Candleman - John's point in the post is why would pe come here only to vote for the same things they left for? I don't think he's trying to start something based on race or nationality. John - Candleman, in my experience, has conservative view points on certain issues. I wouldn't sprinkle "liberal" on him like Havakasha.

    So let's play nice and all pick on Havakasha since Atypical left him.
    Yeah, where is Atypical???

    SL, I just call a spade a spade. I'm not here to talk with John. He's not capable of having a decent conversation with people that don't agree with him. He likes to call people names like a young child would. That's not the way to solve any problems or to find conclusions that would help find answers.

    But, he is very capable of calling his fellow Americans dumbass twits, socialists and the like.

    Havakasha hit the naill on the head a little while ago. He pointed out that John may be another Tim McVey in our midst. Both served in the Gulf War. Both have blinders on and are only capable of seeing their own point of view. Both used foul language when speaking of people they don't agree with. Both had ties to Michigan.

    I have followed the ramblings of John for a year. I have never seen anything like him before. I think it's very important that he not be given a soapbox to spew his hate from. SiriusBuzz has provided that for him. So, I'll just follow him around and make sure that our fellow forum members have another way to look at things when he attacks people.

    Think about the title of this thread. John states that at least 70% of South American immigrants are dumb twits or just lazy. That is just plain hate speech. That's all it is.

    I have a son in law from Ecuador. Not lazy or dumb. I know about a dozen other folks from South America. None of them lazy or dumb. And yet, John creates a whole thread saying such negative things about our fellow Americans.

    I think John is a very scary person and people should be aware of the dangers that he presents to our melting pot of a society.

    By the way SL. Do you have any idea who this Saul Lwinsky is? John has brought him up before. I don't watch TV so I don't know about him. Does he have a TV show like Judge Judy, who seems to be a hero of John's? LOL, that's a scary thought to have heros who are TV actors....LOL

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    05-11-2010, 01:55 PM #38
    There is absolutely no contradiction in the fact that China is the biggest polluter in the world today and the fact that they will be taking over the clean energy industry tommorow.

    Logic 101.

    There are problems with clean energy and there are problems with dirty energy. The future will be about clean energy. Time to enter the new century though it clearly frightens you.

    Read and learn. I mean read and learn. Lol

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/07/op...7Usher.html?hp

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    05-11-2010, 01:58 PM #39
    Quote Originally Posted by candleman View Post
    Yeah, where is Atypical???

    SL, I just call a spade a spade. I'm not here to talk with John. He's not capable of having a decent conversation with people that don't agree with him. He likes to call people names like a young child would. That's not the way to solve any problems or to find conclusions that would help find answers.

    But, he is very capable of calling his fellow Americans dumbass twits, socialists and the like.

    Havakasha hit the naill on the head a little while ago. He pointed out that John may be another Tim McVey in our midst. Both served in the Gulf War. Both have blinders on and are only capable of seeing their own point of view. Both used foul language when speaking of people they don't agree with. Both had ties to Michigan.

    I have followed the ramblings of John for a year. I have never seen anything like him before. I think it's very important that he not be given a soapbox to spew his hate from. SiriusBuzz has provided that for him. So, I'll just follow him around and make sure that our fellow forum members have another way to look at things when he attacks people.

    Think about the title of this thread. John states that at least 70% of South American immigrants are dumb twits or just lazy. That is just plain hate speech. That's all it is.

    I have a son in law from Ecuador. Not lazy or dumb. I know about a dozen other folks from South America. None of them lazy or dumb. And yet, John creates a whole thread saying such negative things about our fellow Americans.

    I think John is a very scary person and people should be aware of the dangers that he presents to our melting pot of a society.

    By the way SL. Do you have any idea who this Saul Lwinsky is? John has brought him up before. I don't watch TV so I don't know about him. Does he have a TV show like Judge Judy, who seems to be a hero of John's? LOL, that's a scary thought to have heros who are TV actors....LOL
    Very well put Candleman. The level of hate and lies is shocking and scary.
    Reminds me so much of the Birthers, the people who kill abortion doctors,
    and the Timothy McVeigh's of the world. They always find a reason to justify their violence and hate..

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    05-11-2010, 02:13 PM #40
    Quote Originally Posted by candleman View Post
    Yeah, where is Atypical???

    SL, I just call a spade a spade. I'm not here to talk with John. He's not capable of having a decent conversation with people that don't agree with him. He likes to call people names like a young child would. That's not the way to solve any problems or to find conclusions that would help find answers.

    But, he is very capable of calling his fellow Americans dumbass twits, socialists and the like.

    Havakasha hit the naill on the head a little while ago. He pointed out that John may be another Tim McVey in our midst. Both served in the Gulf War. Both have blinders on and are only capable of seeing their own point of view. Both used foul language when speaking of people they don't agree with. Both had ties to Michigan.

    I have followed the ramblings of John for a year. I have never seen anything like him before. I think it's very important that he not be given a soapbox to spew his hate from. SiriusBuzz has provided that for him. So, I'll just follow him around and make sure that our fellow forum members have another way to look at things when he attacks people.

    Think about the title of this thread. John states that at least 70% of South American immigrants are dumb twits or just lazy. That is just plain hate speech. That's all it is.

    I have a son in law from Ecuador. Not lazy or dumb. I know about a dozen other folks from South America. None of them lazy or dumb. And yet, John creates a whole thread saying such negative things about our fellow Americans.

    I think John is a very scary person and people should be aware of the dangers that he presents to our melting pot of a society.

    By the way SL. Do you have any idea who this Saul Lwinsky is? John has brought him up before. I don't watch TV so I don't know about him. Does he have a TV show like Judge Judy, who seems to be a hero of John's? LOL, that's a scary thought to have heros who are TV actors....LOL

    You see SiriuslyLong let me show you just what a twit candleman is. First of all he never did answer the question (yes when he was responding to me) then what else would you call that. It is ether one or the other. You see that is what they do, if the answer does not go along with their ideology then they just dont bother to answer it. I call that lying and he is a piece of crap for it. He has no integrety what so ever. I have cought him in several blantant lies already. He thinks that is hate and he is right I cant stand a person who cant seem to tell the truth. I would not do business with a lier would you. I suggest for people in his area not to do business with him because you will not get what he says you will. that is clear from the several lies he has told and been cought in. That shows the kind of integrety he has which is none.


    I bet he has never asked them, who they voted for and if it was a democrat he never questioned them as to why, would you come from a socialist country and then vote for the very same people whose polocies lead your old country into the place which you think sucks to a point that you had to come here now. You see candleman never wants to get to the jest of the problem. He likes that they dont keep score in games anymore because he is a political correct pussy and a lier to boot.


    P.S. If candleman was proud of himself he would have no proplem putting the name of his business up and were it is located.

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