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    09-28-2009, 04:24 PM #51
    http://tamino.wordpress.com/2009/08/...the-volcanoes/

    Read it john and refute it. here is the other piece i posted once and now twice on volcanos and global warming and you refuse to answer.

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    09-28-2009, 04:33 PM #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    "Carbon dioxide-released when we burn fossil fuels to produce electricity, use gasoline in our cars, or witch on our natural gas stoves for cooking-has BEEN SINGLED OUT AS THE BIGGEST FACTOR in changing the Earth's climatic conditions. Since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution an estimated 350 BILLION TONS have been released throught the burning of fossil fuels"
    "Methane is another cited for global warming. it is a gas created naturally as a waste product of anaerobic bacteria (living with little or no oxygen). These bacteria produce methand gas in waterlogged soils and wetlands, but also in human -produced environments like rice paddies. An estimated 19% of methane gas comes from rice paddies. the other top sources of methane gas in the atmospher are wetlands (20.2 %), ruminants or CUD-CHEWING ANIMALS LIKE CATTLE (14%. That's only 14% of methane gas John.), biomass fires , such as BURNING FORESTS (9.7%), OIL AND PIPELINE LEAKS (7.9%), termites (7 %), COAL MINING (6.2%), landfills (6.2%) , animal wastes (5 %) and sewage (4.4%)
    NIROGEN compounds, the primary pollutants that contribute to air pollution, also augment in inreasing the planet's average temeprature . The most comon of these compounds are nitrogen oxide and nitrogen dioxide. As with other POLLUTANTS butrigeb compounds COME PRIMARILY FROM AUTOMOBILES AND ELECTRIC POWER-GENERATING PLANTS. "
    "ANOTHER WHICH IS ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY PRODUCED BY HUMAN
    ACTIVITY IS THE CHOLOROFLUOROCARBONS (CFC'S) scientists say that CFC is approximately 15,000 times more effecient as a greenhouse gas than carbon disoxide.

    This was published on july 23, 2009. So cattle is only 14% of METHANE gas which contributes less to greenhouses gases than CO2
    There is another post about cud chewing animals (cows and more).
    You said first that cows produce more greenhouse gases than cars and then you said THE IT DEMONSTRATES THAT HUMAN ACTIVITY ISNT A LARGE PART OF THE EQUATION IN CLIMATE CHANGE.

    WRONG john. i just posted almost all the contributors to globaL climate change. Many of them are human. It says " Carbon dioxide released when
    we burn fossil fuels to produce electricity, use gasoline in our cars, or switch on our natural gas stoves for cooking HAS BEEN SINGLED OUT AS THE BIGGEST FACTOR IN CHANGING THE EARTHS CLIMATIC CONDITIONS.
    So even if you were correct about cows giving off more greenhouse gases than cars that wouldnt provet shit. You get it? There is much more human activity than cars and together CLIMATE SCIENTISTS AGREE IN OVERWHELMING NUMBERS THAT THEY DO INFLUENCE OUR CLIMATE.

    DONT YOU EVEN KNOW THE THESIS OF YOUR OWN QUESTIONS WHICH YOU SAID NO ONE HAS EVER ANSWERED?

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    09-29-2009, 12:28 AM #53
    This is a political discussion site NOT a porn site. Change the channel Mr. fool.

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    09-29-2009, 02:46 PM #54
    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    Now I am sorry I am using another post to respond to Havakasha (aka: lloyd Handwerker) but I was laughing so hard I had to go pee and wipe the tears from my eyes after I picked myself up off the floor.


    Now where was I, ho yea I see Havakasha (aka: lloyd Handwerker) you got one part of of the first question done and it only took 3 post now where is the rest of it. I know I know you are asking what am I talking about. Well here you are: "The Environmental Protection Agency on April 17, 2009 issued a proposed finding that contribute to climate change. The six gases; carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, hydrofluorocarbons, perfluorocarbons and sulfur hexafluoride are all greenhouse gases". So you got one of them where are the other 5.


    You have had 3 months and you only where able to get the first part of the first question. What is it going to take another 3 months before I get the second part of the first question. Lets hurry up I am 43 now and I dont think I have that much time the way you are going.


    Please note the 1st question again it says "global warming gases" not gas and not just CO2.

    P.S. Try doing the amount of sulfur airsols next


    lloyd because you want to keep putting up post I responded to, so will I when it comes to reanswering your post.


    Hey twit look again the question it does not JUST say CO2. IT SAYS GASES, not gas. Do you even understand that volacanos put out 4 of the 5 and parts of the 5th of global warming gases.

    It is a fact CO2 is one of the smallest of the global warming gases. Water is the largest one.

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    09-29-2009, 03:15 PM #55
    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    As for the question number 3 Havakasha (lloyd) you always get it wrong dont you. Look at it again

    3) If your own UN studies say that cows put out more global warming gases then all the cars then how are humans so much of the equation.


    That has always been your problem. The question does not say that cows put out more global warming gases then anything else, IT SAYS CARS.

    Here is a lib newspaper saying it: "Methane, with 21 times the warming potential of CO2, comes from both ends of a cow"

    http://articles.latimes.com/2007/oct...n/ed-methane15

    Here is another:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...rs-427843.html

    I could do this all day long.



    Now you are ether the most ignorant person on earth or just trying to mislead people. You even try to say because the UNs study came out when Bush was president that the UNs study was skewed. Really since when has the UN ever done what Bush wants or for that matter what the USA wants. Counties in the UN vote against the USA 81% of the time.


    Havakasha (lloyd), are you saying the UN is wrong????? How can that be These are the same kinds of facts that they use to say man is responsible for global warming.



    Once again I answer your repost with another repost. Methane, has 21 times the warming potential of CO2. you repost a study that says cows are not the number one contributor to METHANE. That was not the question but that methane from cows causes more global warming gases then all the cars. That is because METHANE has a far larger cause and effect of global warming then CO2.


    Loyd if anything you just prove my point that humans dont cause global warming you just said yourself that cows are not even the only contributor to methane but that they are not even number one but swamps are. You do realize New York, Most of Florida, Paris, Venice, SC., Much More of Louisiana then is now, the mid west around the mississippi, ect., ect., ect., (and I could go on and on) was swamp land before man developed them.


    Watch the history channel "life after people".

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    09-29-2009, 05:39 PM #56
    LOL. This is hysterical. i listed a long scientifc paragraph that discusses GASES. i feel like i am in the twilight zone. i listed scientific evidence that demonstrates your premises are incorrect. You just dont want to believe it. God bless you for the way your mind works. Keep on believing what you want JOHN. Your a beligerent hoot for sure.

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    09-29-2009, 05:51 PM #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    LOL. This is hysterical. i listed a long scientifc paragraph that discusses GASES. i feel like i am in the twilight zone. i listed scientific evidence that demonstrates your premises are incorrect. You just dont want to believe it. God bless you for the way your mind works. Keep on believing what you want JOHN. Your a beligerent hoot for sure.

    Your proplem is you dont read things carefully enough, You prove my points. You should read the things you put up closer. I have seen much of what you have put up before and what you dont realize is there is a reason no one answers those questions that is because the information you pull up proves my point about man made global warming being a hoax. You were dumb enough to fall right in the trap now there is no way out and you have yet to answer the rest of even the 1st question or come to realize that question 2 proves my point.
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    09-29-2009, 06:00 PM #58
    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    Your proplem is you dont read things carefully enough, You prove my points. You should read the things you put up closer.
    This is the man who says he doesnt read my posts! (LOL) telling me to read his posts and read them carefully.
    This is the man who leaves out the central claim of his 3 questions That A is true therefore B is true. HE FORGOT TO TAKE LOGIC 101.
    The man who doesnt counter my claim that CLIMATE SCIENTISTS overwhelming believe that man plays a large part in global warming and climate change. The man who puts forward a petition that is throughly discredited. What a mensch you are john.

    CLIMATESCIENTISTSCLIMATE SCIENCECLIMATE SCIENTISTSCLIMATESCIENCE
    YOU CANT ESCAPE THE TRUTH JOHN. ITS FOLLOWING YOU EVERYWHERE.LOL

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    09-29-2009, 06:06 PM #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Havakasha View Post
    This is the man who says he doesnt read my posts! (LOL) telling me to read his posts and read them carefully.
    This is the man who leaves out the central claim of his 3 questions That A is true therefore B is true. HE FORGOT TO TAKE LOGIC 101.
    The man who doesnt counter my claim that CLIMATE SCIENTISTS overwhelming believe that man plays a large part in global warming and climate change. The man who puts forward a petition that is throughly discredited. What a mensch you are john.

    CLIMATESCIENTISTSCLIMATE SCIENCECLIMATE SCIENTISTSCLIMATESCIENCE
    YOU CANT ESCAPE THE TRUTH JOHN. ITS FOLLOWING YOU EVERYWHERE.LOL
    This from the same guy that has a double standard and complains about other scientist but thinks it is ok when they are the same kinds scientist on his side.


    Do you need to read this again:

    "Professor Bob Carter of the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University, in Australia gives what, for many Canadians, is a surprising assessment: "Gore's circumstantial arguments are so weak that they are pathetic. It is simply incredible that they, and his film, are commanding public attention."


    No; Carter is one of hundreds of highly qualified non-governmental, non-industry, non-lobby group climate experts who contest the hypothesis that human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) are causing significant global climate change. "Climate experts" is the operative term here. Why? Because what Gore's "majority of scientists" think is immaterial when only a very small fraction of them actually work in the climate field.

    Even among that fraction, many focus their studies on the impacts of climate change; biologists, for example, who study everything from insects to polar bears to poison ivy. "While many are highly skilled researchers, they generally do not have special knowledge about the causes of global climate change," explains former University of Winnipeg climatology professor Dr. Tim Ball. "They usually can tell us only about the effects of changes in the local environment where they conduct their studies.""


    http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/harris061206.htm

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    09-29-2009, 06:12 PM #60
    CLIMATESCIENTISTSCLIMATE SCIENCECLIMATESCIENTISTSCLIMATESCIENCE

    THEY OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORT THE IDEA THAT GLOBAL WARMING AND CLIMATE CHANGE IS LARGELY CAUSED BY MAN.


    Show me one study of CLIMATE SCIENTISTS john that shows they dont support that premise. You cant avoid those words John. You just cant LOL.

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