SXM Intraday Thread Wednesday July 29th 2009:

[SiriusBuzz]

Funny, I tend to think the opposite provided they had something insightful to say. Not to mention, Relmor's response was a message board post, not an article in Times. I also think that bringing up typo's and such is usually a sign that you're stumped.

I am not taking any sides either but, I tend to agree with him. I bite my tongue all the time... it isn't so much typos that bother me, as I am guilty of it myself when it comes to quick responses on the forums, it is the misuse of words and conjunctions that irk me for some reason... and I personally know people who are bothered by it far more than I... so I tend to believe this guy.

Personally I think that proper use of the English language is important as all hell and I am often amazed by people who do it so well. As someone with a math/programming type mind, I constantly strive for better vocabulary, since it has never been something in which I have excelled at.

In closing... "yuor" is a typo while "your" vs "you're" is not a typo.

In keeping with a theme this week Jay Severin (who Tyler has mentioned on several occasions) has a command of the English language which I am totally envious of.

[socalrunningfool]

May I suggest you incorporate spell check software into your message boards, to help you with your ailment.

[relmor2003]

relmor2003,

For someone who professes to know about responsible journalism, why is it you are completely inept when it comes to the proper use of contractions and punctuation.

When someone uses the word 'your' when they should use "you're", or can't properly spell "don't", it immediately tells me they are an intellectual cripple.

FTR, there was NOTHING irresponsible about Moritz's reporting.
His analysis is an editorial that expresses an OPINION based on his research and experience.

His article and opinion is just as valid as anything Tyler posts.

Perhaps you ought to study to find out what journalism actually is.

LOL. Another basher retort. Grammer. Someone else posted that its a sign of being stumped. Yes, its a sign they have nothign better to say than attack someones grammer. I know how to type sentences perfectly(lol, as anyone can with this language(700000 words in it) and choose to sacrifice spelling and grammer for speed. If this bothers you, then dont read message boards, emails, texts, or posts. Go crawl in your closet, and you wont have to be bothered communicating wth anyone anymore. Attacking grammer is as desperate and age old basher technique as there is. Hilarious. Sad too.
Blah blah Phoeny, thanks for coming in and proving all my points about you. Thank you!!!

[relmor2003]

I am not taking any sides either but, I tend to agree with him. I bite my tongue all the time... it isn't so much typos that bother me, as I am guilty of it myself when it comes to quick responses on the forums, it is the misuse of words and conjunctions that irk me for some reason... and I personally know people who are bothered by it far more than I... so I tend to believe this guy.

Personally I think that proper use of the English language is important as all hell and I am often amazed by people who do it so well. As someone with a math/programming type mind, I constantly strive for better vocabulary, since it has never been something in which I have excelled at.

In closing... "yuor" is a typo while "your" vs "you're" is not a typo.

In keeping with a theme this week Jay Severin (who Tyler has mentioned on several occasions) has a command of the English language which I am totally envious of.

LOL. YOU'RE AN IDIOT.
LOL
LOL
Now all my posts will be improperly using grammer and misspelling words on purpose, just to piss you off charles. Be my pleasure.

[Dr. Dave]

I am not taking any sides either but, I tend to agree with him. I bite my tongue all the time... it isn't so much typos that bother me, as I am guilty of it myself when it comes to quick responses on the forums, it is the misuse of words and conjunctions that irk me for some reason... and I personally know people who are bothered by it far more than I... so I tend to believe this guy.

Personally I think that proper use of the English language is important as all hell and I am often amazed by people who do it so well. As someone with a math/programming type mind, I constantly strive for better vocabulary, since it has never been something in which I have excelled at.

In closing... "yuor" is a typo while "your" vs "you're" is not a typo.

In keeping with a theme this week Jay Severin (who Tyler has mentioned on several occasions) has a command of the English language which I am totally envious of.

Actually, my intention to post was to help Bah bah out a little. When he resorts to the "you can't spell argument", I cease to take any thing he has to say from there on out seriously.

I too have to write for a living, and have published my share of journal articles, and when I do, yes, the spelling and grammar are put together. But, hell, on a message board when you are busy, forget it. I don't proof read anything, cause I shouldn't be spending that much time posting in the first place. Everyone is different I guess. But, I'm sure Relmor knows the difference between "your" and "you're", and if you're typing fast, it is a typo. And I wouldn't discount what he had to say based on that.

I guess it's just the context - a person who submits a journal article to me that is riddled with poor grammar, etc. is going to have it sent back. A few typos, and I point them out, provided the science fits the journal. In fact, in that context they stick out like a sore thumb. I can spot an extra space a mile away and it sometimes infuriates me if I start seeing them every other page.

However, if I'm reviewing funding applications, and I see a handful of typos, but the science is superb, and it looks like it will really make a step forward to understanding/treating a disease (and the researcher is top notch and has an excellent track record), I'll give it a thumbs up over a lesser application even if the better one used "you're" instead of "your" on pg. 15, 17 and 19.

Also, I wouldn't convince myself a Nobel prize or National Academy winner is an intellectual waste for such. On the flipside, there are plenty of people who go the other way, and will reject the better application for another just on that point alone. I know of one that was simply rejected because of the use of "X-ray" and "x-ray" in the same application - I would have noticed for sure, but if the research had promise, I'd look the other way. Say it was for ALS treatments, I would think, "if I were in a wheel chair due to Lou Gherig's disease and paid taxes, would I rather fund the person who looks like they may have a treatment or the one that had a slightly cleaner application, but is barking up the wrong tree?

I rambled enough. But, I've been saved time and time again on message boards related to my job by people who were busy and didn't check their spelling and grammar. If I had to look at their job application, then I'd pay more attention.

That's my take anyway.

You know, I have to wear braces for my hands, and I type quickly, and I do have a problem with spitting words out correctly - and I will fix them depending on the context. Handwriting, I have a tendency to flip "b,d, and p" around, and "m and w", sometimes I start on the second letter if it's still a word - like "the" will become "he". And this year, half of my checks will be written with the date the 9th, because it's 2009. So, that would definitely put me in Bah bah's retard bin.

In the end, I thought Bah bah had something reasonable to say, but he ruined it with the intellectual waste, or whatever it was and Relmor's post was readable, at least to me.

Anyhoo - enough on that one. I regret the stream of babble reply, it's late, I'm tired, so I ramble. Also, I likely won't be back in for this discussion.

btw, if the grammar in Relmor's post nullified his points, you should see a presentation by a Nobel prize winner - you'd stick a knife in your neck, hahaha. But in some way's its a better place with some of those guys around.

I do see you're point to a point, and quite honestly, I wish I understood poetry. But, it'll never happen. (see, I typed you're on accident - hahaha! - I'll keep it there)

Happy trading!

[Dr. Dave]

Oh yeah - this is a great site by the way. Thanks for putting it together.

I guess for me, the bickering keeps me out of the SIRI intraday thread, but some of the other threads I love!

[SiriMonkey]

[QUOTE=SiriusBuzz;43780]I am not taking any sides either but, I tend to agree with him. I bite my tongue all the time... it isn't so much typos that bother me, as I am guilty of it myself when it comes to quick responses on the forums, it is the misuse of words and conjunctions that irk me for some reason... and I personally know people who are bothered by it far more than I... so I tend to believe this guy.

Good Morning,

Before another thread is started I feel I must respond to this. Prior to posting on Sirius Buzz, for several months I continued to lurk.
I hesitated to begin posting because of exactly what we are addressing
now, language skills.

I am amazed by the wealth of knowledge that can be found here.
When I am reading I am not focusing on misspelled words or missing commas,
I am focusing on the content. And with myself, I feel comfortable enough to interject my thoughts without fear of being ridiculed or judged. I did not realize I was being graded on spelling errors and the misuse of a comma.

With the post count being so low, I am surprised this is even a topic of discussion. It seems to me people should be encouraged to post, not to be
hesitant because of spelling or language skills.

This took me twice the time I usually spend composing a response to a post.
Only because I was carefully checking my spelling and my wording. What a
shame, I could have been adding several more to my post count by not being
so cautious.

Don't discourage others from posting because of YOUR, (not you're) issues.

Julie

[relmor2003]

Your right Julietoo. I agree. Your also very smart. Your also a wonder to listen to. Your a very smart person arent you?
Your a good poster.
Your a lot smarter than even some site owners.
Your wiser too.
Your also probably funnier.

There, I think that was enough misused your's for now.

[imromo24]

Your definately correct their. Shes also quick witted. Your forgetting that shes a great moderator to.

[relmor2003]

Your definately correct their. Shes also quick witted. Your forgetting that shes a great moderator to.

LOL. Of course. Your right!!!! LOL
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