SIRI Intraday thread: Monday June 1st

[JohnnyIrishXM]

Last time i checked the Japanese and Spanish were Capitalists.
By the way there is more than one form of Capitalism.
I gave you one example with Spanish high speed trains.

and what is the defense and social budgets of these so called Capitalist society's?as a % of GDP?

[JohnnyIrishXM]

You are funny.
THIS WAS ALWAYS THE KIND OF BANKRUPTCY THAT WAS BEING TALKED
ABOUT.
Remember Chrysler? Govt was always talking about a quick bankruptcy but
if you need to feel better about your predictions go right ahead.

Chrysler was a private company,bondholders and unions had no leverage,so you are wrong comparing the so called QUICKNESS of BK.it is not the same..

[JohnnyIrishXM]

It always amazes me when people compare the USA to a country in Europe the size of 1 state here and have no real armies or capital expenditures like here...

[relmor2003]

Could ANY CEO have made it work? OF COURSE! But not the ones who were
there obviously. Never be able to prove it but the writing was on the wall for years and large dinsosaurs grow extinct.

No way. It was a ticking time bomb with its expenses. No CEO could have sold the union these concessions. No way. They needed the governments help, and the threat to lose everything. Your wrong. GM died in the 60's and 70's when they decided it would be a good idea to pay people to do nothing, and pay for their health care too. Wait a minute, am I agreeing with you? Yes, the writing was on the wall, but i think for different reasons than you are saying. GM died when we garnered the ability in our medical fields to keep dead people alive an extra 10 to 15 years.

[lloyd Handwerker]

Your nuts, the writing was not on the wall, not a sole predicted that speculators that had nothing to do with needing oil would hold so much of the control of it through contracts 10 years ago. As for the articles you saw I saw the same ones talking about supply, the problem with that is that there are plenty of others that went the other way. The problem with the other side is none of those ever figured our own government would block our own exploration of oil in areas it controls, you cant blame them because who would ever think that the government would want to hurt its own people/economy.

No! Your nuttier.
Sorry, but the writing was on the wall with regard to the auto industry.
I am no rocket scientist and was talking about it years ago and not for the
self serving reasons you stated. I love the fact that you blame the govt for blocking oil exploration. Very funny stuff. The facts show that oil companies had plenty of areas to explore and ACTUALLY chose not to because of economics. Good ole fashion capitalism at work.
it interesting that no where in ANY of your arguments do you EVER acknowledge that a business like GM with all the advantages it had MESSED
UP. Blame it on everyone but the people running the business. That is some
pretty funny crap."IDS

[relmor2003]

It always amazes me when people compare the USA to a country in Europe the size of 1 state here and have no real armies or capital expenditures like here...

Compare us to China and Russia. Only countries comparable. Germany is a joke. So is the UK.

[JohnnyIrishXM]

Good Morning everyone,was reading and catching up but had to respond to good arguments as i read...so we are up today a little i see..

[lloyd Handwerker]

and what is the defense and social budgets of these so called Capitalist society's?as a % of GDP?

So i quess your argument is that we couldnt have done anything differently. I
quess if someone other than Bush was in office it all would have gone exactly the same. I quess that means leaders of Govt and business do nothing, effect nothing, mean nothing. Are you an anarchist by any chance?

[lloyd Handwerker]

Compare us to China and Russia. Only countries comparable. Germany is a joke. So is the UK.

China is making MAJOR investments in electric car battery technology, high
speed trains, solar, wind etc. We better get going because they are going
to pass us quickly.

[JohnnyIrishXM]

Historically speaking China just entered the 1950's in terms of economic development compared to the USA and Russia is in the 70's and Japan is in the 90's with Germany and France and England a littler behind us..