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  1. exilejeff is offline
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    04-07-2009, 12:32 PM #41
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyIrishXM View Post
    ok,that is the extent of my religion speak...

    Does anybody else here think that Osama Bin Laden is a genious,for luring the U.S. into battle in the middle east to get rid of the kingdoms in the arab world and also to bankrupt us from this war ,with the lesson he learned when we backed him up in Afganistan with war against Russia,that helped bankrupt the soviet union and ended communism in Eastern europe...
    when you can't beat your enemy militarily......take them out fiscally.....and bankrupt their economy

    i think there is a larger conspiracy here
    I swear Obama is Osama's brother.....whose intent was to destroy America's monetary system and cause insolvency

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    04-07-2009, 12:32 PM #42
    Quote Originally Posted by exilejeff View Post
    quoted from wikipedia

    "While Columbus had always given the conversion of non-believers as one reason for his explorations, he grew increasingly religious in his later years. He claimed to hear divine voices, lobbied for a new crusade to capture Jerusalem, often wore Franciscan habit, and described his explorations to the "paradise" as part of God's plan which would soon result in the Last Judgment and the end of the world"

    Mark 16:15
    "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation."

    he was just having fun while doing it
    Wikipedia is the information source of the ignorant. I never use it, unless I need to know how many cups are in a gallon, etc....
    Ive seen too many lies in it to even consider it a viable source for most topics. Follow the money on wikipedia as well, and you will find another reason I dont use or trust it.

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    04-07-2009, 12:33 PM #43
    Have you heard the theory that explains the universe being made in 6 days as it relates to the big bang theory Relmor?

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    04-07-2009, 12:36 PM #44
    Quote Originally Posted by buddylee View Post
    Have you heard the theory that explains the universe being made in 6 days as it relates to the big bang theory Relmor?
    Yes. But I take the bible literally, because there is no reason not too. The big bang theory(which I dont necessarily believe) actually supports christian ideology. One great occurance, caused by god, setting things in motion.... Etc...
    Evolution and creationsim contradict too much to be compatible theories. Creationism teaches life begat life.(God created everything, allowing for adaptation within his genetic code, (micro evolution or you may call it breeding or adaptation , etc..) and let it run. Evolution teaches life came from death. Polar opposites.

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    04-07-2009, 12:37 PM #45
    Quote Originally Posted by exilejeff View Post
    when you can't beat your enemy militarily......take them out fiscally.....and bankrupt their economy

    i think there is a larger conspiracy here
    I swear Obama is Osama's brother.....whose intent was to destroy America's monetary system and cause insolvency
    No that is hogwash...

    But i'll give you something better than that.Picture a little G.W.Bush and a young Osama Bin Laden playing together in a west texas oil field learning the bussiness while their fathers conduct bussiness on the ranch...The stories the Bin Ladens have on the Bush's are unfathomable to the american public.
    Hence he has never been captured and never will be captured alive...

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    04-07-2009, 12:38 PM #46
    Quote Originally Posted by relmor2003 View Post
    Wikipedia is the information source of the ignorant. I never use it, unless I need to know how many cups are in a gallon, etc....
    Ive seen too many lies in it to even consider it a viable source for most topics. Follow the money on wikipedia as well, and you will find another reason I dont use or trust it.
    but is normally a good source to find info fast.....i suppose i could look at some other sources that you may deem more intellectually respectible to prove that he was......but......

    i really don't get it.....instead of admitting some validity to the quote you throw it out completely as waste.....to assume it is not true, when it may be

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    04-07-2009, 12:39 PM #47
    "No, christians believe with god in your heart, and seeking to follow Jesus's path, as well as any man can, will automatically lead to good works(although not required).God doesnt want robots, but to choose to follow. The only way to heaven is to accept Jesus as your lord and savior. Doing that leads to other things. But first and foremost, but be the humble submission to your creator. With this humilty, true knowledge and understanding of the world becomes possible."
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    exactly only your little group of believers gets into heaven, any1 raised hindu or buddhist or my god muslim has no chance of going to heaven. even if they dedicated their entire life to helping the poor or some other really good deed. Im sorry but that is a very sad and small view of the world. The problem comes when u are so sure of your beliefs that u will condemn other people for not having them. Thats when religion crosses the line. Maybe you should have a little humility and admit to yourself the fact that there is always the possibility you could be dead wrong. I tend to think of humans as ants when it comes to god, how does an ant interpret a man walking over them and casting a shadown down on their little world, or a car rolling over an ant, how does he know wtf is going on. It's the same thing with god and man, if u feel better filling your head with this stuff good for you, as for me id rather accept what i dont know.
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    04-07-2009, 12:41 PM #48
    I find it odd that many of these theologans keep trying to find new ways to intertwine religion and science thinking that they may be able to convert a few people yet all the while contradicting many previous theories and actually turning off many believers.

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    04-07-2009, 12:43 PM #49
    Quote Originally Posted by relmor2003 View Post
    Ironic. I feel the greater offense, yet it is actually endorsed and funded by our tax system, is the stealing of our childrens souls by evolutionsist and the lies they spread. I would rather kill an evolutionist who talks a child out of being a godfearing adult(which of course I wouldnt), than for killing that child in the physical world(in which I also endorse the death penalty for). I think the lose of spirituality is much higher a problem.
    relmor that is about the most retarded statement i've heard in while.....

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    04-07-2009, 12:44 PM #50
    Quote Originally Posted by buddylee View Post
    I find it odd that many of these theologans keep trying to find new ways to intertwine religion and science thinking that they may be able to convert a few people yet all the while contradicting many previous theories and actually turning off many believers.
    My answer to that is that God or supreme being made life with Science and Science will find out how ,eventually...

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