Intraday OFFTOPIC Thread: Politics, Religion, Whatever. Enter at your own risk!

[Demian]

I beat all you bitches......I retired at 22!

I wasn't rich though.....

I travelled across the US and Canada in a VW camper van for many years.....

[Doctor_G]

I'm with ya JohnnyIrish. The rich were overextending trying to get richer and took advantage whenever they could in real estate. They indeed have their own share of the housing crisis to be held accountable to. Let's not forget who it was that opened Pandora's Box...it was Bill Clinton and many Dems answering to his call of bringing attention back to the "Community Reinvestment Act of 1977", in full force and on political steroids.

But you're right, it's almost never a "just" black or white theme to anything which takes place in DC. Enough blame to go around in all directioins and to all political affiliations.

[jelax]

Just one note Doc,don't forget the Rich who also got loans they shouldn't have,namely the flippers who ruined the resort and condo market,which is where it all really started in Calif,Ariz,Nevada and Fla...
My wife is a Mortgage Underwriter and she could tell you stories that would make your blood boil...just saying it wasn't all poor peolple as the MSM wants you to think,See Relmor the MSM covers for Republicans too..

Great point - been in the mortgage business for a while myself.

[Doctor_G]

hey johnny, dont u know poor people cause all the problems in this world. i gnored mr doctor after reading that nonsense. continues to label me. typical us vs them mentality.

You're coming across as a moron Trip. JohnnyIrish was agreeing with most of my post's premise. He was just rightfully pointing out that it wasn't quite as cut n dry as I had layed out.

[john]

You old fart B'astrd,you beat me by a year,Retired at 40....

Yea but I have two young kids and am 42 right now and very close to 43 right now. So it is not all peachs and cream. I keep thinking I will be almost 60 by the time the kids are gone off to school. That means I'll almost be dead before my wife and I can live again.

[Demian]

I've got a joke for you guys......

What did the 0 say to the 8?

Try to guess and I will tell you the punch line at the close....

Nice belt.....

I got that joke from a little kid....

[Quagmire23]

Thanks for the laugh Trip. Unlike you, I don't wear political glasses. I call a spade a spade. Is it my fault that Clinton pushed hard to have the "Community Reinvestment Act" initiated full force and spearheaded by folks like Sen Barney Frank and Franklin Raines (the former CEO of Fannie) to make loans available to as many minorities and low income folks as possible. In laymans terms...GIVE LOANS TO PEOPLE WHO HAD NO BUSINESS EVER GETTING A LOAN.

Was it Bill Clintons idea to reform welfare, or was it Newt Gingrich's? It wa Newt's vision, and wih the first Rep majority in nearly 50 yrs, the Reps reformed welfare, lowered taxes, and balanced the budget. To Clinton's credit, after numerous polls showed the American people overwhelmingly favored these bills, Clinton then regretably signed all these bills into law. In doing so, he pissed off a good deal of his own party in the process. The 90's unleashed America with true Conservative Reps in the Senate and in Congress.

The new millenia gave us GW, and 911. GW started off his tenoir with a conservative bang by lowering taxes. He then kept us all safe by not allowing one attack on our soil to preceed after 911. Here's where I differ greatly from someone like you Trip, I am able to call a spade a spade, regardless of my party loyalties...

After 911, the ONCE Conservative Reps began to spend like drunken sailors. Bush misplaced his veto-pen and allowed all the spending to take place. No words of balancing the budget ever passed the lips of the Reps or GW. Spend was the order of the day.GW and some Reps knew of the inevitable and pending Housing Crisis that was about to rear its ugly head in full force. Yet they spoke softly and gave us a warning in a whispe-tone, and in the end allowed it to happen...even though Clinton, Barney Frank, Mr Raines, and Sen Chris Dood all spearheaded the idea of loaning money top people who could NEVER pay it back.

The party I once admired, had fallen of the turnup truck, and became liberal type out of control spenders like the Dems. Rge Re;s didn't stop there, they went ahead and nominated a LIBERAL Rep by the name of John McCain to run for President.

Both partys have their demons. Unlike you liberals, I'm able to TRUTHFULLY critique all areas of govt, and certainly not the stereo-typical Dem vs Rep crap. The Rep Party began to leave me when Newt stepped down. Until they realize they need to stand for something, such as their roots of heritage, and actually preach conservatism and fiscal responsibility, they will stay the minority party. All areas of our government are corrupt and under seige. Until Americans start to demand the truth in politics, things won't change for the better any time soon.

I take a fact as a fact. Whereas Liberals drink the kool-aid and therfore their eyes are shut to the truth.

I think we struck the same chord in our posts (although in yours it's easy to see the conservative side bleed through ). One issue I would take up with you is the issue with home loans. We are not in this deep of a recession because of loans given to low-income/poor people or minorities. We are in it because of bad loans given and SOLD as proper to the middle-class. There are rich and poor, but the stability of this country rests with the middle-class. This recession was the culmination of the middle-class over-spending, fueled by programs that told them it was ok to do so. Banks were the primary driver of that, and the so-called liberal idea of regulation might have helped dampen what happened. Anyway, that bubble has burst, and that is why this recession is so:

A: Hard to see how deep it goes
B: Hard to find solutions to
C: Hard to reason an end to

Middle-class America got into credit trouble, stopped spending and fueled their own demise because in doing so caused companies to react to that void by cutting jobs and spending themselves. Stabilizing companies will not end this but is needed to help the turn-around (Hence is why I think proper restructuring, not complete destruction of companies like GM and other NON-BANKS are necessary). Only middle-class spending again will bring the end to this mess, and that may be awhile. Let's hope when it happens it's because some debt has been reduced by the middle-class and not because they are able to over-borrow again, as that to me is not a solution.

[john]

Nice belt.....

I got that joke from a little kid....

is that the one where 7, 8 (ate) 9.

[SIRI4LIFE]

WOW WOW WOW
I go away for one weekend and look what can happen!!!!!!!!
Just walked in the door from work to read all of your brilliant posts today. i must say Tripp by far takes the cake. I think me and him (yea thats right I said me and him NOT he and I for all of you conservative,liberal, left,right, whatever,PROPER FOLK.) I can't believe we can't use the term retards. THATS WHAT THEY ARE. If your short your short. This is where we are as a country F ed.
On the apprentice last night this woman couldn't be called a MOM. Yea you read that right! It was wrong for her to be called a MOM. Now the correct term is Woman with child or children. BULL%$IT We are headed the wrong way people. Only when she is home does she have her MOM hat on.
You people make me sick. (Not you Tripp. We could def hang) RETARDS

[trippingthespeculatingpos]

haha, SOMEBODY LIKES ME!!!!!!