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  1. john is offline
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    04-06-2009, 02:18 PM #91
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    i dont have time to argue with conservatives, ive been down that road. So the guys at the alamo were conservatives? interesting. Its pretty simple conservatives had 8 years to show how they could make america so much better. but guess what? the world only got worse with your so called conservatism. Now u are assigned to sit on the sidelines and bitch liek a little babey who just lost his ball for not playing nice. You are all RETARDED. specially choirgirl. Not that there's anything wrong with being retarded of course.


    Yep thats what happens when you show libs illogic and how dumb their point of view is, they run away stick their head back in the sand. Then they wonder why they get ripped apart and made to look like an idiot by a conservative.

    By the way I could only emagine how bad of shape we would be in if there were no tax cuts in effect during the 911 attacks that cost us 1.5 to 2 trillion in our economy. Yea I guess you think Gores tax increases would have put us in better shape. Also as to your Gitmo comment, I cant wait for the next attack and we find out one of the people Obama set free was one involved in it. I know that is drastic but maybe then you dumb asses will get your heads out of your asses. We are not talking about a guy who robs a gas station.

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    04-06-2009, 02:30 PM #92
    Quote Originally Posted by jelax View Post
    John,

    I'm actually a liberal but agree with your assessment of us liberals to some extent. With that being said, I wholeheartedly disagree that we need more babies on this planet that have no means of survival. Hence pro choice makes more sense than having welfare take care of our youth. Just a thought.


    Right now people are waiting years to be able to adopt. There are plenty of people that would be welling to take on that responsiblity. Now as for welfare it has already been proven if you dont want people to be on it then limit it, People will then find work. The proof is welfare reform, what happen is the rate of people on it went way down and they found work. It ended the cycle of cradle to grave welfare.

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    04-06-2009, 02:31 PM #93
    john i have never liked you, so why am i going to spend time writing out a 10 page response, you can shove it where the sun dont shine for all i care. people in american prisons are far more dangerous than any1 in gitmo.

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    04-06-2009, 02:39 PM #94
    Take the word conservatism out of the political arena, and it's a known and statistical FACT, that the majority of all Americans are far more conservative in their thinking and everyday life, than they are liberal. Amazing when you take "politics" out of the equation, and apply the true definition of conservative / conservatism...you find that the majority of the American people are actually conservative by nature.

    For you liberals out there, don't worry, we conservatives won't ram religion down your throats the same way your liberal court Judges LEGISLATE from the bench on matters such as gay marriage. And don't worry, our schools and our media are doing a fine job programing the majortity of all parents, so that when their 7 yr old asks them a question such as this at a WalMart store for example..."Mommy,why are those two men holding hands and kissing each other"? The parents of today will be equiped to answer with the politically correct answer such as..."Don't worry sweety, those two men are only defying NATURE, but rest assured, not their govt.

    I am so glad my kids are all grown. I would hate to have to raise kids in today's world. It wasn't too long ago when mothers giving birth out of wedlock was single digits. YEP. Single digits in the 1950's. Back to a time where people actually gave a damn about the family and family values...when compared to today.
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    04-06-2009, 02:44 PM #95
    Quote Originally Posted by trippingthespeculatingpos View Post
    john i have never liked you, so why am i going to spend time writing out a 10 page response, you can shove it where the sun dont shine for all i care. people in american prisons are far more dangerous than any1 in gitmo.
    You mean the same US Prison system that has more ILLEGAL ALIENS than US citizens in them???

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    04-06-2009, 02:50 PM #96
    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_G View Post

    For you liberals out there, don't worry, we conservatives won't ram religion down your throats the same way your liberal court Judges LEGISLATE from the bench on matters such as gay marriage. And don't worry, our schools and our media is doing a fine job programing the majortity of all parents, that when their 7 yr old asks them a question such as this at a WalMart store for example..."why are those two men holding hands and kissing each other"? The parents of today will be equiped to answer with the politically correct answer such as..."Don't worry sweety, those two men are only defying NATURE, but rest assured, not their govt.

    Gay dudes be born that way......did they chose to be that way?
    I've had women chew me up and spit me out, but it doesn't make me chose to be gay - because I'm not attracted to penises.....except for my own a little, I guess.

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    04-06-2009, 02:50 PM #97
    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    Right now people are waiting years to be able to adopt. There are plenty of people that would be welling to take on that responsiblity. Now as for welfare it has already been proven if you dont want people to be on it then limit it, People will then find work. The proof is welfare reform, what happen is the rate of people on it went way down and they found work. It ended the cycle of cradle to grave welfare.
    I hear you and agree with welfare reform. I do think the "cradle to the grave" is more a result of poor parenting and lack of education. You can put viable options(adoption) our there but that doesn't do much unless these mothers are willing to break the bond with "their" child. There are too many variables involved with women who have children and whether it's feasible vs realistic for them to choose adoption. So it seems like I will agree to disagree. Kind of like saying b/c we the stock market etc out there that people will invest vs investing in a savings account that earns less than inflation.
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    04-06-2009, 02:50 PM #98
    Quote Originally Posted by trippingthespeculatingpos View Post
    john i have never liked you, so why am i going to spend time writing out a 10 page response, you can shove it where the sun dont shine for all i care. people in american prisons are far more dangerous than any1 in gitmo.

    I can tell you, because I have the time to take each part of your 10 page response apart and make you and your whole liberial ideology sound stupid maybe enough that you yourself, say I cant believe I am part of that ideology.


    Case in point, how you can be in favor of killing babies and saving killers is beyond me, yet that is the liberials point of view. Make some sense of that one dip wad.



    Here is common sense;

    You can be in favor of abortion and in favor of the death penalty. Reason if you dont care about babies then you should not care about killers.


    You can be in favor of the death penalty and against abortion. Reason one has proven himself to be a killer and the other is a innocent.


    Now you try and make sense of your liberial position on those two.............Thats right you cant. Just like most of your positions and why you get your ass creamed when you debate a conservative.

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    04-06-2009, 02:54 PM #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Newman View Post
    Welcome all to the Intraday OFFTOPIC Thread. This section here is a work in progress. I want to keep as much of the OFF TOPIC chat in this thread here. If it does not directly relate to Sirius, but it deals with daily movements of the stock market or even other stocks, feel free to post it here. This thread is fair game to any and all conversation. (Yes, Including politics).

    We will make this a daily/weekly/monthly thread as demand dictates. Unless it gets out of hand, there will be no moderation within this thread. Enjoy, and let me know what you think.

    - Newman
    Holy Sheep Shi* Batman, Hey Newman you have done it now. I logged on around 2:30 EST to read some posts and realize there are some strong opinions out there (here). I am thinking about cancelling my cable and just reading this forum, well worth it.....LOL
    Demian, this pretty much is your fault you know. P.S. I see not everyone is behaving on the simply siri posting and I see a lot of the crap you wanted to stop.

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    04-06-2009, 02:54 PM #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Demian View Post
    Gay dudes be born that way......did they chose to be that way?
    I've had women chew me up and spit me out, but it doesn't make me chose to be gay - because I'm not attracted to penises.....except for my own a little, I guess.
    I guess there is another Penis that I think is attractive that I forgot to mention - but this one came from global warming........and who's responsible for that?

    http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article...0&in_page_id=2

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