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  1. SiriusHope is offline
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    03-30-2009, 07:06 PM #281
    Mr. Brandon

    tomorrow ends Q1 what is the earliest and latest dates in your opinion that SIRI can report results and is pps of late baked in for not so good results?

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    03-30-2009, 07:10 PM #282
    Quote Originally Posted by lloyd Handwerker View Post
    I quess that's why GM is trying to unload Hummer. No sales. LOL.
    I actually think the biggest problem with the prius is how people drive it. I see many on the interstate flying by me at 80 mph, negating the advantages of the hybrid. It ceases to be a hybrid at these speeds and operates like a standard 4 cyl. car. Advantage is lost.

    I am not a Hummer fan. I drive a Ford Super Duty pickup most of the time out of necsessity, for my business. I don't like driving 70K miles/yr. @ 13 MPG. I must tow heavy loads and frequent muddy construction sites so it is my ideal work vehicle. I drive a Suburu the rest of the time.

    Finally, a lot of people cringe when they see the phrase "trickle-down economics" but that is exactly how economies work in this world. Smart, ambitious people generate wealth, which is invested or spent. These funds trickle down to the average person, whether a landscaper, sales person, assembly line worker, etc. As evidence I offer the current "trickle-down" of the recession to the average person. Without the investment of capital, no jobs can be created.

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    03-30-2009, 07:16 PM #283
    Quote Originally Posted by SiriusHope View Post
    Who can we truly believe...both sides of the coin seem to be pumping product sales.
    A good question. I don't know. You can only read everything you can and make an informed decision.

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    03-30-2009, 07:19 PM #284
    Quote Originally Posted by bananaz View Post
    A good question. I don't know. You can only read everything you can and make an informed decision.
    i will stick with my cherry 1994 lincoln towncar with only 117k miles on it and 17 mpg around town. Cant beat the feel of nice big car thats sweet to ride the highway with. Those small cars made of recycled beer cans ain't worth a shit in an accident.

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    03-30-2009, 07:20 PM #285
    Quote Originally Posted by bananaz View Post
    I actually think the biggest problem with the prius is how people drive it. I see many on the interstate flying by me at 80 mph, negating the advantages of the hybrid. It ceases to be a hybrid at these speeds and operates like a standard 4 cyl. car. Advantage is lost.

    I am not a Hummer fan. I drive a Ford Super Duty pickup most of the time out of necsessity, for my business. I don't like driving 70K miles/yr. @ 13 MPG. I must tow heavy loads and frequent muddy construction sites so it is my ideal work vehicle. I drive a Suburu the rest of the time.

    Finally, a lot of people cringe when they see the phrase "trickle-down economics" but that is exactly how economies work in this world. Smart, ambitious people generate wealth, which is invested or spent. These funds trickle down to the average person, whether a landscaper, sales person, assembly line worker, etc. As evidence I offer the current "trickle-down" of the recession to the average person. Without the investment of capital, no jobs can be created.
    I am a small business owner of a film production company. I understand hiring workers and paying taxes etc. I work hard to make a living and employ other people. I dont oppose people accumulating wealth. People should benefit from their hard work. No one likes to pay more taxes. But What happened in the last 8 years or more was an unnaturally large redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the wealthy. It got out of kilter and needs rebalancing. Thats my opinion.

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    03-30-2009, 07:26 PM #286
    Its not hard. Huge corporations run this country. Policies in the way governments tax business's is 100 percent biased against the small business owner. Why would large corporations want small business's that might one day compete against their market share to survive? Easy, tax the crap out of them. And trust me, as a small business owner, they are taxing the crap out of me. Bush was taxing the crap out of me, and Obama will continue to tax the crap out of me. Until the people run the country, and not large corporations, and their interests, then its how it will always be. I have to lay off workers because of taxes I pay, and get nothing back for. THese taxes to not employ anyone, they just allow the govenment to spend more(any government job is a negative to society. The fewer government jobs the better our country.

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    03-30-2009, 07:28 PM #287
    Quote Originally Posted by SiriusHope View Post
    i will stick with my cherry 1994 lincoln towncar with only 117k miles on it and 17 mpg around town. Cant beat the feel of nice big car thats sweet to ride the highway with. Those small cars made of recycled beer cans ain't worth a shit in an accident.
    That prompts another question: How many miles would you have to drive a hybrid to save enough energy to make it worth scrapping your Lincoln? Quite a few, I'd wager......

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    03-30-2009, 07:28 PM #288
    Quote Originally Posted by relmor2003 View Post
    Its not hard. Huge corporations run this country. Policies in the way governments tax business's is 100 percent biased against the small business owner. Why would large corporations want small business's that might one day compete against their market share to survive? Easy, tax the crap out of them. And trust me, as a small business owner, they are taxing the crap out of me. Bush was taxing the crap out of me, and Obama will continue to tax the crap out of me. Until the people run the country, and not large corporations, and their interests, then its how it will always be. I have to lay off workers because of taxes I pay, and get nothing back for. THese taxes to not employ anyone, they just allow the govenment to spend more(any government job is a negative to society. The fewer government jobs the better our country.
    It's called CORPORATOCRACY..not a democracy practiced in this country!!!

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    03-30-2009, 07:30 PM #289
    Quote Originally Posted by bananaz View Post
    That prompts another question: How many miles would you have to drive a hybrid to save enough energy to make it worth scrapping your Lincoln? Quite a few, I'd wager......
    I kept my car well maintained throughout the years and will continue at a lower cost than any new car I can buy. Plus i save on insurance premiums and license plate registration fees.

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    03-30-2009, 07:31 PM #290
    Quote Originally Posted by Lithium24 View Post
    Raising taxes doesnt help the economy. Period.

    Im sorry I responded to you, its really a pointless endeavor. Enjoy your bliss.
    Going back and forth to find blame and put it on any one person or party is pointless and a waste of time....This problem is everyones fault....From giving up all of our local work to illegals.... instead buying things from the US we buy from countries that do respects or even like us but cater to us just for our money....Selling our homes for more than their actual value....including the commissions that are ammortized over 30 year loans....buying oil instead of finding and refining our own....people spending money the dont have...Given bounses that are not earned....Taken care of sicknesses and poor people from other countries while we have our own sick and poor here....The point is this train has been running full steam ahead for a very long time...and now its time to pay the pipper..... and as usual instead of people getting their asses in gear and getting to work to straighten out this mess its easier to try to find blame...So either your part of the problem or your part of the solution... For the last 30 years or longer we have all been part of the problem.....And now its time to become a responsible and accountable country and figure out how to fix and pay for all our mistakes.....America still is the greatest country in the world so people need to Love it...Get you asses back to work and make it ours again pay to fix all of our mistakes and if you dont want to contribute your share.... then those people should get the F++k out of here! So stop blaming it on Bush or Carter or Clinton or who ever... but when you look in the mirror you will proberly see who is to blame in one way or another.....All of us! Yes you too!
    PS...This is not pointed to anyone in particular but to actually all!

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