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  1. gina2009 is offline
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    03-06-2009, 12:26 PM #391
    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    Gina,
    you are so right, there is nothing more to say.


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    Lol John, Lol, I am being honest, Cos, has had lots of valid opinions and he brings a lot to this blog. I think it is good to agree to disagree, but the name calling is not cool! That is where I stand.


    Really, well I will just say this, you had better get a thicker skin. If you think I am going to change, I got news for you. Its not going to happen. I would suggest you just skip my post altogether because it gets worse trust me. Hey cos1000 or killerkaul why dont you tell them how much worse it can get.

    Ladies I suggest you dont read from here on.




    Now on to relmar, You really need to get a grip. First of all we are people that have said we are not professionals just people that have invested alot of time (as for money I dont know what some would call alot). So it is not the responsibility of any of us to take on the burden of anything of anyone else. I personally could careless if people read what I put up. I do it mainly so I can say latter "I told you so", because thats just who I am. As to anyone else that has a problem they can just piss off. Ladies that gos for you to.
    John no one is asking you to change, as usual just shared my view on what you said, so why don't u get a thicker skin as well!

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    03-06-2009, 12:34 PM #392
    Touche Gina! well said

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    03-06-2009, 12:36 PM #393
    just serius ..................... I mentioned in a previous post, that we enlisted the gerbil as a spy. He is currently behind enemy lines, gleaning any and all pertinent information for our battle leaders. It is rumored he is good with the knife............. he is due back on the full moon, and reports only to the Dog. Gina........... careful about the clothing remarks........ the black suit and HIGH HEELS, set the Dog off howling. LOL ............. you should know...... he is the alpha male......... .... killer.

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    03-06-2009, 12:44 PM #394
    ....Oh Gina................. I forgot to mention............. 888's is a pig................ however, that said, we wouldn't have him any other way. He is, after all, one of the Dog's most trusted battle commanders................... .. killer.

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    03-06-2009, 12:45 PM #395
    Quote Originally Posted by sl62 View Post
    cos1000...

    One heluva week eh? Soooo much drama. I think we all agree that Brandon is the real perp here and that is not to be lost sight of. He did something nasty and should be taken out back for it LOL . And that he is a spy rather than a free or independent thinker...if not just an outright sheeple. And from there, I think we all agree moving right along is the best way to go.

    I have a question related to this but not through the same door we are closing. I'm confused by something that Brandon wrote and you just wrote again today. Maybe you can shed some light on this cause I can't seem to find this as fact anywhere. You reiterated today:

    >>The May debt now has to be resolved before the 17th of March to avoid a default per the "going concern" paragraph. <<
    I think it is assumed that once the May debt is refinanced that KPMG will remove the "going concern" language from the Annual report. It doesn't SAY that, but it's sort of insinuated.

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    03-06-2009, 12:51 PM #396
    Quote Originally Posted by relmor2003 View Post
    Old news. I retraced the "personal angle" from my comments. But hes still wrong, and did instigate the writting of a sensationalist piece from Brandon. He doesnt agree with the article, yet hes to blame for it being written, to a degree. Live with it. Its on his head. If anyone sells out because of it, and doesnt get back in, he will be guilty of the consequences just like anyone else who posts on here, and effects perceptions. When I was screaming at people to not sell at .10 cents, .08 cents. .03 cents, could I have been wrong, costly people thousands of dollars? yes, i could have been. But I was willing to live with the consequences. Round and Stubby, and others were attacking my views, telling me im dumb, and people were stupid for being in this stock. They are responsible for there views as well. If your going to start a thread that causes a sensationalist negative and completely wrong article to be written, and I am now over there defending the other side, much to my disgust, I dont want to post over there but feel obligated too now, then you have to live with the consequences. Other wise go live under a rock, and dont communicate with the world if you want to be blameles.. Every action has consequences, and everyone must deal with those consequences. Go back and re read the thread. He has his chances earlier to disfuse the angle of bk being emminent, and adds to it. Only later does he retrace a bit. People were jumping ship on his call, not Brandons. Brandon took it one step further, yes, but thats Brandon. What else would you expect from him? I guess I expect more from cos1000, thats all.
    Actually the more I go back and re read the posts, the more blame I place on him for its effects, and not Brandons. He hands Brandon the gun. Brandon pulled the trigger. You want to debate philsophically the implications of "handing someone a gun vs. pulling the trigger" Im more than ready.

    O, and I attack anyone hard that makes people sell out at .13 cents. Ridiculous. In fact I was nice to him vs. others who have tried. ANd i stated that I took it easy on him during the process, because I respected him in the past.

    well i'll give you that...I've seen you crucify other naysayers and in comparison you were light on cos. i totally disagree on having to take responsibility for influencing other people's decisions or giving brandon a loaded gun. do we all not have a mind of our own? bottom line is we take in the information, process it, and then act on our own volition. you're getting scary relmor with this type of talk. so what if the company did go bk and lots of people lost their shirt because they listened to you to hang in there...you say you take full responsibilty...ha ha ha ha....what r u gonna do pay back their loss? that's a bunch of bs. your guidance is just one opinion and nothing more...what people do with it is up to them and you, or cos, are not on the hook one way or another. case closed!!!

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    03-06-2009, 01:00 PM #397
    Quote Originally Posted by killerkaul View Post
    ....Oh Gina................. I forgot to mention............. 888's is a pig................ however, that said, we wouldn't have him any other way. He is, after all, one of the Dog's most trusted battle commanders................... .. killer.
    agreed Killer, I like everyone the way they are, that is what makes this blog so interesting at times. I swear never would try to change anyone. I like him the way he is too, and I don't think my comment was harsh but if it is than ooopsy! As for blue tell him am taking the day off so my sweats are not worth the howling over! however I will be hiding behind that wall just encase!

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    03-06-2009, 01:03 PM #398
    Quote Originally Posted by NewtoSirius View Post
    Touche Gina! well said

    Thanks Man!! Gina

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    03-06-2009, 01:03 PM #399
    Quote Originally Posted by mydogniles View Post
    well i'll give you that...I've seen you crucify other naysayers and in comparison you were light on cos. i totally disagree on having to take responsibility for influencing other people's decisions or giving brandon a loaded gun. do we all not have a mind of our own? bottom line is we take in the information, process it, and then act on our own volition. you're getting scary relmor with this type of talk. so what if the company did go bk and lots of people lost their shirt because they listened to you to hang in there...you say you take full responsibilty...ha ha ha ha....what r u gonna do pay back their loss? that's a bunch of bs. your guidance is just one opinion and nothing more...what people do with it is up to them and you, or cos, are not on the hook one way or another. case closed!!!
    If they did go BK, I accept the guilt of affecting other peoples opinion in money matters. Yes. I have to live with that. Just like short and stubby have to live with convincing someone to sell at .03 cents, when .25 was offered not 2 days later. Thats a 800% swing. Pretty big money, IMVHO. Would I give them their money back...
    Of course not. But nor is Jim Cramer for going on TV and telling everyone you "have a $5 stock" when he knew for a fact their was a consolidated short interest in the stock mounting, that would prevent any run ups from sticking, and the stock was doomed to be sub $2 in a matter of days post merger. Is he going to give people their money back? Of course not. Its NITE going to feel sorry for throwing huge blocks up at crucial moments to send the price back down? of course not. But I am here offering advice to help people see the manipulation that goes on in any stock that is high profile, and especially one with so much at stake. Your wrong. You are responsible for everything you say and do in your life. If you dont want that responsibility, go live under a rock, and dont communicate with the world. Butterfly effect. If you throw a wrapper out a window, that ends up one day causeing a car to skip off the road, and kill a person, you are 100 percent responsible for that death. You can say, I just littered....
    Well, true, but your littering cause consequences. Living causes consequences. Period. Not saying the act of littering is evil, and it is an extreme example, but its still an "act with consequences". No one is blameless in the world.
    Intentions and being "blameless" are two different things.
    Intentions are one thing, but regardless of your "intentions" your words and actions still have consequences. What is the intention of littering? Simply to get rid of an unwanted piece of trash. Are you guilty of causing the death? Yes. Are you evil for littering? No. You were wrong to, but even if it was legal to litter, your still guilty of your action. Period. Live with it. Its called life.
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    03-06-2009, 01:06 PM #400
    Quote Originally Posted by sl62 View Post
    cos1000...

    My question above is not a general one. I realize of course a going concern clause can trip default covenants on any debt (although waivers are granted all the time)..but it's specifically the May Bank you allude to needing to be done by this 17th that is my question...

    Regarding the deal generally...short of any direct allusion in language, I believe this deal is complex with many moving parts that are all intertwined. It appears to me, this deal gets done almost in unison rather than 'first this, then this then this' (ahead of the actual necessary logical triggering)..since so many items rely on one or even two other things happening..I see it as a final 'greenlighted' deal where then all parts go into triggering in the most logical order.. IMHO..
    I think he is referring to the idea that the JPM extension must be be completed before Liberty will buy the other $100 mil debt and the auditors can exclude the going concern language. This would mean that all of the May debt is handled by the 17th. As you say, I think it's a matter of getting everything to fall into place concurrently.

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