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  1. cos1000 is offline
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    03-04-2009, 11:33 PM #121
    s162, I think you misunderstand my perspective.... Nowhere here have I said that the company, Mel, had any intentions of taking the company into BK. What I have said is that this deal is contingent on them getting the $250M, JPM Bank Debt taken care of. Either get it extended at reasonable (in this environment) terms, or find a way to pay it off. I also stated what is in front of us, not speculation. I stated that the May debt due date is irrelevant, and this Going Concern contingency on Malone / Liberty deal has moved it up to being taken care of before the March 17th, 10K file date. I have not raised these issues to cause "Fear", but rather to discuss the facts as they are being presented. There has been a good discussion....

    The SP as .13 - .14 is as you say, waiting for the outcome... Today's trading was under 14M shares on an otherwise up day on the general markets... My take was to get 1/3 back in from what I took of the table Friday. I got back at .1302 yesterday. I still am concerned that this Deal Is NOT Done..... That is my opinion..... Regardless of how many times we see language in documents like this, It is This time and This Document that Malone's / Liberty money is on the line with... Mel and Company have managed to not get it done, just when we thought he had gotten it done.... until these bothersome details just happen to come out while filing his 10K extension.... NICE JOB MEL..... We are sitting here after all this time, waiting for Mel to get the May debt done... Great.... I'm not going to dispute that Mel is doing everything he needs to do to have a positive outcome.... but he doesn't have one yet....

    Quote Originally Posted by sl62 View Post
    cos1000...

    I have to respectfully disagree with you about the SP where it relates to the 12b negativity. I'm sorry but .13/.1399/.14 (which has now held through the release of that document and it's contents) and with clearly more buying action (or covering, whichever) than selling, is not where this SP would be if the Street, shorts, etc.. truely believed this deal was in jeapordy of getting done. It would be holding at .08/.09/.10. IMHO...

    And why? The Street is following Liberty on this not SIRI. No one in the Liberty camp, Malone/Maffei, nobody, has raised one issue of doubt about this deal. If they had even a clue that this wasn't but a formality, I'm confident something would have leaked out and of course SIRI would be out back as we speak. The stock action of the last 10 days has not been trending negative..rather, it's been more positive. I look at this SP as deal pending hold.

    The other issue I forgot in my rant (sorry LOL) is why in the world would Mel go to the trouble of getting that crucial NASD special dispensation to circumvent a shareholder vote on this deal, if BK was just the next step? Sorry, I just don't buy it... JMHO

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    03-04-2009, 11:34 PM #122
    I agree with sl62 that Mel is not running this company with the intent to BK. Check the vid, he is a good guy...

    http://www.reuters.com/resources/fla...7916806746.flv

    However I have continued my "puking feeling" of feb 17th lol...

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    03-04-2009, 11:37 PM #123
    Quote Originally Posted by cos1000 View Post
    imromo24,

    thanks for that ...... always fascinating to hear the origin of the phrases we adopt as our own....
    no prob. that definition motivated me to look closer at this situation and my position. im going to sleep on it, but im sure im adding tomorrow.

    the history is: Pray to god for help, but keep some dry (gun) powder as insurance (in case god doesn't come through in time, lol)

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    03-04-2009, 11:37 PM #124
    Quote Originally Posted by Hopeful View Post
    I agree with sl62 that Mel is not running this company with the intent to BK. Check the vid, he is a good guy...

    http://www.reuters.com/resources/fla...7916806746.flv

    However I have continued my "puking feeling" of feb 17th lol...
    Well I'll just do what I did last time, make a few stiff drinks. Hopefully I'll black out, wake up on March 18th, and all will be right with the universe.

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    03-04-2009, 11:40 PM #125
    Baba...

    Cool. Those steamers were (and that one is) very majestic. My ride is the Cutty, last of the great clippers...hailing fron the windy city, more than appropos I use the sails. We can't have too many cool boats to secure safe passage for the SIRI commoners LOL...

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    03-04-2009, 11:40 PM #126
    Should be easy to do Hughes- March 17th is St. paddies day so that'll help, no?

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    03-04-2009, 11:40 PM #127
    Hughes I am with you man!!! Coma time, bring out the black tar heroin!!! Not literally of course........

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    03-04-2009, 11:42 PM #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Matthews View Post
    I have been at this PC for about 14 straight hours. I had Joe Clayton for some reason on Liberty's board rather than echostars...then I realized the screw up...
    Sorry man, Im just messin with ya. You need thick skin with me, dont take me too seriously. Im Greek, my family yelled at each other every day to communicate. NO worries bro.

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    03-04-2009, 11:43 PM #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Hughes View Post
    Well I'll just do what I did last time, make a few stiff drinks. Hopefully I'll black out, wake up on March 18th, and all will be right with the universe.
    i'm new to posting on here although i have been peeking for over a year, right now u have come up with the best idea to deal with this pig stock.....thanks

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    03-04-2009, 11:43 PM #130
    Quote Originally Posted by sl62 View Post
    Baba...

    Cool. Those steamers were (and that one is) very majestic. My ride is the Cutty, last of the great clippers...hailing fron the windy city, more than appropos I use the sails. We can't have too many cool boats to secure safe passage for the SIRI commoners LOL...
    Steerage to First Class...God bless each and every one.
    (OK ... so I'm no Charles Dickens)

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