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    03-04-2009, 02:37 PM #271
    mogami, I am just saying the picture gave me the hebby jebies alright. If the kid is 2 and under ok a naked picture looks ok but I draw the line at 3 and over being cute.

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    03-04-2009, 02:37 PM #272
    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    Wolf Child, SIRIXM royalty payments are solely based on their revenue. That was a huge point of the law suits and their contracts with RIMM, ect. a little while back. That is also one of the reasons XMSR did not have FCF for the 4th Q of 2007 it was mostly defered till that quarter.
    Interesting. Thank you.

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    03-04-2009, 02:38 PM #273
    asm...

    Thank you! Like that one much betta..other one was making me uncomfy..

    163888 right on the mula...

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    03-04-2009, 02:41 PM #274
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    I don't know about Sandra the movie maker. I'm skeptical not about her but how this becomes a piece anyone but those involved are interested in. Reminds me of Hartlieb. Look at that guy. FoxBN even gave his "suit" air time and he came off looking like a whiny beatch. Look. We ALL know, or if you don't by now you should do the research, the gory details of this scenario. They are in the 7/30 prospectus. And they're all perfectly legal. Serious due diligence was needed for anyone still in this stock after the revalue and most of didn't realize the extent of that burden of due diligence. Which always falls on the shoulders of the investOR not the investEE. Period. Too many got into the blame game when anyone who has lost any kind of money have only themselves, not to blame, but to look to in the mirror. Wall Street is not a game for the lighthearted. And unless moviemaker is going to take on all of Wall Street itself (a la a Roger and Me) or all MSM and how they daily manipulate and spin just about everything in life itself, I see little compulsion to this particular story apart from any other in this recent complete financial meltdown. GE @ a 5 handle..now there's a story!! I see our fight as a personal one (within a community) that has its own throughline that will play out not on a screen,, but in places like Sirius Buzz and in our portfolios. That's my take anyway at this point..so if you guys go ahead that's cool, I'm probably out. I'm no Lonesome Rhodes nor do I want to be..I just want to stay focused on what I'm doing here..at least for now.
    No no no sl62.
    If the short was well entrenched prior to the merger, and Mel did the "bad deal" to avoid NAB injunction, then its "shotgun barrel financing". P.I.P.E. Like loan. If the same shorts were in place that offered the loan(GS, etc...) then we know who gained from Sirius having to "hurry" with closing the merger. Im sorry, but that deal was "death" to all long stockholders, which Mel promised would offer great "shareholder value" if consimated. NO there is criminal adtivity involved in this from day 1(merger approval is day 1). Any CEO would rather lose the merger than take a deal the GUARANTEES BK UNLESS A MIRACLE THIRD PARTY INVESTOR SAVES THEM. Sirius was not in dire financial trouble at the time, and they are now. I think I could win in court very easily.
    XM would have been bought out, or bk right now. Who buys them out? A dead weight entitiy with huge contracts? Ya right. And you only get bandwidth for SATRD. Cant even use it for TV. So who buys them? Sirius, thats who. On the cheap. From Day 1 we were screwed by Mel. Mel should be in jail, but like I said before, if his end game involves taking this stock price up from the floor, and rebounds, then I will forgive him. He has 2 quarters to show me the money. Then I join Mr. Harlieb.(if hes legit, which i doubt it. I will file and start my own legal action). If we dont get gains in 2 quarters, you see the direction. Mel will hold the sp down to take it private when hes ready. No gains to be had.
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    03-04-2009, 02:41 PM #275
    gotta roll dudes..bbl

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    03-04-2009, 02:43 PM #276
    S-162

    I tend to agree with your take on the public interest in one of virtually all market stocks that have been taken down.

    I don't see any public interest in the misfortunes of investors at all, except for the investor community so the audience for this is quite limited.Then when you delve into the splits in the invest-community regarding stocks trading under a dollar and media stocks in general, the audience gets even tighter.

    Then you segment out radio stocks we have really pared it down to only a limited subgroup.

    Just my thoughts..............

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    03-04-2009, 02:45 PM #277
    I agree, that kid looks cute is that the other kids brother, LOL



    I am sorry asm I had to do it the laugh is were it is at for me.

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    03-04-2009, 02:46 PM #278
    All,

    I encourage folks to go here:

    http://ir.libertymedia.com/phoenix.z...138&p=irol-sec

    and read what is going on. It makes me believe even more firmly that Mel showed Malone some really good numbers before they made the deal. I don't think after reading some of the information in their filings.....and about their plans...that they would have taken on this agreement with SIRI if the risk was very substantial..... though they sure hedged their bet with the loan premium.

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    03-04-2009, 02:46 PM #279
    Mel overpaid for XM. CEO of AMD lost his job for overpaying for ATI. Why shouldnt Mel lose his job to Ergen for overpaying for XM? Ergen would have bought out stockholders, and cleaned the balance sheet. Would have been great. But no, Mel screws us twice. Once with the merger, then with the fake BK.

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    03-04-2009, 02:49 PM #280
    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    mogami, I am just saying the picture gave me the hebby jebies alright. If the kid is 2 and under ok a naked picture looks ok but I draw the line at 3 and over being cute.
    John,

    He was 2 in the original pic...he's 3 in this one, taken this past Christmas.

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