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  1. trippingthespeculatingpos is offline
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    01-28-2009, 10:19 PM #151
    im thinking we can break .13 for a bit before we settle back down, like we did today with .12

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    01-29-2009, 12:28 AM #152
    You know, I was reading that article and I thought of something:

    Everyone and their mother's that shuns satellite radio brings up free internet radio and the soon-to-be car internet services. Here are my thoughts:

    The government has already put limits on what can go on a dashboard. What do I mean? I mean that I cannot opperate my navigation system while driving because of government regulation. I cannot watch a DVD on my front seat screen while the car is in gear because of government regulation.

    Once all of these cars have internet and free internet radio, how are the internet sites going to support themselves? Do you think the government is going to let them play visual adds that could potentially distract the driver? Of course not! They will have to go to verbal adds, and then you have terrestrial radio all over again, just over an internet connection (and probably just as bad reception).

    I don't think internet radio will change anything when and if it hits cars.

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    01-29-2009, 12:36 AM #153
    That is some great reasoning, Newman

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    01-29-2009, 12:39 AM #154
    It makes since...

    You either have an internet service with commericals (terrestrial radio wanna-be) or you have an internet service with subscription fees (SatRad wanna-be). The only difference of couse is you still have the limitation of internet connections only available where wi-fi is. Cross-country drives will still be useless unless they have a hard drive with one hell of a cache to store music.

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    01-29-2009, 12:58 AM #155
    Quote Originally Posted by Newman View Post
    It makes since...

    You either have an internet service with commericals (terrestrial radio wanna-be) or you have an internet service with subscription fees (SatRad wanna-be). The only difference of couse is you still have the limitation of internet connections only available where wi-fi is. Cross-country drives will still be useless unless they have a hard drive with one hell of a cache to store music.
    Exactly Newman!! People don't think about it until they are driving through the middle of Nebraska, try that drive without SAT/RAD!!

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    01-29-2009, 02:15 AM #156
    Quote Originally Posted by dread View Post
    Exactly Newman!! People don't think about it until they are driving through the middle of Nebraska, try that drive without SAT/RAD!!
    I agree Dread. Spot on. I can get SIRI from here to hell and back without interruptions. Internet music sucks anyway. Streaming is not that perfected. They can't even get bandwidth right, so don't sweat it. Satellites dictate.

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    01-29-2009, 08:23 AM #157
    I'll jump on board.

    Internet radio may fill a void for the very few technically savvy. Sirius XM has the ball with market penetration with in vehicle devices.

    Customers want out of the box connectivity. Anyone know someone over 50 (excluding site members of course unless you want to volunteer comment) who is going to figure out how to connect their bluetooth phone to the radio, find the internet on the phone, then login to a radio website and stream free internet radio (with their unlimited data package which is needed also) Then a crappy song or commercial comes on and they have to reach up to the phone to find another website.

    If all this challenge sounds fun, or someone has a way to make it simple, its not happening anytime before Sirius XM's market penetration makes it the lasting staple.

    Just think HDTV. I've had HDTV for 6 years. Every, and i mean every, person i met that bought an early HDTV thought they were watching HDTV wasn't (5 families or so) Because you have to have Component or HDMI or DVI cables hooked up, you have to have an HD tuner, you have to have the TV set to 1080 or 720, you have to have the receiver set to output 720 or 1080, you have to acknowledge in the menu which input your using for the TV. Your satellite dish has to have 3lnbs. And finally I say...you have to pay your cable or satellite to send you the HD signal (unless you get it off the air which most people don't know either)

    I could go on...the point is, If its not plug and play, people wont use it.

    f*ck, who wants their phone to ring and interupt a sweet song thats streaming free internet over that same phone, especially if its the first song after a commercial, LOL
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    01-29-2009, 08:30 AM #158
    In response to above, i thought a minute.

    What if the phone was built into the radio? and that was used to connect to the cell networks.

    The coverage would still be spotty, it would be expensive, and finding stations would still be the same difficulty.

    something to think about though.

    The good thing is Mel has already stated, "we are not a satellite company, we are a media company that uses satellites to broadcast" They also use the internet and just made a move to increase revenue which will lead to more innovation, guaranteed.

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    01-29-2009, 08:42 AM #159
    I'll jump on board.

    Internet radio may fill a void for the very few technically savvy. Sirius XM has the ball with market penetration with in vehicle devices.

    Customers want out of the box connectivity. Anyone know someone over 50 who is going to figure out how to connect their bluetooth phone to the radio, find the internet on the phone, then login to a radio website and stream free internet radio (with there unlimited data package which is needed also) Then a crappy song or commercial comes on and they have to reach up to the phone to find another website.

    If all this challenge sounds fun, or someone has a way to make it simple, its not happening anytime before Sirius XM's market penetration makes it the lasting staple.

    Just think HDTV. I've had HDTV for 6 years. Every, and i mean every, person i met that bought an early HDTV thought they were watching HDTV wasn't (5 families or so) Because you have to have Component or HDMI or DVI cables hooked up, you have to have an HD tuner, you have to have the TV set to 1080 or 720, you have to have the receiver set to output 720 or 1080, you have to acknowledge in the menu which input your using for the TV. Your satellite dish has to have 3lnbs. And finally I say...you have to pay your cable or satellite to send you the HD signal (unless you get it off the air which most people don't know either)

    I could go on...the point is, If its not plug and play, people wont use it.

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    01-29-2009, 09:01 AM #160
    Here is the bottom line, SiriusXM is the ONLY company with a business model. Slacker, Pandora, Internet Radio, etc, have NO revenue stream to support their continuing existence. On that note, why is this company trading at .11? The question that needs to be addressed here that nobody wants to confront is; Who is manipulating this stock? Once this question is answered, then all will fall into place.

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