and i think that is called Paganism
Whats shocking exilejeff, is its similarities to the Babalonian and Sumerian mythos structures and concepts. Almost like, geee, I dont know, it all came from the same source. Hmm.... Maybe theres something to this bible after all...:D
Myian pyramids are awfully similar to Egyptian pyramids, etc...
I have a hunder examples....
Asian myths too, they all have commonalities that cannot be explained geographically.
I have a friend that was Catholic and used the rhythm method and he had 5 kids in like 5 years......I don't think it's a very dependable family planning method.
The ironic thing is that the girl I was dating at the time was a devout Catholic and she had no problem with sex or the morning after pill. She would come home from church and have sex with me. I would ask her if she would have to go to confession and what not for having sex with me and she said that God didn't care about that and that keeping her heart pure was more important. She was a very kind and sweet girl and had a lot of love in her heart...
Well your one example proves everything then. I have a perfect record with the method to date. And should work better than using a condom on a hot day. Must had a woman who didnt know her own body, or her cycle changed all the time. Not sure. But whatever, lol. Dont want to get into this interesting side note. So lets just say I gave you an answer that works. If you dont like it, then I dont know what to tell you. Im glad you met a catholic girl who liked to fool around. Thats a rare commodity:rolleyes:;)
devout? to what? going to church every Sunday? or to the religious beliefs that go along with what she claims to follow?
don't know what kind of catholic she is but im guessing she is coming up with a completely new one if she thinks God doesn't care about it, premarital sex and contraception
i don't doubt she was a nice girl.........but devout in the catholic beliefs....i do
Back when I was traveling across the US and Canada in a VW camper van all of those years, I spent a few weeks in North Dakota one summer. It was during the Sundance season and I observed several Sundances on different reservations. The indians were so kind to me and let me park my van on their land for as long as I wanted and would offer to share anything they had with me. They let me hang out and observe everything as long as I wanted and never tried to convert or "save" me....
Those Sundance ceremonies are a trip. They dance around in the hot sun all day with no food or water praying for days. They pierce their skin and tie themselves with rope to this tree in the center and dance around all day in the burning hot sun. They also give flesh offerings. Little kids do to. It's their way of praying and practicing their faith. Some of it was really disturbing to me and hard to understand. They had this one ceremony where they boiled this little baby puppy dog and then they all lined up and the elders would eat some of it first and then hand out pieces of it to everyone.....it was viewed as sacred medicine.
It was very disturbing and seemed quite barbaric to me, but I was struck by the kindness and purity of heart that everyone had. Everyone was so kind to me and never expected anything in return. They had an amazing sense of humor too and would have me laughing so hard. I did go into a few sweat lodges with them at their request and smoked the peace pipe with them...
I left North Dakota very perplexed and confused but carried with me all of the kindness and warmth that everyone had shown me...
yeah ive been to south dakota, my uncle lived on a reservation out there, never seen anything that crazy, although it was quite beautiful out there in the summer.
::watches the clock tick closer and closer to 5 O'clock, awaiting his liberation from the walls littered with thumbtacks, and the dual screened glow burned into his eyes::
One thing that I like about the Native American culture is that they have a lot of respect for nature and their elders. They don't discard older people and the wisdom that they possess the way the majority do in America...
The benefits of having this off-topic intraday thread right next to the main intraday thread are very clear. It has cut down the off-topic posts in the main intraday thread by a huge margin. There are now like two thirds less posts in the main intraday thread - making it much more concise, timely, manageable and readable. People don't respond well to censorship and I think this is the best alternative for keeping the main intraday thread sane, while also preserving the sense of community and freedom that members of this board seem to want...
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Ya, I love their sweat tents, that can actually kill you. And their use of powerful psycholdelic drugs, that can cause dangerous episodes. And I love their belief that seeing a coyote is bad luck(worked with many a Navajo). They also dont respect nature, they go further. They whorship it. Paul warns against this corruption of the line between nature and God. True, Gods evidence of his creation is in all things, but you dont worship the creation, you worship the creator.
Romans 1:25
"Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed and for ever."
Common pagan tradition to do this. American Indans werent the first, and they wont be the last. Now once again, Im not damning them, just pointing it out. Im sure theres some wonderful Native Americans that are spiritual that actually dont believe that the coyote is a bad omen, or believe that they must ingest powerful drugs to become spiritually enlightened. Im sure they are friendly. Being friendly and in touch with nature isnt enough however. But both excellent qualities. Im sure David Koresh was also friendly to his people, and loved the grass.