Wow it must be nice to be able to be a moderator to edit your posts and not have to add the edit time and date to it. Your above quote was NOT the one I responded to. I'm gone, delete my account I will never be posting here again. You pompous ass!
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I had to leave for a while....it was too intense in here. Now it is like the "Day After" with a few survivors and mild radiation and some hair falling out.
I don't see any signs of Tripps. That is ok, I will email him.
Ray, Tony and I say, Hello Tripps!
Newman, I didn't get your email....read your PM when you get a chance.
Have a great trading day and a pleasant evening,
Bill
what the hell are you talking about Joeboo? I honestly do not know. If you think that I changed one of my posts, tell me how I changed it? As you can see, my edits show up, just like yours. The only way the edit line does not show up is if nobody has read it. I do not control if it gets added or not, the system does it automatically.
Tell me what I changed... or at least tell me what the hell you are talking about.
By the way all: Since Friday April 10th is a trading holiday and the markets are closed, this thread will remain open throughout the weekend.
Thanks, and have a great holiday!!
Newman, good post and all valid points. You know.. I only have what, only 90 posts? Believe me, I've probably deleted/cancelled 3 times as many. Many of them because it's hard to make a point when you also see the other side...
To answer your sports example (and one I keep harping on). I thought about the paying out money for all the sports issue, but if they all only charged 10 bucks for the season, that is, worst case, what 70 bucks for the year? Also, the new MLB app is on several platforms, not just the ipod and it is full featured whereas Sirius is just a listening experience. Here is my point, for the current timeframe (09 and 10): I feel Sirius will lose subs for those people who want the full experience that the new sports apps present and are consistently around 3g coverage/wireless coverage and don't care about the other content (happy with their songs or pandora, whatever). There will be some people that fit in that category.... Especially in the city. What will that number be?
Maybe that number is small, but then now we get to what is Sirius XM going to do to bring in new subscribers? If it is a recovering OEM market. Fine. If that is what they are going to count on, then fine. That's probably good for a over 1.00 SP and like Cos, I'm out at some point.
To me Sirius XM is like Web 1.0. I want to know that Sirius XM is working on SXM 2.0. Charles is supremely frustrated by this lack of transparency or lack of information from the company, as is everyone else who has been in this stock for over a year.
I'd like to continue the dialog on what is possible... what "could" Sirius XM be working on Marketing-wise, Hardware-wise?
Newman, I agree that right now, Sirius is a sort of "store front", but that will change as all these unique content providers decide they can make money going it on their own. Sure, MLB will take money from Sirius to broadcast over Satellite, they would be stupid not to... but they, and others won't be giving in on the internet side. Short term... 2,3,maybe 4 years, That might "not" be a problem, but unless Sirius start coming up with something really unique (content/hardware).... now.... they are going to be seriously hurting in a few years.
Nows the time to start working on locking in Content... The economy is crap, and everyone is hurting, so they should be leveraging their current position as a content leader and get some things locked in (Costs money.... I know)
Hardware: they need to come up with some cool stuff and quick. That new Kindle book reader uses the Sprint network for broadband access to download e-books. Sprint has been hurting lately, so I bet Kindle got a sweet deal. An idea maybe would be for Sirius to come up with a new piece of hardware that combines a Satellite receiver and wireless broadband with a limited access to say maybe the Sirius Web feed and all the sports sites. Satellite coverage when you need it, Internet access when you want it.
How about a total revamp of their web-sites and web based products? Something provides more interactivity with subscribers. How about allowing the subscriber to log in with a profile that allows him to get notifications when certain bands or songs are playing.... lots of ideas to get people interested in a Sirius XM community.
The question is.... what in the hell are they working on?
Top 5 Priorities for Sirius XM in 2009
I don't know if anyone might have missed this article about a month ago. I agree with many of the frustrations that Charles and many of you have. Their lack of innovation over the past 3 years or so has been rediculous. XM releases one of the best portables around, but does not install something as simple as WiFi capabilities in it? Sirius had WiFi in their portables for years.
The merger has been complete for nearly 9 months and they still have two totally seperate websites with no indication other than the occasional "Best Of" banner to show that they are merged?
The iStore has been open for HOW LONG and they are just now coming up with an iPhone app? And STILL no blackberry or any other wireless app? Other companies (3rd party developers) are coming up with apps left and right for SiriusXM... and they turn around and block the StarPlayr app? COME ON!
Perhaps I am giving Sirius XM too much credit in the previous posts. As I said before, their success and eventual future and survival depend on them adapting to changing technology, sooner rather than later. The future is right in front of us. We can all see it, and SiriusXM can see it as well. Will they make the adjustments necessary?
They need to let us know...
Must admit, even the simple issue/concept of migrating into new digital distribution gateways/paths for end user access has been a failure within sirius for some reason.. what ever the reason, management has also failed to inform its retail shareholders and users.
if it was do to management foresight based on the knowledge of the further consolidation and failures within the legacy broadcasting area and the unknown related effects of the digital copy right issues that would be the type of acceptable information that one could understand and maybe accept..
Beach...you have a great one too. Unfortunately, I stilll have to work for a living and may actually have to work over the weekend. Gotta do whatever it takes. Besides..each day takes me a little closer hopefully to being able to help those less fortunate than myself with god's assistance.
Charles, the point was while you may fancy yourself as an editor, you dont have the talent or the skill to be one. I guess just because it is your site you can call yourself whatever you want though.
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Originally Posted by Correction, I talk that to you like that... not everyone because, that is what [I
Charles, The reason you talk to me that way is because I am just about the only one that will tell you like it is.
[QUOTE=It was as civil as I could get with YOU. That obviously wont ever change because its not who you are... you are you... how else can anyone talk to you? I could be really nice and fluffy in my email to you but, it would be a waste of both of our time.[/QUOTE]
That is totally bull, anyone that comes at me knows just what to expect. If they are civil with me then I am generally civil to them. That is unless I have to repeat the same arguement 3 or more times just so they can grasp the simplest thing. I also gave you a example in that thread of how that Email could have been stated and would have been meet with the same civil answer.
[QUOTE=You think? I know, because I have talked to Brandon on countless occasions and it never mattered how I talked to him. I tried many different methods.[/QUOTE]
Well that maybe true (I am not aware of other coversations). I will say this though from Brandons latest response it would seem though you talked to him in the same manor as you do to me and others.
[QUOTE=Honestly man, go back and read what you write... I don't write in the same tone with you...couldn't that be why no one calls me a whacked out prick (at least not as much as they call you one)?:)[/QUOTE]
OMG, are you kidding me? While I do write that way with you and some others, you should go and look at your own post to me. You do it also, as stated by me to you in some of those post. I will also add it is you that usually starts it. As to why you may not get them telling you you are a wacked out prick to your face (you know what I mean) on this site, it is because you run this site but believe me I have gotten many messages and emails that say different. The fact is Charles it is human nature to not piss off the person that has the power to toss them from the site. As for me, I dont care, I tell it like it is reguardless. I dont care if it is here or orbitcast or satwaves it really doesn't matter to me. I will say this though, out of all of the sites, this site has the best set up and for that, good job (it still doen't make you an editor though).
cos1000, How are you. I am wondering were relmor got all that insight on the internet compared to SIRIXM. You see what I am talking about from before.
Asm610 wonderful thought at the end of your last post, you must be a really good person too.
Newman has an excellent post on the short interest thread for those of us who want to learn about such things and are still trying to figure out why anyone would want to short this stock which has very little downside and unlimited upside.
I have been enraged at the state of this company's marketing efforts over the last two years. Nothing short of a total house cleaning should be on the menu. We need a bunch of young kids in there who can hustle and are up to date on today's technology to generate a buzz for this company.
I also agree that we need to go after the talent now when the economy is in its recession but I think it has to be talent that generates subscribers, that is radio professionals that have a regional following who have been axed from their stations for one reason or another that will work for a lower salary and get a piece of the ad revenues from their shows. In addition I agree we should be a presence at concerts promoting Sirius and its products. I couldn't understand why no one from Sirius ever wanted to promote products when Bubba took his show on the road last year, that's just dumb.
There are other inexpensive ways that Sirius can market itself, for example two years ago my son won the SiriusSatellite Radio Spy Optic Rail Jam at Mt. Snow in Vermont. In addition to his prize money he won a Sportster 4 radio and all the accessories. He has been a subscriber since while Sirius vanished from the snowboard scene which still continues to grow. For example they could have been a sponsor on the Chevy Revolution Tour which is the triple A level of snowboard competition, Chevy paid very little to be the primary sponsor and sirius could have jumped in and sponsored just to give away some radios to the winners at the four events and to give away some swag at the four events which were in Colorado, Maine, California and Oregon. These are major snowboarding events at major resorts over weenends when Sirius could have exposure to people with disposable income.
In addition I am a seven star player in Harrah's total rewards system. If I get one more IPOD give away from Harrah's or Caesars Atlantic City I am going to scream. How about a Stilletto give away, these go to the top players in the Harrah's system, to earn seven stars you must earn 100,000 tier credits with each tier credit being 5 dollars. Obviously these are your better players with disposable incomes who even if they don't want the gift they will find someone who does.
These are just a few of the things that a creative marketing department can do on a budget especially in these tough times. It requires people who are motivated and for those who have read my posts before you alll know where I stand on internet marketing.
Perhaps we should be proactive and once a week we can forward our ideas to Sirius because just from reading the other posts there are some great ideas here and each of us have a vested interest in this company's growth.
Not bad at all.... I hope you have a good weekend with the Wife and Kids....
Relmor is a good student of life and this company, and is a willing teacher of what he has learned...both regarding Sirius Xm and the markets in general. After all, we have all learned a lot through this process, from a variety of people of which you are one. To want to share what we've learned is a good thing.... Going around patting everyone on the back for their input gets to be pretty boring... IMHO
After all, He packaged a good argument, extracted from many discussions, and for that I applaud his efforts... For many people, the packaging of ideas and facts must be presented just right for them to buy in. (or else we might have to repeat ourselves too much) You know this from your discussions with Charles and others... Its not what you say or its relevance but rather how you say it... I guess that is where Diplomacy in Politics is necessary to move ideas and arguments forward, and superior Marketing to distinguish this product from the competition are born out of.
In blogs, I have become a believer that as many times I can see my ideas are being put out by a variety of people (not meant to be egocentric here)the more valid they become. I then can gain confidence that what I am basing my investment decisions on are standing up to the test of open and aggressive debate.... or not. Its helpful to me or else I wouldn't participate here.....
ok SIRI is holding steady so far today... can't wait for that big pop I say later this afternoon. My prediction: we pretty much end up where we are right now by the end of the day...
happy easter and passover
I am convinced, as I've said before, that S-XM is reforming itself. I am sure Liberty demanded this as part of the deal. I doubt it was just about money, shares, seats on the board. It also had to be about management in general and strategic direction. I'm optimistic that we will start to see the results with Q1 announcements and thereafter. Liberty wants S-XM to succeed, not only for the obvious ROI, but also to bury Dish Network. Synergies with DTV will help with that and better compete with cable. It will happen. Patience.
Lmaze, Great Post and let's hope someone from SXM is not only reading what you have put forth but, it will take some action on rolling out these ideas.... tic toc... tic toc... :confused::confused:
The lack of marketing has been the single most frustrating part
of having Sirius stock. There, as was pointed out, are numerous
missed opportunities for marketing this product. Unless people are
aware of what is available there will be little demand for what I consider
an awesome product. Marketing Sirius should be focused on the younger
crowd, where having the latest toy is important. Promotions and giveaways
will intially peak their interest and after that it will start selling itself.
Like the previous poster said, get a younger group to market this,
people who are aware of what others are looking for. If I didn't have
Sirius (which I do, as well as stock) I wouldn't know anything about it.
Only after I purchased my vehicle did I realize how great it is. When
I mention to people about SatRadio, I get a bewildered look in return.
That is unless they too have Sirius, then they are enthusiastic as I am.
Intially the cost is high but as the saying goes, "You have to spend
money to make money" Very true in this case.
underway: I hope and pray that you are right, i just get so frustrated sitting here just watching this company be inert, just not doing anything in the marketing department. Perhaps they thought that Howard would do it for them like he did for free radio but this is a business that caters to people with disposable income across all demographics and baby you have to hustle to please and attract your customers, I would give anything to head the marketing department of this company, and would take a pay cut to do it too.
Cos Happy holiday to you and to your family too.