Now are you trying to also say that the VA is a great place to get health care are you awear of the investigation that was just done and the uproar that came from it and how people were outraged at the way our military personel were being treated. You recall the Walter Reed scandel dont you. Believe me I have been a part of the VA medical program and what they have is exactly what the Canadians have long waits to be seen and then treated. I could have cut my own cost by using it but found it was better to just get my own insuranse.