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  1. john is offline
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    01-11-2010, 12:50 PM #11
    Havasucker I answered your question it is not my fault your reading and/or comprehensive skills are lacking.

    First of all you obviously dont understand what "orthodox" means. When you do the research then get back to me. Once you understand what "orthodox" means in religion you should then understand why I used orthodox jews.


    Second and ONCE AGAIN, you really need to know your history. As for Russian Communists fighting Hitler lets first get the facts straight and remember they ORIGINALLY signed a TREATY with HITLER and only fought against Hitler after Germany broke that treaty and invaded Russia. Therefore if Hitler would have never invaded Russia, then Russia would have stayed out of WWII.


    Finally only a dumbass twit would atually fall into another trap and say that democrat libs are basically communist, LMAO. Read what you said again you just tried to compare Russian Communists to democrat libs and how both fought Hitler.

    Hey dumbass your democrat Speaker of the House (Nancy Poloce) proudly calls herself a LIBERIAL DEMOCRAT.

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    havasucker actually just said this:

    "The fact is that people on the extreme right supported (and continue to in the form of right wing neo nazi groups) the Nazis, and people on the extreme left didnt. Just the facts. Remember Mussolini, and Franco supported Hitler. The Russian Communists fought Hitler."

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    As for your last comment on your post, I know when facts get in the way you dont like to answer them. That after all has been your MO from the start. I will let it go because A.) You wont ever answer things your idealogy has no answer for, and B.) It originally was only used as an example.

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    01-11-2010, 01:12 PM #12
    You just dont understand your anti semitic comments about Jewish quilt do you?


    "You dont understand what Orthodox means" I quess my Orthodox relatives might differ with you. LOL.

    Can you name one right wing Govt that opposed Hitler?

    Franco and Mussolini supported Hitler and so did Stroesser as well and on and on. All right wingers. Noticed you didnt comment on them. LOL.

    Klu Klux klan and all neo nazi right wing groups support Hitlers views today.

    All Socialist countries opposed Hitler. Just the facts.

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    01-11-2010, 04:54 PM #13
    Dumbass I do understand what orthodox means. what is clear is from this comment of yours:

    " You dont know the Jewish holidays but you try to claim you know all about why Jews feel guilt and why Jews vote Democratic. (if you listen to the small percentage of right wing jews no wonder you have such a distorted picture of the overall Jewish population.)"

    You dont.


    Just for you havsucker:

    "The word orthodox, from Greek orthodoxos "having the right opinion", from orthos ("right", "true", "straight") + doxa ("opinion" or "praise", related to dokein, "to think"),[1] is typically used to mean adhering to the accepted or traditional and established faith, especially in religion."

    You understand what that means right, because you a dumbass twit I doubt it so here I will explain in the most simple terms for you. It means that orthodox jews and any other faith are basically the strictist form of that relegion all other off shoots like (yes I will say it) regular jews and catholics for example. They all began as "orthodox".


    Name me one nonsocailist country back then dumbass. Even the USA had FDR as its president one of the most socialist people we had as president and we were one of the least non socialist countries that exsisted at that time.

    And I know you are not going to try say both Franco (the dictator/fascist) and Mussolini (the fascist) were conservatives.

    Here so you understand what they were, here is the definition:

    "In the economic sphere, many fascist leaders have claimed to support a "Third Way" in economic policy, which they believed superior to both the rampant individualism of unrestrained capitalism and the severe control of state socialism."

    "Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state,[11] with the belief that the majority is unsuited to govern itself through democracy and by reaffirming the benefits of inequality"

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Boy sounds alot like todays democrats dont they.


    P.S. And yes I also see you would like to foget that you just said democrats are just like communist.

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    01-11-2010, 05:10 PM #14
    What you said about Jews and guilt was not only inaccurate but in my world ignorant and anti-semitic. Give it a rest because you buried yourself deep with your stupid comments about Jews. Putz (again jewish for DICK. lol.)

    I have Orthodox Jewish relatives. I know what Orthodox is. You dont know NOTHIN about Jewish guilt. Good try though.

    Franklin Roosevelt was a Democrat. Dolt! lol. I quess if you are as right wing as you are anyone to the left of you is a Socialist.

    Franco, Mussolin, Stroesser were all right wingers who supported Hitler.
    You're a right winger arent you? You still havent name a right wing govt that opposed Hitler. You can TRY to change the subject but it wont work

    Did you check out the other thread. I SHOWED YOU MY QUOTE WHERE I SAID THE HYBRID MARKET WOULD BE 10 TO 12% in 2020. You can run but you cant hide. lol

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    01-11-2010, 06:14 PM #15
    Dumbass once again you did not know who you where talking to because like I said that is what they TOLD me, I did not make that up reguardless of you trying to think it is not true or not the fact is it is. That guilt actually comes from their meaning of the Old Testimate. I am also sure you know Orthodox jews do not believe that jews go to heaven after they die that this life is the only one they will have to be the best kind of person they can be and that is were the guilt comes in because they dont think they should have so much while others still suffer. Do you get it dumbass, you dont have to be a jew to understand what other jews say, you dumb twit. Here because your a twit I will explain the big difference between catholics and jews, it is the New Testamate. Yes basically thats it. So you know what that means right dumbass, that means that even if you are a catholic and know the Old Testamate you can still understand jews. What do you really think the Old Testamate is strickly for jews. I have somemore interesting news for you Muslims also take their religion right from the Old Testament. They only start to differ with Abrahams sons and which one wasit that the real profit came from.

    Hey dumbass I have Orthodox Jewish relatives also but unless you ask questions you will know nothing (a perfect example is your dumbass)


    You have got to have the worst memory (go 5 and 6 post back dumbass) in the world or be 10 years old, you just forgot what you just said didn't you. Here let me recap for you, you just agreed that democrats are communist and socialist. So yes that is my point FDR was a democrat and if you think there was any thing but socialism in the New Deal then why dont we just recap what was in it. Hummm, there was Social security, I think the first word in that speaks for itself. Humm he also wanted socialist health care right, every one of his job creating programs were government projects. Really if you dont think FDR was a socialist then you ether know nothing of any of FDRs polocies or you are totally disconnected from reality.


    Hey dumbass they were facist not conservative republicans let me put the defenition of facist again and then lets see which party that best describes.


    "In the economic sphere, many fascist leaders have claimed to support a "Third Way" in economic policy, which they believed superior to both the rampant individualism of unrestrained capitalism and the severe control of state socialism."

    "Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state,[11] with the belief that the majority is unsuited to govern itself through democracy and by reaffirming the benefits of inequality"

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Now that directly contradics republicans much less conservative republicans but it does have many of the same ideas as democrats and many more of liberial democrats. Really are you going to try and say that that doesn't sound a hell of alot like your democrat party. If not thats ok because the non twits will see it does.


    Did you go back to the "SIRIXM stock talk thread" where you said they would be up to 25 tro 30% in TEN years. YOU ONLY CHANGED that when you realized the facts were all against you projections and then moved it back another 10 years. Hummmmm sounds exactly like what you guys did with "man made global warming" doesn't it. Thats right when the reality of the facts did not prove your projections you just moved them back another ten years. I dont need to hide let me ask you are you saying that you NEVER said what I just said you said, Is that what you are saying because I want to be sure here. So please respond to that and lets get that on record also.
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    01-11-2010, 06:44 PM #16
    You're nothing but a shkapeh, a shlang and a shlump. Go ask your orthodox friends to tell you what they mean. LOL.

    i showed you the post from Dec 4 where i am quoted as saying 10 to 12 %. I was right putz. (jewish for you're a dick). i love how you try to snake out of it.
    You said i NEVER said anywhere near 13%. LIAR.

    I DONT CARE WHO YOU TALKED TO.
    I know what Jewish guilt is. No matter how many Orthodox Jews you talked to you have no clue what you are talking about but keep trying. its just possible that you misunderstood or have a faulty memory or they didnt quite explain it right. Try being born jewish and raised Jewish.
    I dont have to ask.LOL.
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    01-11-2010, 07:06 PM #17
    Hey dumbass that was after I showed you that your ORIGINAL estimate was way off the mark and what JP Morgans was saying.

    I know it is hard for you to remember who you where back then Havasucker but that is what happens when you change your name so many times, you forget which one of you said what. Dont worry though, I will remind you that you were also LLoyd and so both of you said months before that post in the "SIRIXM stock talk thread" that they would be as high as 25% and 30%. Now run along lier.


    That is rich you saying I have a faulty memory after your trying to get away with saying you only projected 10 to 12%. What is funny is I remember what you wrote better then you yourself do.


    P.S. dumbass I already explained you dont have to be jewish to explain what other jews say themselves.
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    01-11-2010, 07:14 PM #18
    Hey putz (Jewish for dick.lol)

    HERE IS YOUR QUOTE. Take a breath and read it slooooowwwwwlllllly because i got you and i know its making you uncomfortable.

    JOHN's QUOTE.

    "YOU NEVER (do you know what the word never means? Go ask some orthodox jews. LOL.) SAID ANYTHING CLOSE TO AS LOW AS 13% THAT IS WHY I, YES THATS RIGHT "I" ( that was classic John. really nice touch) PUT THE THREAD UP WITH THAT FIGURE TO PROVE YOU WRONG DUMBASS.."

    JOhn i know its embarassing to be caught in a lie but dont worry i still respect you. Putz.

    Now if YOU want I, YES THAT's RIGHT "I" (lol) will help you and put my quote of Dec 4 together so you can see the relationship between the 2 so you can see where you went wrong.
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    01-11-2010, 07:35 PM #19
    Once again Dumbass that was only after I showed you the facts in the thread I put up inwhich you could not back away from. Up to that point you had said 25 and 30% you only change that AFTER it was clear that hybrids were not selling and professional projections were much lower then yours.

    Now I know you think you have me but really anyone with a wit of common sense reading these knows I cought you in a direct lie.

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    01-11-2010, 07:47 PM #20
    Your funny. Never is never in my world. i quess in yours its just another chance to to say you NEVER said it. Hillarious.


    Got you buddy and i know your not good at admitting mistakes so i will let up on you a little. Go to your cave and when you come out i want you to write 100 times on paper. I said Never. I said Never. I said Never.
    You will feel better i promise.


    "YOU NEVER SAID ANYTHING CLOSE TO AS LOW AS 13%"
    Thats your quote not mine. Sorry buddy.

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