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  1. MUSCLE13 is offline
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    12-17-2015, 09:03 PM #211
    Quote Originally Posted by midas360 View Post
    Regardless, you still make fun of everyone even when you don't "follow" the stock.

    Don't make fun of anyone who follows EBITDA growth rates and multiples. Exasperated when people invest using the casino concept. There is a science to this. Respect the numbers. It's not a game. You see me making fun of Lynch Buffett Bogle or Mel Karmazin's free cash flow per share credo for that matter? I study these guys. They are geniuses. Malone too.
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    12-18-2015, 11:31 AM #212
    You just assume you are the only one that invests that way. There are many ways to make money in these markets.

    Quote Originally Posted by MUSCLE13 View Post
    Don't make fun of anyone who follows EBITDA growth rates and multiples. Exasperated when people invest using the casino concept. There is a science to this. Respect the numbers. It's not a game. You see me making fun of Lynch Buffett Bogle or Mel Karmazin's free cash flow per share credo for that matter? I study these guys. They are geniuses. Malone too.
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    12-18-2015, 12:15 PM #213
    Quote Originally Posted by midas360 View Post
    You just assume you are the only one that invests that way. There are many ways to make money in these markets.
    Brandon - Quite honestly I have never seen you post about EV/EBITDA multiple compared to 3-5 year growth rates for any stock. I have seen Steiny do it on these Sirius boards. I haven't seen anyone else including all your aliases. I see a ton of people trading on chart patterns, business concepts, and number of eyeballs. Business Models Matter!

    I am not good with speaking with multiple board aliases. I never understood why it's done. I see it on message boards often, not just here. It serves no purpose and I have no interest in it. So I say good luck to you. All the best dude!

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    12-18-2015, 01:42 PM #214
    Spencer...I think November was the only time that I posted anything related to my investments ever in a forum. You could post how well you are doing on Disney today. How about unrealized gain/loss screen shot on Disney today? Hmmm?

    You talk more about aliases than anyone other person here. Sounds to me like you are the guilty one. If we apply your logic on aliases, the only people here are Brandon and Muscle. Which makes sense because that is B(randon) M(muscle) HAHAHA You're such a clown

    I love watching you leave and come back and leave and come back. It's hilarious.

    Quote Originally Posted by MUSCLE13 View Post
    Brandon - Quite honestly I have never seen you post about EV/EBITDA multiple compared to 3-5 year growth rates for any stock. I have seen Steiny do it on these Sirius boards. I haven't seen anyone else including all your aliases. I see a ton of people trading on chart patterns, business concepts, and number of eyeballs. Business Models Matter!

    I am not good with speaking with multiple board aliases. I never understood why it's done. I see it on message boards often, not just here. It serves no purpose and I have no interest in it. So I say good luck to you. All the best dude!
    Last edited by midas360; 12-18-2015 at 01:45 PM.
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    12-18-2015, 01:57 PM #215
    It just doesn't look right anymore when Sirius is in the 3. Even $3.99. Enough already!!!!

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    12-18-2015, 04:51 PM #216
    Lost the 100 on the SnP, with OpEx out of the way we probably get a mild rally come Monday. If the rally materializes, it will likely fizzle @ the 100 day. Santa rally comes in to play the week after but it will be muted compared the previous few.

    Still, even after one might have added after an additional 'daily dollar cost average', in 2016 there will be more averaging opportunities to come in SIRI land.

    Same song, third verse: FX, Oil (energy) and High Yield. Q1 is going to get really interesting with market breadth as narrow as it is.

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    12-18-2015, 05:04 PM #217
    Quote Originally Posted by Nazareth View Post
    It just doesn't look right anymore when Sirius is in the 3. Even $3.99. Enough already!!!!
    Along with everything else, the end of year sell off may also be weighing on the market. I am tempted to buy here but I think it may not be until the new year before things stabilize.

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    12-18-2015, 07:45 PM #218
    Average in BDP. They are saying that the buyers will be back in the last 2-3 days of the month. That's when they will buy the beaten down deals.

    Quote Originally Posted by bdp. View Post
    Along with everything else, the end of year sell off may also be weighing on the market. I am tempted to buy here but I think it may not be until the new year before things stabilize.
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    12-18-2015, 11:13 PM #219
    Quote Originally Posted by bdp. View Post
    Along with everything else, the end of year sell off may also be weighing on the market. I am tempted to buy here but I think it may not be until the new year before things stabilize.
    Haven't made a comment in a while ... probably not time to really comment about this stock...But what the heck.
    This is not a prediction but rather my view of possibilities and what I feel may be a probability. Always protect yourself no matter what you decide and do your own due dilligence.

    Over the next 2 months I feel a lower chance case is to reach lower before finding a rising support near 3.75 to 3.85. (another major level is 3.64 that would be hard to breach at this point.)

    Most probable in my mind is sideways of latest range to slightly lower over the next months leading to the earnings call where a strong reaction up....this will have to be confirmed before making big trades as we get closer.

    Also possible is a move back up into the top of the latest range following christmas break. This last could be coupled with the second idea.
    My charts don't look much different than the last time I posted them so I will not bore you guys.
    Beware though that the S&P looks weak, if it breaks all bets are off.
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    12-19-2015, 11:22 AM #220
    Quote Originally Posted by airman View Post
    Haven't made a comment in a while ... probably not time to really comment about this stock...But what the heck.
    This is not a prediction but rather my view of possibilities and what I feel may be a probability. Always protect yourself no matter what you decide and do your own due dilligence.

    Over the next 2 months I feel a lower chance case is to reach lower before finding a rising support near 3.75 to 3.85. (another major level is 3.64 that would be hard to breach at this point.)

    Most probable in my mind is sideways of latest range to slightly lower over the next months leading to the earnings call where a strong reaction up....this will have to be confirmed before making big trades as we get closer.

    Also possible is a move back up into the top of the latest range following christmas break. This last could be coupled with the second idea.
    My charts don't look much different than the last time I posted them so I will not bore you guys.
    Beware though that the S&P looks weak, if it breaks all bets are off.
    I, for one, appreciate your insight and input Airman.

    I have grave concerns for business model going forward, period. The subscription model has one giant flaw in it that was exposed yesterday by BTIG managing director and media analyst Rich Greenfield in his report on DIS and the issue with ESPN bundled package...that is that as a consumer you have to buy some bundle. If I want to listen to commercial free country music on the 4 hour trip to grandma's this Christmas (over the woods and thought the dale - by turnpike) I have to buy a bundle....the comedy channels, the NFL, the Latino channel, the Pearl Jam channel, the Frank Sinatra channel....and on and on and on....why should I pay for POTUS Radio or the Catholic channel when I just want to listen to freaking country music? Many people here have commented over the years about the importance of Howard Stern and how they, or people they know would cancel their subscription if H.S. were not offered. True enough, but I'm not interested in H.S., yet I know that I'm subsidizing his huge contract with my All Access Package....so mgmt realized this a while back and offered some smaller packages like the Just music package for $10.99 per month which work better for me but, still....$120/yr to listen to music when I can just plug in Iheartradio?...People have lots of choices now and more everyday and at the price point that most are willing to pay for the few stations or genres they enjoy, I really wonder what that will do to the revenue model going forward?