Sirius Weekly Thread Week of 8-31-2009

[underway]

forgot to mention....
don't forget that these radio/tv personalities pander to their audience to boost ratings, and of course this in turn boosts their paycheck. So, even though they are very quick to point out that politicians pander for votes for the same reason, they are just as bad. I always question the veracity of those on the extreme left or right. They usually are hard headed, hard of hearing, and very narrow minded. When you have this with media personalities, don't overlook the monetary incentive. The more controversial and the more outrageous, the more $ they make. To me, that reduces their credibility to zero.

[Siriustunes]

John....I respect your point of view. I am fairly conservative, more a libertarian actually, but I viewed the clip and frankly don't see anything to it. I have no info on this guy Lloyd, but if you look at the clip by itself, it appears he's just recounting what Chavez did, not offering an opinion as to whether it was good or bad. He does note that Rwanda radio was misused by one tribe to incite genocide against another. I'll do some more research on Lloyd though.
Glen Beck is a windbag. He shouts and carrys on over everything and sees left wing conspiracies everywhere. He should go back to being a comedian, because he's clueless, long on hyperbole, and short on facts. I like O'Reilly. He's much more professional and even handed. Hannity used to be more like Bill, but he's becoming more like Beck, though more polished.
I'm not a fan of Obama policies, but, to think he's a radical socialist is not the case. He is advocating socialist policy in health care, and perhaps other things as well....all of which I disagree with. But guys like Beck have no credibility with me.

I tune out Beck as well when he goes on a rant as I think it is mostly drama for publicity. But there is one thing Beck said back when the stimulas bill, omni spending and then the Gov healthcare discussion began earlier this year, he said there is going to be a revolution by the people because of the direction the gov is taking America. This stuck with me and I think we are witnessing this now. The tea parties. The town halls with people expressing their dissatisfaction. This country was founded and has always embraced a limited government philosophy, because that is what fosters opportunity. And isn't that what America is known for...the land of opportunity?

America shaped it's own image over the last 200 years. An image that is seen by the world as unique and bold in freedom. The question is will we hold on to that place in the world or just become part of a blended palette that leaves us with no distinguishing character? I'm just saying.

[underway]

I tune out Beck as well when he goes on a rant as I think it is mostly drama for publicity. But there is one thing Beck said back when the stimulas bill, omni spending and then the Gov healthcare discussion began earlier this year, he said there is going to be a revolution by the people because of the direction the gov is taking America. This stuck with me and I think we are witnessing this now. The tea parties. The town halls with people expressing their dissatisfaction. This country was founded and has always embraced a limited government philosophy, because that is what fosters opportunity. And isn't that what America is known for...the land of opportunity?

America shaped it's own image over the last 200 years. An image that is seen by the world as unique and bold in freedom. The question is will we hold on to that place in the world or just become part of a blended palette that leaves us with no distinguishing character? I'm just saying.

I totally agree. I am not happy with the move towards the 'nanny state' and lack of self reliance. I still don't like Beck and ignore him. He's a moron. He spews a lot of hatred and his racist attitude lies beneath the surface. He purports to be a populist and for the common man, but lives in a ritzy suburb in a $5million mansion. Please Mr. Beck, go sell BS somewhere else. We're all full up here.

[candleman]

I totally agree. I am not happy with the move towards the 'nanny state' and lack of self reliance. I still don't like Beck and ignore him. He's a moron. He spews a lot of hatred and his racist attitude lies beneath the surface. He purports to be a populist and for the common man, but lives in a ritzy suburb in a $5million mansion. Please Mr. Beck, go sell BS somewhere else. We're all full up here.

All of these Conservative talk show hosts are millionaires. They make money by taking the opposing side of the Democrat Party. That's fine I suppose. But the listeners need to know that they are just pawns in the game of making money for the host. If Health Care wasn't the issue, then something else would be.

People forget that there are 300 million of us in America. These hosts are only listened to by 10% of us. And yet they try to make it seem like they are the spokesman for the majority. They aren't of course, but they sure make a lot of money from those that do listen to them.

I wonder if any of them could actually make a living in a factory or on a backhoe. Or for that matter, in a classroom or a Doctor's office. I don't think they have those sorts of skills. But, they sure can spew the crap and make a bunch of money doing that!

I can't wait for Sarah Palin to join the club. She'll make the big bucks spewing hatred and speaking for the minority.

By the way, today is a great day to make some money swing trading Sirius. And isn't that we're talking about on this board?

[Siriusowner]

....People forget that there are 300 million of us in America. These hosts are only listened to by 10% of us.

30 million listeners ? Wow that is a great rating !!!

Who is this guy ?

[SiriuslyLong]

Back on the subject of this equity.

So what's the word - profit taking? Anyone looking at level 2 that could provide us details? Personally, I was dissappointed. I suppose a little pull back it to be expected, but when you gap down 4.5% then drop another ~8% from there, something has to be up.

Regarding politics, I'm as dissappointed with the Obama regime as I am with with the Bush regime. I don't consider myself malcontent, just someone who would prefer common sense versus party ideology.

[Siriusowner]

I thought it was going to pull back to around 0.65 only but evidently that was not the case. It looks like it is heading south for 0.50.

The flag formation is still valid. The formation is bullish. If the 0.50 is broken then the bullish formation is negated.

Anyway, I am glad I did not buy at 0.65.

[SiriuslyLong]

I thought it was going to pull back to around 0.65 only but evidently that was not the case. It looks like it is heading south for 0.50.

The flag formation is still valid. The formation is bullish. If the 0.50 is broken then the bullish formation is negated.

Anyway, I am glad I did not buy at 0.65.

Are you saying 50 cents or 50's because it is dropping hard again - now 0.605

[JohnnyIrishXM]

The Sky is falling and the socialist are in the white house,WOW,what the heck is going on here...
Been busy last week doing 3 Fantasy leagues and checking in from time to time,but not much going on until today's stop loss takedown,shame on you if you had one in on this stock..
I guess if you yell fire enough months, one will happen eventually(LA)EX:the crash is coming ,fundamentals don't support this run up(DOW,S&P,Nasdaq)
Bull crap,this is a normal stair recovery,up 25% down 15% soforth,all to scare out the wimps ans sell on way down,low usually and buy high...Been going on since 1929...we will hang in .60 ;s for awhile and maybe tickle high .50;s once a week,until better news or buyers show up...

Playing golf alot and just waiting for $1 sp to come on board,sooner than later.IMHO the rest can trade and get burned and fund the treasury with their taxes on Ben's huge gains...

[john]

John....I respect your point of view. I am fairly conservative, more a libertarian actually, but I viewed the clip and frankly don't see anything to it. I have no info on this guy Lloyd, but if you look at the clip by itself, it appears he's just recounting what Chavez did, not offering an opinion as to whether it was good or bad. He does note that Rwanda radio was misused by one tribe to incite genocide against another. I'll do some more research on Lloyd though.
Glen Beck is a windbag. He shouts and carrys on over everything and sees left wing conspiracies everywhere. He should go back to being a comedian, because he's clueless, long on hyperbole, and short on facts. I like O'Reilly. He's much more professional and even handed. Hannity used to be more like Bill, but he's becoming more like Beck, though more polished.
I'm not a fan of Obama policies, but, to think he's a radical socialist is not the case. He is advocating socialist policy in health care, and perhaps other things as well....all of which I disagree with. But guys like Beck have no credibility with me.

underway, You are falling into the same misconception many do. You dont have to care where the information comes from, the video speaks for itself. I personally cant believe you dont see what Mark Lloyd is saying in the video. First you say this:

"it appears he's just recounting what Chavez did, not offering an opinion as to whether it was good or bad."

and then this:

"He does note that Rwanda radio was misused by one tribe to incite genocide against another.

I will break it down for you and take direct qoutes from the video to show what exactly he is saying. I will take the 2 in order of which they came in the clip. First Mark Lloyd says this; "STATE radio in Rwanda was taken over by one tribe one group and they began to put out propoganda." What he is saying here is that if the state run radio would have stayed in the control of the state, the genocide would have never happen, that when private groups of people get control of the media bad things happen.

If that was not clear enough for you he gives you another example when he uses Hugo Chavez.

here is that direct qoute;

"In Venezuela with Chavez, REALLY AN INCREDIBLE REVOLUTION a DRAMAITIC REVOLUTION. To begin to put in place saying that we're going to have an impact on the people of Venezuela."

You cant take what he says here any other way except that he concludes what Chavez dids was a good thing in his mind.

next he says this:

"The property owners and the people that where controlling the media in Venezuela rebelled worked frankly with folks here in the U.S. government worked to oust him."

I first would like to bring up something else, he says "PROPERTY OWNERS". Do you know if we were talking about the U.S. instead of Venezuela Mark Lloyd is talking about people like us, you and me (share holders).

What he says in the last quote was that because of the media (not controlled by the state) this great revolution did not take hold at first and that it was not until it was crushed that it could.


He gives 2 examples in his mind of how media not controlled by the state had terrible consequences. I will say that if the first quote was not enough then the second should be enough to show exactly where he is coming from and what he would like to see.


Here is a better clip that has a better picture so you can make out more clearly what he is saying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF2C2...eature=related


Here is something else for you to think about. Remember when the merger was going on and almost everyone was saying this diversity issue was nothing more then a blantant grap for spectrum. That it cant be reasonible or legal. Well I can now see how and why this issue took up so much time and why they had to give up what they had to, to get the merger through. Remember the outrage at what George Town Partners was doing and how everyone was saying this cant be happening here in the USA. Well look out brother because if this guy has his way it will be common place.


underway, I suggest you look very closely at things or before you know what hit you, it will be here and dont say, "what could we do, I didn't see it coming", because I just tried to show you.



Hannity tried to warn you just what kind of man Obama was when he told you about Rev. Right back in March of 2007 (thats right 2007), he tried to tell you all about Bill Aiers. Are you now going to try and tell me that it was some kind of qiuntessence that the fellow partner and founder in the Bill Aiers Weather Underground is now on the board of the orginization that helped right most of the stimulas bill.


P.S. I did not even bring up the other (self avowed) communist, convicted criminals, and radicals, Obama has advising him because they have nothing to do with this thread but there are many and far spread.