Well the good news is they must think that they are only going to lose a penny for each of the rest of the quarters or I would guess 2nd Q loss of a penny, 3rd Q loss of 2 pennies, and 4th quarter even or a penny profit. As far as 2010 gos I think they are figuring that OEMs will pick up again in that year and will drag the bottom line down with it. As long as they can get to FCF positive for the year it wont matter though. First EBITDA positive then FCF positive then true profit, they should all follow each other rather quickly if they can start to pick up subs again.