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  1. fm no more is offline
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    05-29-2009, 01:39 PM #11
    From an internal Sirius XM Document


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    US Music Royalty Fee Overview
    As an ongoing part of our business, SIRIUS XM must pay copyright music royalties to music
    companies and music publishers. These royalties have risen dramatically over the past few
    years, as a result of decisions of the Copyright Royalty Board (CRB). SIRIUS XM has tried to
    keep these fees as low as possible but in the end, the company has very limited influence over these payments. The FCC decision approving the merger between SIRIUS and XM allows the company to pass through to Subscribers any federally mandated increases in music royalties that we must pay, since March 20, 2007. The FCC decision allows us to pass through this fee increase to our Subscribers and the company has chosen to do this with the U.S. Music Royalty Fee.

    The US Music Royalty Fee will be applied to all music subscriptions that SIRIUS XM offers. The fee will be implemented on July 29th, 2009. The existing Subscriber base will receive this fee on their first billing after this date. The fee will be applied to all satellite plans with music content on a Monthly, Quarterly, Semi-Annual and all Annual Savings Plans. Lifetime Subscribers, who have purchased prior to July 29th, will never receive the US Music Royalty Fee. Since the online products are not satellite based they will not incur the U.S. Music Royalty Fee. Once the fee is introduced on July 29th, any new activation or conversion will include the fee. As we go through this training, you will gain a better understanding of how this fee is applied and how to explain it to the Subscribers. We will be going through different scenarios so you can understand why we are passing this fee onto our Subscribers, how to diffuse irate Subscribers, and how the Subscriber can truly benefit by adding longer term plans.

    A support group of LCRs will handle Subscribers calling in response to the US Music
    Royalty Fee

    The below are the XM and SIRIUS Terms & Conditions (Ts & Cs) including verbiage for
    disclosing the US Music Royalty Fee. These Terms & Conditions will ensure that the
    Subscriber has been informed about the US Music Royalty Fee that will be introduced starting July 29th.

    Legacy XM T&Cs:
    OK. Mr./Mrs. _______, youve made a great decision. We will renew your service for (Insert plan selection). Your subscription will be subject to the US Music Royalty fee starting July 29th and is governed by the XM Customer Agreement which you can find on our website. Please be sure to read it. Thank you very much for your time today and enjoy your XM Satellite Radio! If we can be of
    further assistance, please call 1-800-XMRADIO (800-967-2346). Thanks again and have a great day.

    Legacy SIRIUS T&Cs:
    OK. Mr./Mrs. _______, youve made a great decision. We will renew your service for (Insert plan selection). Your subscription will be subject to the US Music Royalty fee starting July 29th and is governed by our full Terms & Conditions which you can find on our website; please be sure to read it. Thank you very much for your time today and enjoy your SIRIUS Satellite Radio! If we can be of further assistance, please call 888-539-7474. Thanks again and have a great day.

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    US Music Royalty Fee- FAQs

    Below are examples questions you may receive from Subscribers regarding the US Music
    Royalty Fee. Use Answers below (as verbatim) when answering questions about why
    there is a US Music Royalty Fee or costs associated with the US Music Royalty Fee.

    What is this US Music Royalty Fee?
    Unlike land based radio, both SIRIUS and XM are required to pay copyright music royalties to recording artists, musicians and recording companies who hold copyrights to lyrics and music.

    Why are you increasing your price?
    We are not increasing our base price which will remain at $12.95/month for most Subscribers.

    Why are you charging me this fee?
    US Music Royalty rights were established by Congress and are a product of the copyright ACT, the copyright royalty board which sets the rates SIRIUS XM must pay the music industry has increased the rates dramatically. Unfortunately we can no longer absorb these increased costs.

    Who makes up the Copyright Royalty Board (CRB)?
    The Copyright Royalty Board consists of three Copyright Royalty Judges who determine rates and terms for copyright statutory licenses and make determinations on distribution of statutory license royalties collected by the United States Copyright Office of the Library of Congress. The Board, made up of three permanent copyright royalty judges, was created under the Copyright Royalty and Distribution Reform Act of 2004, These administrative judges are appointed by the Librarian of Congress

    Why does it cost so much?
    The Copyright Royalty Board which sets the rates SIRIUS XM must pay the music industry
    have increased the rates dramatically. Unfortunately the Company can no longer absorb these increased costs and must pass them on to subscribers as a US Music Royalty Fee.

    Is there any way to avoid this charge?
    Absolutely, for our Subscribers who previously purchased a long term plan, we will continue to absorb these costs until the next renewal date. If you renew and extend your current subscription before July 29, 2009 we will continue to absorb these increased royalty costs until your next renewal date. I can tell you about some our great savings plans.

    FCC Ruling stated you can't raise your price, why are you doing it?
    This fee is consistent with our commitment not to raise the base price of specific service plans for three years after the merger. The FCC did however permit us to add this fee to our price beginning July 29, 2009.
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    How does this relate to the March Increase?
    It is unrelated; the US Music Royalty Fee is to recover royalty cost increases that are outside of the control of SIRIUS XM

    I just locked in for MRD, why are you increasing it again?
    If you purchased a multi-month plan to lock in a lower price or to retain free streaming, the US Music Royalty Fee will not affect you until the next renewal date for the Plan you purchased.

    Who gets the money?
    The US Music Royalty Fee will be used to offset payments from SIRIUS XM to the music
    industry

    Do you foresee any changes in the fee?
    The Copyright Royalty Board sets the fees that SIRIUS XM is required to pay. The fee is
    expected to increase by one half percent per year through 2012.

    Why did you decide to charge a US Music Royalty Fee rather than adding the increase to
    the subscription fee?
    The FCC order requires that we detail the royalty increase for our Subscribers

    Why is the US MRF taxed?
    Under applicable tax regulations, it has been determined that the US MRF is a taxable charge.

    I only listen to news and talk radio, so why should I be charged the US MRF?
    I understand, however it would be impossible to calculate the US Music Royalty Fee based on individual listening patterns of our Subscribers

    You recently increased the price of my second radio by $2.00. Now you are adding a US
    MRF of $.97. Isnt this too much?
    The discounted second radio price of $8.99 is still a 30% savings over our standard fee. The addition of a US Music Royalty Fee is necessary due to the dramatic increase in royalties that we have been forced to pay the music industry.

    Was I paying this fee previously as part of my subscription price and now am I paying for
    it separately?
    Until July 29, 2009 the FCC required SIRIUS XM to pay the royalty increases, however the order provided the ability for us to pass along these royalty cost increases beginning July 29, 2009

    If I have an A La Carte subscription am I only paying the fee on the music channels?
    Thats a great question, SIRIUS XM is obligated to pay the US Music Royalty Fee based on
    the content available in packages, unfortunately we are not able to customize the fee for
    individual Subscribers

    US Music Royalty Fee- FAQs
    Is there a way to reduce this cost--can I switch my subscription package to mostly music
    You may switch to a mostly music package, which will save you $.45 a month in US Music
    Royalty Fees, but if you do that, you will be giving up over xx channels (different for SIRIUS and XM) of great programming. However, let me tell you about some of our great savings plan which will allow you to delay the US Music Royalty Fee for the term of that plan.

    I have an online radio subscription; do I pay a royalty fee on that?
    No, the music royalties associated with satellite delivery and internet deliver y of music content are different. The royalties associated with internet listening is absorbed in the subscription price

    I have 2 subscriptions a Best of and a SIRIUS Everything why is the fee the same on both
    subscriptions The US Music Royalty Fee is based on music; the channels included in the Best of portion of your package do not include large amounts of music, so no US Music Royalty fee is due on that portion of your subscription.

  2. LOWBIDR is offline
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    05-29-2009, 04:18 PM #12

    YOU guys dont understand business

    Are you telling me that if you owned or operated a business and your suppliers started charging more for materials that you wouldnt pass this on to your customers. Any person who says no is a fool. I know how to run a business and if you swallow cost increases very long you will not be around long. It is just good business to pass this onto the consumer.

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    05-29-2009, 04:27 PM #13
    Quote Originally Posted by LOWBIDR View Post
    Are you telling me that if you owned or operated a business and your suppliers started charging more for materials that you wouldnt pass this on to your customers. Any person who says no is a fool. I know how to run a business and if you swallow cost increases very long you will not be around long. It is just good business to pass this onto the consumer.
    Would you do it if you just increased the price a few months ago and once you get your quarterly report you find out that you've lost 404,442 customers ? Not to mention the fact that you told your customers that once you company merged with another that everything would be cheaper for the customer? Also you would be giving less product too(music channels taken away,ala cart option and MLB for sirius) I don't think so. Especially when you the business paid too much for the goods you are providing in the first place.

  4. SiriusBuzz is offline
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    05-29-2009, 04:27 PM #14
    Quote Originally Posted by LOWBIDR View Post
    Are you telling me that if you owned or operated a business and your suppliers started charging more for materials that you wouldnt pass this on to your customers. Any person who says no is a fool. I know how to run a business and if you swallow cost increases very long you will not be around long. It is just good business to pass this onto the consumer.
    I dont think anyone is arguing that.

    If my business was hit with a $1.00 per transaction mandatory tax, I would not charge my customers $2.00. I certainly would not do that right after a previous price increase. AND I would certainly not doing that while I was in an important growth period. Thats bad business.
    Charles LaRocca
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    05-29-2009, 04:33 PM #15
    Quote Originally Posted by SiriusBuzz View Post
    I dont think anyone is arguing that.

    If my business was hit with a $1.00 per transaction mandatory tax, I would not charge my customers $2.00. I certainly would not do that right after a previous price increase. AND I would certainly not doing that while I was in an important growth period. Thats bad business.
    Agreed.especially when there are other alternatives to your product out ther gaining on you.

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    05-29-2009, 06:00 PM #16
    I see scott confirmed this information on multichannel news

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    05-29-2009, 06:33 PM #17
    Quote Originally Posted by tim wallick View Post
    I see scott confirmed this information on multichannel news
    Yea it's true . Dumb Move by Mel

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    05-29-2009, 08:35 PM #18
    What I think is strange is the lengths someone went to make sure everyone knew about this. Not only did I personally receive an email this morning but, it seems like this was posted all over every satrad forum by first time posters (most likely the same person) why? Who benefits from leaking this kind of information to the masses? Why would some employee go to such lengths?

    Then again, if were not true... why not come out and say "thats not true" if you are Sirius XM. The whole thing seems weird to me.
    Charles LaRocca
    SiriusBuzz Founder

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    05-29-2009, 08:56 PM #19
    Quote Originally Posted by SiriusBuzz View Post
    What I think is strange is the lengths someone went to make sure everyone knew about this. Not only did I personally receive an email this morning but, it seems like this was posted all over every satrad forum by first time posters (most likely the same person) why? Who benefits from leaking this kind of information to the masses? Why would some employee go to such lengths?

    Then again, if were not true... why not come out and say "thats not true" if you are Sirius XM. The whole thing seems weird to me.
    An employee leaked it over at Xmfan and I spread it around to every SatRad forum i know of minus DRC (because I'm banned from there). I used to be a subscriber(canceled 2 years ago and i still lurk the boards to see how it's going. Someone on SFN got a hold of the Sirius memo that i copied and posted here.

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    05-29-2009, 08:59 PM #20
    I love it,raise all the revenue you can now,just like every utility and cable company does,anyone here say Monopoly!!!If your going to get a shit storm no matter how much it is,go for the roof,$2 is about right,but it only affects new customer's or month to monther's....

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