Super Committee Gets an Earful

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Super Committee Republicans Get Earful Over Loyalty To Grover Norquist

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BRIAN BEUTLER NOVEMBER 2, 2011, 12:30 PM 5109 86
While Super Committee Democrats are pressed to accept unpopular, and illiberal proposals like raising the Medicare eligibility age to 67 over several years, Republicans are under increasing pressure to cut Grover Norquist loose.

The well-funded anti-tax crusader has secured pledges from the vast majority of Republican members of Congress, including all six GOP members of the Super Committee, to never raise taxes on net. And that’s the key reason the panel is deadlocked with just three weeks until its deadline.

Simpson is former Republican Senator from Wyoming i believe.


Simpson went on: “So here he is. I asked him. He said, ‘My hero is Ronald Reagan.’ I said, ‘Well, he raised taxes 11 times in his eight years.’ And he said, ‘I know. I didn’t like that at all.’ I said, ‘Well, he did it. Why do you suppose?’ He said, ‘I don’t know. Very disappointing.’ I said, ‘He probably did it to make the country run, another sick idea.’”

I don't believe democrats are going to allow this committee to fail because of their rigid ideology to increase the tax rates of high earners when even Bill Gates says it isn't enough.

It's a great political tactic by the dems. I have to hand them that. Right now the OWS movement is getting energized by the unwillingness of dems to move off their demands for higher tax rates on high earners even though the top 1% pay nearly 37% of all income taxes. It is also interesting that they don't want to cut loopholes which does has the same result. Or does it? Cutting loopholes is not nearly as energenic as raisng taxes on the rich. Much less effect. If you're into demogoguery, you may as well do it right.

Thanks for giving us your "rigid" ideological point of view on Democratic strategy. :)

Now how about those Alan Simpson comments? lol
And how about discussing Conservative Republican strategy?

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Thanks for giving us your "rigid" ideological point of view on Democratic strategy. :)

Now how about those Alan Simpson comments? lol
And how about discussing Conservative Republican strategy?

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Oh, it gets better yet. As this unfolds, the dems blame the republicans. The OWS'ers embrace this and with media coverage, it solidifies.

Then Obama calls on Krugman to head up his economic team................ Then we hand over 60% of our paycheck so we can all be equal and truly free to explore our liberties.

Whats the Republican playbook?

And what did you think of Alan Simpsons comments? Dont be sheepish. We know how you feel. lol

Krugman to head Obama's economic team? Are you dellusional?
60%? i heard at least 90%. lol

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Whats the Republican playbook?

And what did you think of Alan Simpsons comments? Dont be sheepish. We know how you feel. lol

Krugman to head Obama's economic team? Are you dellusional?
60%? i heard at least 90%. lol

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The guy is goofy.

60%. You probably didn't read it earlier, but Denmark has the lowest Gini Coefficient, and their taxes are around 60% which doesn't include a 25% VAT which includes food.

He might be goofy but were his facts wrong about Ronald Reagan and didnt he make a good point.

You moving to Denmark anytime soon? I hear it was voted the best place to live and raise a family.
I am going to have to find that article. lol.

oh i read it alright. i understand more and more about your obsessions. :)

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He might be goofy but were his facts wrong about Ronald Reagan and didnt he make a good point.

You moving to Denmark anytime soon? I hear it was voted the best place to live and raise a family.
I am going to have to find that article. lol.

oh i read it alright. i understand more and more about your obsessions. :)

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Should have been more clear - Norquist is goofy. Simpson faced him if that is an accurate account.

Obsessions? I noted that Denmark has the lowest Gini Coefficient and wanted to understand how and why. The short answer is they tax the $hit out of their people to support their welfare state. It's all there for the reading.

lol. You kinow obsessions about accountants, Peter Schiff, taxes, etc. Now Denmark.

Oh Norquist is goofy. So do you oppose his tax pledge. Which positions of his do you oppose?

Do you have any idea how unhappy or happy the Danish are about their system?

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lol. You kinow obsessions about accountants, Peter Schiff, taxes, etc. Now Denmark.

Oh Norquist is goofy. So do you oppose his tax pledge. Which positions of his do you oppose?

Do you have any idea how unhappy or happy the Danish are about their system?

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I appreciate his tax pledge. As I said, I would like to save some of the tax dollars I contribute for my children. I'd like to reserve that right.

About the Danish, no I don't know they are happy. The Heritage Foundation ranks them very high in Economic Freedom though: http://www.heritage.org/index/Ranking

Continue on Norquist. I think I asked if there is anything of his you oppose?

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Continue on Norquist. I think I asked if there is anything of his you oppose?

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I don't know enough about him.

Did you check out the index of economic freedoms or will you not read it because it is from the Heritage Foundation? It's actually quite interesting.

Why do you think he is goofy.

Well you should read up on him because I think he is your kind of guy on tax policies. And besides
he is considered one of the most powerful men in Conservative and Republican politics today.
Surprised you dont know him well.

Heritage foundation. Not my cup of tea. But I will read it.

I dont know what criteria they use to determine their ranking.
I was surprised that Israel was down at 43.
China down at 135. They are certainly doing quite well economically though i am
sure they will face problems down the road. Its a huge population with lots of moving
pieces and an authoritarian govt.

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I dont know what criteria they use to determine their ranking.
I was surprised that Israel was down at 43.
China down at 135. They are certainly doing quite well economically though i am
sure they will face problems down the road. Its a huge population with lots of moving
pieces and an authoritarian govt.

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China is a communist nation. I know you you know, but it had to be said. They have no freedoms. There economy is doing well because of cheap labor.

If you click on the country, you will see their "report card" (scroll down). I know the HF is a right wing organization, but it is still a very interesting list.

I think they are doing well for a number of reasons from what i understand although cheap labor is certainly one of them.
They have limited freedoms would probably be more correct. The Govt cracks down on free speech whenever they feel the smallest bit threatened.

Denmark is NOT altogther happy according to this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Planet_Index

i quess it depends on the survey. But i know its been voted the best place to live on the planet a number of times in the recent past. I have been there and its quite nice.

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i quess it depends on the survey. But i know its been voted the best place to live on the planet a number of times in the recent past. I have been there and its quite nice.

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I recall that at least one of the scandinavian countries have some sort of inferiority complex. Interesting is that Denmark is indeed highly rated in terms of economic freedom (as defined by the infamous Heritage Foundation), but some of the other scandinvian countries are lower.

Never been there, but a German friend kinda poked fun at them.