Hybrids make up less then 1% of total global sales

Hybrids make up less then 1% of global sales

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"Last year, there were some 480,000 total hybrid vehicles sold around the world, which represents less than 1% of global sales."

They also predict they will take off to be 13% of all sales by 2020.


By JPMorgan


I dont think that is all that much of a success do you. I dont think so if we compare that to what you have said Havasaka.

I know havasucker thinks LESS then 1% is a success right is it any wonder I call him a twit.




LMAO.

Not for long sucker. WANT TO MAKE A BET ON WHAT THAT % WILL BE IN 10 YEARS AND IN 20 YEARS? LOL.

DIDNT THINK SO. BECAUSE YOU ONE BIG CHICKEN. :D

OH BY THE WAY DID YOU HEAR THE FORD FUSION HYBRID JUST WON CAR OF THE YEAR. GET USED TO IT SUCKER. :D

Dumbass JPMorgan Just told you their estimate. I am willing to go with that. It still sucks 13% in ten more years is terrible and I and evryone else would not even be in SIRIXM if that was their projection for the next ten years.

As for your bet dumbass I will set the whole thing up because unlike you have the extra 10,000 and I will forgo the interest on 10,000 for the next ten years. So set the bet up in Las Vegas and you cover the fee for it because ten years is a fee I am not going to take on and it is your bet so you cover it and once I get confirmation that you have deposited the 10,000 I will do the same. So come on bitch lets go. You got the 10,000, you got the ten years to wait, lets go bitch.


Somehow I think I will be waiting a very very very long time (on second thought most likely never) for the information and conformation of the bet. Because your all talk and no substance. So come on back your mouth up with your check book, pussy.

" i am willing to got with it". LMFAO. What a joke you are. What about your 1% figure you keep harping on. Dont you believe that it aint going to change much? How about to 5%? LOL.

I got you caveman. So now you finally agree that my figures are right? LOL
So you want to bet using my figures. LOL.

You just covered your ass with a total none bet.

OK what do you bet for 2020? LOL.

If you think taking over 13% of a huge market in cars in 10 years sucks then you must not know much about business. Remember these hybrids are cars which YOU SAY arent economically or technically viable until 2030. LOL. Sucker!

You got yourself in a pickle caveman and you're fighting like hell to get out of it huh. let me give you a hint. stop digging.
Hybrids are going to be the biggest growth market in cars.

Tough luck pussy bitch. Just using your own words.LOL. Using those words makes you feel like a real man now doesnt it? You could be the biggest schmuck (a Jewish word for dick) i have ever encountered.

What the hell are even talking about that information was already talked about here:

http://siriusbuzz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3296

I suggest you get better memory skills before you type another word, you dumb twit. Need a reminder here it is:

"Only you could possibly say that 1% is alot or that 13% in 10 years is doing well. By the way it was you that said hybrids would take over the market in 10 to 20 years well 13% is nowhere near taking over the market. Lets also face it the myth of man made global warming is on its way out. (just go take a look at the latest poll I posted on the subject). How much money do you think the pulic is going to stand for on the government throwing away money on junk science. Once the government subsidies stop so will the buying.


A non bet it is easy yousaid take over well then take over is at least 50.0001% it is not anything close to 13%. So like I said Put your money where your mouth is pussy get the 10,000 and post it. I will do the same and we will wait the ten years. Me personally I am willing to put the money up somehow I dont think you are. Yopu really should know who you are talking to before you start to spout out your dumbass hole.

Hybrids (hybrid plug-ins, electrics and clean diesel) are taking over the market. Hybrid Fusion just won car of the year.
All car companies are putting them out and within 20 years they will probably be close to 50% of the sales.
I know what JP Morrgan projected. I said 12 % in 2010 and 50 % in 2030. You said you now agree with my figures. Your memory aint too good. LOL.

Arent you the one with the !% headline? Trying to get away from what that figure suggests for the future? Punk ass chicken schmuck. :)

Love it John As ususal you try to change the bet. One big chicken.

YOU NOW WANT TO AGREE with an industry projection that coincides with mine. LOL.

"i am willing to go with it" Chicken. You stole my prediction and JP Morgans cause you had no guts to go with your original idea of how badly hybrids will do .

Whats your quess for 2030? LOL.

Dumbass the link to that thread was as clear as it could be. No one took your numbers, you had before said 25 and 30% in ten years several times before. So excuse me, 13% is a long way from 25 and 30%. You never said anything close to as low as 13% that is why I, yes thats right "I" put the thread up with that figure TO PROVE YOU WRONG DUMBASS, thats why I did it, because it totally was counter to what you had said before that.

I did not have to steal any numbers because I never said anything but that hybrids would not be sold in big numbers until they are economical, 1% now and 13% in TEN YEARS is not big numbers in anyway shape or form. That number sucks especially when the government is putting 7500 dollars towards each car. Hummm I wonder what would happen to any other car if the government gave any other model 7500 dollars. I think we all know the answer to that one.

Hey dumbass this is your logic, You would think it is because of the hybrids quality that they are the highest selling cars if the government gave 25,000 dollars for each hybrid. You would totally negate that the government is giving you the money for the car. You are so stupid you cant grasp the fact that car companies are forced to ramp up production of those tin cups because they are forced to have a average of 35 MPG. Here let me put this in termseven a dumbass like you can understand. The car companies have to because the government is forcing them to. The government is telling them they have to have a 35 MPG AVERAGE which means they have to do it if they still want to have a truck like the F-150 which does not get even close to 35 MPG, so they have to have a car that get much more then 35 MPG to average it out. The Government is forcing the car companies to produce car people dont want, that is obvious when the government gives you 7,500 dollars towards a car and that car is still only less then 1% of global sales.


Now as for the bet, it is simple you said hybrids will be 50% by 2030 I say closer to 13%, I will expect you to give me the information on where to confirm that you posted the 10,000. Then I will do the same. Like I said somehow I doubt you will ever post that bet cause your a pussy and you dont have conviction or the money to back up your mouth.

You said hybrids would not be economically and technologically viable for 20 years. You said people were stupid to buy them. You look like a fool now dont you?


Wrongo bozo. Do you want to make a bet that i said 12%? i will produce it once you agree to a bet. Putz! (Jewish for dick. lol)
You're a chicken thru and thru. Keep putting up that 1% figure and keep trying to suggest that hybrids wont be a huge part of the car market. Toyota is workiing on 8 new hybrids and expects to sell 1,000,000 a YEAR in the early part of this decade.

You say that going from 1% in car sales to !3% in 10 years sucks?
Ask any automobile executive if they agree with that statement. I think they
would laugh in your face.
If i had told you 5 years ago that hybrids would make up
13% of all cars sold in 2020 you would have laughed in MY face.

OK so lets make this clear you are now saying that hybrids (hybrid plug-ins and electrics. i will leave out clean diesels even though i put them in every discussion of new alternative energy cars) will be 13% of the sales in 2030 is that correct? That is what you wrote in your last post correct? if so the bet will be on. Lets meet and go to a notary public together.

Hey Putz (thats jewish again for dick). Here is my quote from Dec. 4, 2009.

"Thats exactly right. its exciting to be a witness to whats going to happen in the next 10 to 20 years. its a revolution in car technology. MY QUESS IS HYBRIDS WILL BE AROUND 10 TO 12% BY 2020".

Now i want my money on that bet. cough it up. LOL.

dumbass like I said you never said that before (yes that right I put up the thread) showing what analyst were calling for. Here because you dont get it why dont you show me where you said 10 to 12% before the thread I put up inwhich you said that,twit.

Second your pussy ass is all talk and no action. I gave you a chance to put your money where your mouth was and you slinked away from it. Really are you only 12 and dont even have 10,000 to spare. I mean really my 5 year old could come up with 10,000 if he needed to.

I am still waiting for that information to confirm and to post the bet pussy.

Hey dumbass (just had to do that once. Lol) if you look at one comment before yours you will see that i put the date Dec 4. 2009 my quote in which i said and i QUOTE " THATS EXACTLY RIGHT. ITS EXCITING TO BE A WITNESS TO WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT 10 TO 20 YEARS. ITS A REVOLUTION IN CAR TECHNOLOGY. MY QUESS IS HYBRIDS WILL BE AROUND 10% TO 12% BY 2020."

So what do you quess for 2020? LMFAO

Absoutely will put up the thread where you said these 2 things. First i want to remind you of what you said. You dont object to that do you? LOL.:D

1. "HERE IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR THE LONGEST TIME (THAT THE TECHNOLOGY IS NOT HERE YET AND WONT BE
FOR ABOUT 2O YEARS)..."

John how could you have said something so ignorant and obviously biased. Wow!

You want to bet on that? lol. Can we agree that we can ask a panel of automotive experts to weigh in or do you need your own biased right winger to declare the truth? LMFOA.


2. "I will say that hybrids will not be economically (viable) for at least 10 to 20 years. i will also say something i have been saying in PM'S to people, that i dont think hydrogen will have come to be the replacement for them all".

Wow!


i believe i wrote on another post that these comments were from sept. 18, 2009 but i will double check on that.

Whats your reply when i search for the Dec 4, 2009 comment i just produced for you twice already.

You wonder why I call you a twit and a dumbass your last post is another clear reason. I and everyong reading these threads has already read my reply the 5 times I gave it over and over again and gets it, except for you. They also all know now why I call you a dumbass and a twit.


I am quoting llyod (aka: havasucker) here in 2009: "In 5 to 10 years hybrids will take over the car market". Only you would now try to argue 1% a year later and 13 % in 10 more years is taking over the market.

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Originally Posted by john

You wonder why I call you a twit and a dumbass your last post is another clear reason. I and everyong reading these threads has already read my reply the 5 times I gave it over and over again and gets it, except for you. They also all know now why I call you a dumbass and a twit.


I am quoting llyod (aka: havasucker) here in 2009: "In 5 to 10 years hybrids will take over the car market". Only you would now try to argue 1% a year later and 13 % in 10 more years is taking over the market.

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Once again you said that i had "several times" used the figure "25% and 30%" in 10 years for hybrids. You have yet to produce the quote though i have continued to ask you. Now you want to make the argument about this other quote. interesting. But ok since i am a mensch (ask your orthodox friends. lol) i will do my best to answer your question even though you will call me dumbass for doing so. LOL.

I supplies you with the dec 4 quote in which i said that hybrids would be around 10% to 12% in 2020. i gave you the quote and the date.

"take over the market" means to me that hybrids, hybrid plug-ins, electrics, clean diesels etc. are on their way to becoming the new dominant automobiles of the future and in the next 5 to 10 years it will increasingly be clear that is where we are headed. Its really that simple. Maybe its a hyperbolic statement and sounds exaggerated to you but it is really quite simple and was just a way of trying to explain that we have passed a point of no return and we are moving into the electric era in automobiles.
I dont Ford, or Toyota, or any of the car companies would disagree. It does not mean that we the dominant % of automobiles will be soley gas run for many years to come but it does mean that we are on our way to a new era in the development of automobiles. I think its exciting and i dont understand why you dont think more choice and more competition (you know the good ole American way) is exciting as well.

Know here are you quotes for the 10th time and we will see if you never answer them.

1." Here is a perfect example of what i have been saying for the longest time (that the technology is not here yet and wont be for about 20 years)..."

2. I will say that hybrids will not be economically (viable) for at least 10 to 20 years. i will also saying something i have been saying in PM's to people, that i dont think THEY EVER WILL BE because i think hydrogen will have come to be the replacement for them all."

First of all, I told you what you have said you prove me wrong and show were you said anything about any percentage lower then that 25 to 30%before I showed you in that thread on Dec 4th. I know what you have said and I am not going to sift through 520 post of yours looking for it. So just prove me wrong and show me where you said a less percentage and please dont try and use a thead "I" started to PROVE to you that they would not be 25%. BECAUSE DUMBASS YOU CANT TAKE CREDIT FOR A THREAD I STARTED AND SHOWED YOU THEY WONT BE 25%. Dumbass do you get it, you cant say "I said 10 to 12%" AFTER I showed you that was what it was going to be when you where saying 25% before that.

So once again prove me wrong shit head and find one post where you said 10 to 12 percent (before MY Dec 4 thread), and then link to it.



As for hydrogen thats funny because you have been saying something different on the threads then what you say in PMs. I also remember you telling "johnnyIrish"or maybe it was "Dread" that that will not happen. Then again that was when you were Lloyd So I know it is hard to keep track ("Ho what a web we weave, once we start to decieve") You also said the samething to me when I told you about hydrogen. Did you forget about that also when I told you that if there would be anything that would be the future it would be hydrogen because that is an end solution. I think you said something about how much do hydrogen cars cost and get real. I told you, how much did the first hybrid cost you twit. Does that ring a bell. Sounds very fimilar this now talking about in PMs to people about hydrogen being the answer was that also after I told you to about them.

JOhN WHAT YOU DONT SEEM TO KNOW IS THAT I HAD YOU ON IGNORE FOR THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS (look for all my references to not reading a single word of what you say and ask Charles if records exist) SO I HAD NO IDEA WHAT YOU WERE WRITING. JUST THE FACTS.

John's quotes:

1. "i will say that hybrids will not be economically (viable) for at least 10 to 20 years. I will also say something i have been saying in pm's to people, that i dont think they ever will be becuase i think hydrogen will have come to be the replacement for them all."


2. "here is a perfect example of what i have been saying for the longest time (that the technology is not here yet and wont be for 20 years)..."

i laugh every time i post those because i know it makes you squirm. You continue to have numerous chances to defend them but you cant. Poor john. Sorry. :d
Anyone who stands by the 2 previous quotes is the most ignorant caveman on the planet. I'm looking at you john. Lol.

Havakasha's quote: 1. That's exactly right. Its exciting to be a witness to whats going to happen in the next 10 to 20 years. Its a revolution in car technology. My quess is hybrids will be around 10% to 12% by 2020"



There it is for ALL to see. Still waiting for you to show me those "several times" i said 25% and 30% of cars sold in 2020 will be in hybrids.



I have recieved The hydrogen fuel cell newsletter for more than 5 years. I was a big supporter of hydrogen cars till i saw evidence of the tremendous financial mistake that would be. Did you know that hydrogen was heavily subsidized under the bush administration and when obama wanted to cut the funds the hydrogen lobby screamed bloody murder and they backed down. You should be very upset. Lfmao.
I remember every word we said about hydrogen.
Here is a question for you. In what year do you think Hydrogen autos will reach !% of automobiles sold worldwide. My quess is you'll pussy out (your words not mine) :)

I never said that first of all I capitalize "I".

I also have said some of what you said I said but not in PM but in the forums.

Second of all I have defended everyone of your stupid comments to me in my threads several times. It is not my fault you are to stupid to understand what you are reading. Believe me most others do.


So lets see what you have said in the forums about hydrogen cars:

"Fuel cell cars way out there in time if ever. How long you quess before there will be 1 million fuel cell cars. 30 years or never? Put your number down
Johnny. Pretty please? lol.
In 10 years how many hybrid, hybrid electric, and electric cars will be on the road? Put your number down Johnny. A cherry on top."


Here you dumb twit is the link (goto post 71 and lets all remember you were lloyd Handwerker then):

http://siriusbuzz.com/forum/showthre...4618#post34618


Thats the problem with dishonest people like yourself you forget what you have said before because you cant remember what name you are using. Here is a saying you should keep in mind: "Ho what a tangled web we weave when at first we start to decieve.

Here are EXACT quotes.

1."I will say that hybrids will not be economically (viable) for at least 10 to 20 years. I will also say something i have been saying in PM's topeople, that I DONT THINK THEY EVER BE BECAUSE I THINK HYDROGEN WILL HAVE TO BE THE REPLACEMENT FOR THEM ALL."

2. Here is perect example of what I have been saying for the longest time (the technology is not there yet and WONT BE FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS)"

So here is the question i think John owes us an answer to. if the technology for hybrids wont be there for 20 years (wow he actually said that. The hybrid Ford Fusion just won car of the year in 2010. Only 20 years off. lol.) and they wont be deconomically viable for 10 to 20 years and hydrogen cars will be the replacement for them all, then when do Hydrogen cars have to reach even 1% of worldwide sales to back your thesis?

Come on John show same integrity and answer the question.
He wont answer. Watch closely as he tries to change the subject.