The Reason Stern is not on Iphone App

It's pretty clear to me clear to me why Stern is not on the app. It is because the app does not differentiate between Sirius and XM subscribers as there is a single app with content available to subscribers from both services. However, if Stern was on the app, XM users who did not bother signing up for the best of stern would get free stern under the app as a windfall. Sirius XM is simply protecting the "Best of Sirius" by not providing Stern free on the App, which would allow any XM subscriber with a premium internet sub to bypass the best of Sirius.

BTW, I'm not a Stern fan and I don't think his fans are anywhere near the 60% of sat radio listeners he has been claiming lately. How could that possibly be? Sirius accounts for roughly 50% of listeners and less than 10% of xm listeners have the best of sirius (around 700K as of last conf call). So Stern is claiming every Sirius listener plus more than 10% of XM listeners. I know many sat radio users, and not one of them is a Stern listener.

The App is a success regardless of Stern. A few thousand hard core Stern fans complaining is not representative of mainstream users, most of whom don't bother to review the app.

I agree. Only people who are rating it and filling out why are people pissed they couldnt steal howard from free. Bitchers bitch. Happy people enjoy.
Same point about all the negative responses from the XM channel changes, and the fee increases. You head the bitchers only. No ones going to log on and say, hey I love the rate increase. Or I dont mind that XM channels were gutted one bit!! Still a great service.
This is logical. Probably be available for .99 cents a month at a later date. APP is a huge sucess regardless of Howard being on it. Cant get higher that #1. At least not since last time I checked.

Its not a matter of "protecting the best of Sirius." If that were the case, how do you explain the exclusive XM content being available on App? Why wouldn't they want to protect the best of XM too? Besides, the Iphone App opens up sat. radio to so many potential new listeners, Sirius would gladly give up the few who could "get around" the couple of dollars savings by signing up for premium internet of $2.99 versus the "best of Sirius" in a heartbeat.

Stern wants more money, plain and simple. Apparently 500 Million and millions in stock options isn't enough. The company is bankrupt, and Stern wants to take one more cut out it.

the company is bankrupt? stern was paid alot of his 500 million with stock, that he still owns. stern has taken a massive paycut when the stock dropped believe it or not. plz be careful the words u decide to throw around, specially the bk word

thanks for mentioning that the app contains both xm and sirius, i thought i noticed that also, you don't see people making statements about this "interoperable" reciever...good job (assuming its true, can someone confirm?)

or does it depend on your subscription?

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Originally Posted by trippingthespeculatingpos

the company is bankrupt? stern was paid alot of his 500 million with stock, that he still owns. stern has taken a massive paycut when the stock dropped believe it or not. plz be careful the words u decide to throw around, specially the bk word

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Fair enough. I shouldn't have used the BK word. That came out of frustration of following this stock and every time something good is about to happen it seems like the rug gets pulled out. I feel like Howard pulled the rug out on the Apple app.

As for the other point- Oprah, XM public radio, Opie and Anthony, etc., are all available on the app.

Hey guys,
I haven't posted over here in a long time, but saw your topic and wanted to chime in.

I have a sirius only subscription, including premium online access. I also have the new app on my ipod touch and unless you have Best of XM on your Sirius account, you do NOT get those XM online channels on your Apple app. So I don't get Oprah or The Virus. Same would be true for xm subscribers. Unless they subscribed to best of sirius, they would not get Howard, even if he were on.

Hope that helps.....:-)

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Originally Posted by Sheree

Hey guys,
I haven't posted over here in a long time, but saw your topic and wanted to chime in.

I have a sirius only subscription, including premium online access. I also have the new app on my ipod touch and unless you have Best of XM on your Sirius account, you do NOT get those XM online channels on your Apple app. So I don't get Oprah or The Virus. Same would be true for xm subscribers. Unless they subscribed to best of sirius, they would not get Howard, even if he were on.

Hope that helps.....:-)

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Thanks sheree,that is good info because it would create 2 prices,costing xm subs to pay almost $20 to get howard and only $16 for Siri subs,this must be what Mel didn't want to do and contract probably says Sirius only..

thx for the info sheree, i was pretty sure it wasnt both services in 1, you have to sign up still either for xm or sirius.

Ya, I was kind of bummed cause I really wanted Oprah!
NOT! LOL!

Your all welcome....:-)

Ok I stand corrected on my theory then. It really is just about Howard trying to extract additional money out of SiriusXM then. His ego is really out of control-he cant stand the idea that anything can happen without him getting additional money, even if in the end he does better because what is good for siri is good for him and his massive stock holdings.

Howard needs to show some good faith and willingness to help the company that so massively overpaid him in the first place. He perpetuates this fantasy that he has saved sirius, that all of the subs are his, etc, etc, when in fact he is the chief reason that the industry is in this situation to begin with.

He's really a petty man that doesn't understand that iphone sub revenue will improve the balance sheet and improve the stock price. SIRI cannot allow the app to be a cash loser between internet radio royalties and his demands.

Is this little piggy gonna make it to .40 today? Anybody?

Can someone in the know fill me in on the ins and outs of Howard's set up? Theres some speculation that there is a rights issue because of in-demand. What exactly is this referring to? And is it possible that he actually wants to cooperate (not extract more money) but rights are restricted by some third party?

Or is his only agreement between himself and SiriusXM, and the in-demand rights are something that he retained for himself?

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Originally Posted by bigsandy

Is this little piggy gonna make it to .40 today? Anybody?

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no......SIGH

in demand is howarss channel, its called howard tv, you can order it and u get to watch stern do his show, and alot of other cool behind the scenes stuff, just think its liek his e show except a thousand tims more material. its great i enjoy it. some people dont even listen to stern anymore just just watch his daily shows on howard tv and anything good that happened will get replayed on there and u will get the full video as oppossed to just the audio. no clue why that would have anything to do with it, to me its just howards agent playing hardball.

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Originally Posted by trippingthespeculatingpos

the company is bankrupt? stern was paid alot of his 500 million with stock, that he still owns. stern has taken a massive paycut when the stock dropped believe it or not. plz be careful the words u decide to throw around, specially the bk word

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Do we know if Howard still holds SIRI. Management's sale of stock reported to the SEC is brisk. They aren't holding.

One must admit that the financial health of SIRI is certainly questionable at best. That's what I took away knowing that SIRI has not passed on one micro bit of "value" to its' stockholders.