Man....I've been looking to buy more. I am not sure if this is the beginning of our ascent towards 1.00 or if it will go down a bit. I may just say screw it and buy......What are you guys doing (those who are thinking of buying more)?
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Man....I've been looking to buy more. I am not sure if this is the beginning of our ascent towards 1.00 or if it will go down a bit. I may just say screw it and buy......What are you guys doing (those who are thinking of buying more)?
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/090205/echos...s_xm.html?.v=1
AP
EchoStar acquires Sirius debt
Thursday February 5, 7:40 am ET
Report: EchoStar acquires Sirius XM debt, may be planning attempt to gain control
NEW YORK (AP) -- EchoStar Corp. has acquired a significant amount of Sirius XM Satellite Radio Inc.'s maturing debt and may be planning an attempt to gain control of the satellite radio operator, according to a media report on Thursday.
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Citing "people familiar with the matter," The Wall Street Journal said EchoStar has recently acquired part of a $300 million tranche of Sirius debt that matures on Feb. 17.
Sirius XM was created by the combination of satellite-radio companies Sirius and XM in July, but the company has since suffered from a sharp slowdown in auto sales, which hurt subscriber growth for 2008 and 2009. The company generates many of its new customers through sales of cars that have its radios installed at the factory.
In December, Moody's Investors Service slashed its credit rating for Sirius XM, anticipating that the New York-based company will have to seek a compromise with debt holders next year. Moody's said Sirius has nearly $1 billion of its $3.3 billion debt load coming due in 2009.
Sirius shares have lost nearly all of their value in the past year, closing at 14 cents on Wednesday.
Meanwhile, EchoStar, which sells set-top boxes and also provides satellite services to Dish Network, reported in November that its losses surged in the third quarter due to write-downs and other losses on troubled investments.
The Englewood, Colo.-based company lost $308 million, or $3.43 per share, in the quarter ended Sept. 30. EchoStar's stock closed at $15.40 on Wednesday.
Fasten your seatbelts...lQQks like the ride is starting. Lets hope a upward cycle is in the making. If all the debt is covered just imagine how nice the ride up will be.
quoting sirius ownerQuote:
Originally Posted by Demian
This is a logical takeover. Short squeeze coming up. Once the announcement is made official, the price could spike depending on what Echo offers. Sell immediately...Prices usually spike and then slowly deflate. Or it could spike and deflate immediately....who knows uh ?
I need to tell you I enjoy reading both yours and sirusowners comments, I am learning so much from all of you .
Be wonderful to close @ .20 today and keep pace at average +.01 daily from here on out.
Volume today should be over 100 million.
Calm down people - unless more news comes out to keep this thing going, we're headed back to .15
i think we will soon be above the .20 cent mark and we will hold above, not saying today but posssibly tommorow or monday say goodbye to the teen's
the continuing trouble with owning this stock is the substantial
amount of information missing (to shareholders) as to the intent of the key players - Clayton, Ergen, Mel, the Echo BOD; we shareholders are all unfortunately floundering in a dearth of intel. Speculation isn't the word for it; it's more like guessing blind. It's not only intensely frustrating, but there
seems to be as well a not insignificant element of unfairness. The fact is
these are Real People we're dealing with here. They do have actual game
plans. It's not like this is the commodities market. The only problem is
we lack reliable and useful information as to what they're thinking and what their goals are. The WSJ article was written in such a way as to be complete guesswork and speculation, designed to come across as Fact, when it was anything but. The only thing we seem to really know today is that Echostar is apparently buying some of the debt. That's about it. We don't know how much of it, it is buying, and we don't if it was done with an aim to help the company avoid bankruptcy (and share in the success), or bring it towards bankruptcy. We don't know, and it's Not Fun, since it is reasonable to conclude that the aforementioned players Do know the real intentions of each other.
nisvan relax and enjoy a green day, i sure am, mel probaly thanks any real investor worth a shit should be able to see that sirius is a good investment, he probaly laughs pretty hard at all these bash pieces thinking of how much money people are going to make money if they buy now, you want to know what sirius is planning go listen to thei3 3rd qtr conf call.
Will they have a 4 quarter conference call? I would like to listen in on it. Do anyone know of the time and date if so?Quote:
Originally Posted by trippingthespeculatingpos
Yes and the date hasn't been announced yet....probably this week. The call will be streamed over the internet and over Sirius/XM live.Quote:
Originally Posted by R-U-Sirius
Wow....101 million shares traded so far today already.
So what's the deal? Did anyone jump in this morning only to see a selloff towards .16?
These guys have been historically bearish on SIRI.......lots of bashing in the past.
http://www.todaysfinancialnews.com/u...orse-7582.html
Sirius XM: Betting on a losing horse
Today's Financial News - Posted February 5, 2009
Sirius XM Satellite Radio (NASDAQ:SIRI) is one of the most shorted companies on the market. The speculation surrounding the failing company is huge. The gamble got even bigger today.
By Andrew Snyder, TodaysFincialNews.com
Baltimore – (TFN): I must have hit my head on something this morning on the way into the office. Absolutely nothing makes sense. The government is capping executive salaries. Pelosi is threatening 150% unemployment and Sirius XM Satellite (NASDAQ:SIRI) is jumping in value.
The satellite radio company is giving its investors one of the best opening bell runs they have seen in a long time. It comes thanks to news that EchoStar (NASDAQ:SATS) has grabbed a “significant” portion of Sirius’ soon-to-mature debt. It throws yet another wrinkle into the speculative company’s future prospects.
It is obvious the overall market is optimistic about the news. After all, share price is up by over 30% at the moment. But I would not be so quick to make plans for a victory parade. There are a lot of questions that need to be answered.
First, we need to know exactly what debt EchoStar has purchased and whether the company is willing to swap the notes for equity. If it refuses and it has bought enough of the risky debt, it stands a chance to force the company into bankruptcy and stake a major ownership claim.
That ain’t good
Next, we need a clear indication of what EchoStar wants out of its investment. Is it merely a play to take advantage of and profit from the company’s overwhelming debt? Or does EchoStart want to acquire the company on the cheap?
With the information available as of this morning, I would vote for the latter as it makes much better business sense. EchoStar already has satellite expertise and could develop significant synergies if the two companies merged.
That means investors buying shares of Sirius on today’s news could be in for a rude awakening when they hear news EchoStar has wiped them out of their equity position.
Sirius is one of the most shorted stocks on the market. Only Ford (NYSE:F) has more shares sold short. It is no surprise a good deal of “shorts” are bailing on Sirius today. The EchoStar news introduces even more risk (for both sides of the gamble) and many traders betting against the failing company are already sitting on hefty profits.
But as this news develops, today will look like a great entry point for new short sellers. Sirius is in major debt trouble and EchoStar is seeking to take advantage of it. It will not be a happy ending for the investors at the bottom of the ladder. They will likely be left holding shares of a worthless company.
Sirius is one of the most speculative companies out there. Today’s news will only fuel the guessing game and make the investment even riskier.
Unless you do not mind rolling the dice with your money, it makes no sense to go anywhere near this trap. This is not an investment. It is a crapshoot.
are u thinking what im thinking demian? a big move up in the last hour as well as AH im talking like over .10 cent move.
ok, whatever, Im in it to win it, not to escape with my tail between my legs, obviously news can have a huge swing on this stock, I would hate to be out just to save %10 of my original investment.
Could this start a bidding war?
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...xZt.k&refer=us
Sirius XM Rises on Report EchoStar Bought Debt Stake (Update1)
By James Callan
Feb. 5 (Bloomberg) -- Sirius XM Radio Inc., the satellite- radio broadcaster, rose as much as 43 percent in U.S. trading on a Wall Street Journal report that EchoStar Corp. bought a stake in its maturing debt.
EchoStar, the satellite-television group run by Charles Ergen, acquired part of a $300 million tranche maturing Feb. 17, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter. It isn’t clear if Ergen participated in a debt-for-equity exchange that cut the debt outstanding to about $175 million, the Journal said.
Sirius XM advanced 5 cents to 19 cents at 10:21 a.m. New York time in Nasdaq Stock Market composite trading after rising as high as 20.4 cents, a two-month high. Before today, the stock had slumped 91 percent since the merger of Sirius and XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc. was completed in July.
The company is facing about $925 million in debt repayments this year. Over the past month, the broadcaster has been exchanging debt for shares to reduce the debt due in two weeks. The stock has traded below $1 since Sept. 20 on investor concern that Chief Executive Officer Mel Karmazin may not be able to manage the debt and meet growth projections.
Echostar may be pursuing a plan to use the debt as a way to control Sirius XM inside or outside of bankruptcy, the Journal reported.
Patrick Reilly, a spokesman for Sirius XM, didn’t immediately return a phone call and an e-mail seeking comment, neither did Kathie Gonzalez, a spokeswoman for EchoStar.
To contact the reporter on this story: James Callan in New York at jcallan2@bloomberg.net.
short sellers? at .18 cents?
Who knows Tripping?Quote:
Originally Posted by trippingthespeculatingpos
You got the gold stars now......
just emailed that reporter, tired of how they are spinning this, its retarded.