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04-28-2010, 01:49 PM
Atypical

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Originally Posted by candleman

Ralph,
It's not my employee that is getting away with something. It's over 40% of the adults in this country that don't pay ANY Federal Income Tax after they take deductions and credits. That's the problem.
I don't care how hard it is to live on 40K a year. You still have a duty to your country to pay for your share of freedom. It's really a simple idea.
Why do you expect hedge fund managers and corporations to pay for everything that the government supplies? That isn't what our Founding Fathers had in mind, or at least I don't think they planned it out that way.

Chuck

The forty percent are similiar to your employee. Everytime someone buys something they pay taxes.

You said, "Why do you expect hedge fund managers and corporations to pay for everything that the government supplies?"

Because they have the money.
04-28-2010, 01:49 PM
candleman

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Originally Posted by Atypical

Yes, those that make a lot of money are so entiltled to more. You apparently don't find anything wrong with a 15% tax rate on millions or a billion a year for hedge fund managers. You just wish it was you.

Your mind-set prevents you from seeing anything wrong with the treatment that the wealthy see as their rightfull due.

I don't think that wealthy people feel like poor people should pay more in taxes on a percentage basis than the wealthy do. I think we should all want equal and fair treatment. That means that we ALL should pay our share, not just the wealthy.

I know a lot of Democrats that would disagree with the logic that you are using. Most Democrats don't blame the wealthy for the state of affairs we are in. I'm pretty sure that President Obama doesn't.
04-28-2010, 01:51 PM
candleman

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Originally Posted by Atypical

Chuck

The forty percent are similiar to your employee. Everytime someone buys something they pay taxes.

You said, "Why do you expect hedge fund managers and corporations to pay for everything that the government supplies?"

Because they have the money.

Not Federal Income Tax! They pay sales tax and not one penny of that goes to the Federal Government. Not one penny! All of that money goes to local and state governments.

I don't want to be a welfare recipient. I don't want the wealthy to pay my way in life.
04-28-2010, 02:06 PM
Atypical

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Originally Posted by candleman

I don't think that wealthy people feel like poor people should pay more in taxes on a percentage basis than the wealthy do. I think we should all want equal and fair treatment. That means that we ALL should pay our share, not just the wealthy.

I know a lot of Democrats that would disagree with the logic that you are using. Most Democrats don't blame the wealthy for the state of affairs we are in. I'm pretty sure that President Obama doesn't.

To your first point; yes they do. That's where the flat tax BS comes from regularly.

Second, pay their fair share, you say. What if there is nothing left from which to pay the "fair share".

Third, do you know how much the difference is now between the lower/middle level wage earners and the top? It hasn't been this high since the 20s. It's out of control. How did it get that way if everyone pays "their fair share"?????

The wealth inequality is huge. Should we not care but rather continue to bleed stones because it's "fair" and that's the FAIR YOU CARE ABOUT.
04-28-2010, 02:11 PM
Atypical

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Originally Posted by candleman

Not Federal Income Tax! They pay sales tax and not one penny of that goes to the Federal Government. Not one penny! All of that money goes to local and state governments.

I don't want to be a welfare recipient. I don't want the wealthy to pay my way in life.

You would if you were desperate!

Let's do away with charity then and have everyone get sick, suffer and die. Your way IS better! I see it now. Much cleaner, much simpler and less riff-raff to accomodate. Let the well-off party begin. Those losers are ALL sponging anyway, right?
04-28-2010, 02:23 PM
SiriuslyLong

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Originally Posted by Atypical

Yes, those that make a lot of money are so entiltled to more. You apparently don't find anything wrong with a 15% tax rate on millions or a billion a year for hedge fund managers. You just wish it was you.

Your mind-set prevents you from seeing anything wrong with the treatment that the wealthy see as their rightfull due.

http://www.moneybluebook.com/2009-fe...irs-tax-rates/

No, people who earn a lot should pay as well. According to the link here, anyone making over $350,000 should be paying 35%. If I wished I were a hedge fund manager, I'd probably be one. I chose not to achieve. It's on me.
04-28-2010, 02:27 PM
SiriuslyLong

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Originally Posted by Atypical

The dems rolled over for Bush and the repubs fought them at every turn and usually won.

It sounds like you have a problem with your party!!! Either that or Bush had a good agenda that was agreeable to the dems lol.
04-28-2010, 02:31 PM
SiriuslyLong

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Originally Posted by candleman

Not Federal Income Tax! They pay sales tax and not one penny of that goes to the Federal Government. Not one penny! All of that money goes to local and state governments.

I don't want to be a welfare recipient. I don't want the wealthy to pay my way in life.

Atypical, the guy has to know his payroll and withholdings! Candleman, is she exempt? Unless she is exempt, I wouldn't know why a little is withheld.
04-28-2010, 02:33 PM
SiriuslyLong

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Originally Posted by Atypical

You would if you were desperate!

Let's do away with charity then and have everyone get sick, suffer and die. Your way IS better! I see it now. Much cleaner, much simpler and less riff-raff to accomodate. Let the well-off party begin. Those losers are ALL sponging anyway, right?

Death and Taxes.....................
04-28-2010, 02:35 PM
Atypical

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Originally Posted by SiriuslyLong

http://www.moneybluebook.com/2009-fe...irs-tax-rates/

No, people who earn a lot should pay as well. According to the link here, anyone making over $350,000 should be paying 35%. If I wished I were a hedge fund manager, I'd probably be one. I chose not to achieve. It's on me.

I'm glad you want those with income to pay what they should. Now if only the Pentagon, military, corporations that privatize profit and socialize losses, and others, like the ones that stole billions from the money that went to Iraq on pallets of CASH in bundles of 100 dollar bills would stop stealing we could accomplish something.

Never, never, never happen.

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