SIRI intraday and weekend thread Friday 6-19-09

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06-19-2009, 03:47 PM
SiriuslyLong

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Originally Posted by RunCatalina

I guess most of the forum folks use Sirius instead of an iPhone or Touch. ;)

To find the ratings: find the Sirius App in the App Store. Ratings are on that page.

Download rankings are in two places:
overall which is on the main page near the bottom right. . (Sirius current rank is second.)
and by category (Sirius is in the Music Category). Click on the category and it will list the top apps. Sirius is the top music free app.

Phew, I ain't even drunk yet. I'll try. They say third time is a charm.

SIRI landing soft on .34. Did anyone expect anything different?
06-19-2009, 03:50 PM
JohnnyIrishXM

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Originally Posted by john

Hummmmm, didn't they also say it was because of "mature content". Your explaination is as believable as that one with the likes of the playboy channel out there. Listen numnuts it was a 500 million + contract believe me they thought of every possible outcome. It is not like they didn't have teams of lawers/consultants on each side figuring this out. This Ipod issue with SIRI has been out for a long time already, well before Stern. Each team of lawers is out to protect each party from each other from every possible action from an earthquake to the sky falling.

JohnnyIrishXM, I know you must have had formed a corporation. I also have from simple ones to some bigger ones. I have found the best way to do it is to have one lawer working for both parties. I have seen what happens when you get seperate lawers from both parties trying to act in the best interest of their client. The corporation documents ballon from several pages to close to a thousand. All that for a company that each person is only putting in 250,000 dollars. So I could only just conclude what a deal worth 740 million would have in it.

Yes i have,4 in fact,and first was 3 lawyers for 3 partners,a nightmare.learned my lesson and used 1 for last 3...
And from what i read of this agent for stern,forget his name,he would have as would I knowing what i know now put in all kinds of rider clauses to revisit revenue enhancers to SXM..And you know that $500 million is not like some think it is,he has to pay employees,SSI unemploymen y workers comp liability insurance ETC taxes...it is not his salary...
06-19-2009, 03:50 PM
RunCatalina

Here's a link to the App
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/M...317951436&mt=8
06-19-2009, 03:54 PM
JohnnyIrishXM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john

To be honest Charles I am not a big Stern fan, so when you talk about Howard.tv I have never seen it. So I am unaware of any of the content and can not debate the issue on that basis with you.

Funny thing is i'm not either personally,think he is a fraud geek homebody who has a great sense of what america wants to hear and think is funny...
As an investor i love him..
06-19-2009, 03:57 PM
JohnnyIrishXM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john

Hummmmm, didn't they also say it was because of "mature content". Your explaination is as believable as that one with the likes of the playboy channel out there. Listen numnuts it was a 500 million + contract believe me they thought of every possible outcome. It is not like they didn't have teams of lawers/consultants on each side figuring this out. This Ipod issue with SIRI has been out for a long time already, well before Stern. Each team of lawers is out to protect each party from each other from every possible action from an earthquake to the sky falling.

million was not enough.

John again,the SXM press release spells it out clearly,their own words prove you wrong,They don't have Mobile rights to Howard Stern
06-19-2009, 04:00 PM
RunCatalina

One thing not mentioned is the incremental additional revenue SIRI might get from purchases made on the iTunes store. The click to purchase/add to cart means that SIRI gets a small commission. It may not be a lot but if they had a millions users it could add up to something substantial.
06-19-2009, 04:03 PM
john

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Originally Posted by JohnnyIrishXM

Yes i have,4 in fact,and first was 3 lawyers for 3 partners,a nightmare.learned my lesson and used 1 for last 3...
And from what i read of this agent for stern,forget his name,he would have as would I knowing what i know now put in all kinds of rider clauses to revisit revenue enhancers to SXM..And you know that $500 million is not like some think it is,he has to pay employees,SSI unemploymen y workers comp liability insurance ETC taxes...it is not his salary...

Fare enough, about the rider clauses, those would still not be enough to stop him from being on this app. Also it all still gos right to the bottom line of what I have said which is that it is more costly to SIRIXM to have subs use the Apple app then satellite radio. Which also still promotes what I have said about it being a cost issue to Mel and unless he can get at least close to what he is getting using the satellite platform you will not see Stern on the Apple app.
06-19-2009, 04:07 PM
SiriusBuzz

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Originally Posted by john

To be honest Charles I am not a big Stern fan, so when you talk about Howard.tv I have never seen it. So I am unaware of any of the content and can not debate the issue on that basis with you.

Howard.tv is the website.

He has his own on demand channel on cable that you can subscribe to. What you see is the actual show and cameras capturing it, just like the show on the E channel... except longer and uncensored.
06-19-2009, 04:09 PM
john

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Originally Posted by JohnnyIrishXM

John again,the SXM press release spells it out clearly,their own words prove you wrong,They don't have Mobile rights to Howard Stern

Then they also came out later with it was because of "mature content". So which is it?

P.S. I am also a fan as an investor
06-19-2009, 04:09 PM
SiriuslyLong

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Originally Posted by RunCatalina

Here's a link to the App
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/M...317951436&mt=8

Thanks!!! I struck out. Just couldn't find it. I'm just not an Apple type guy.
06-19-2009, 04:17 PM
john

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Originally Posted by SiriusBuzz

Howard.tv is the website.

He has his own on demand channel on cable that you can subscribe to. What you see is the actual show and cameras capturing it, just like the show on the E channel... except longer and uncensored.

Thanks for the info.

On a seperate issue, I have to ask is what happen with Stern really all that bad. I have to ask would they have gotten this much media if Stern was on the app., just a thought.
06-19-2009, 04:17 PM
JohnnyIrishXM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john

Fare enough, about the rider clauses, those would still not be enough to stop him from being on this app. Also it all still gos right to the bottom line of what I have said which is that it is more costly to SIRIXM to have subs use the Apple app then satellite radio. Which also still promotes what I have said about it being a cost issue to Mel and unless he can get at least close to what he is getting using the satellite platform you will not see Stern on the Apple app.

John Agree and disagree,Mel doesn't have to make a choice now..He is covering all age demographics with this APP..he has OEM for older wealthier ones and middle class and with this APP he has the corporate Who pay for alot of these phones and the younger demographic techies..
Bujy a car and get SATRAD,then get I-Phone or any smart phone and take it out of the car and walk around at the park whereever..then also you can take it into the house with Steroe or on-line feed,and don't forget DTV...

But the best is there vis no SAC or FREE promo bull crap with this new app,just take it or leave it and pay...No cost,or minimal
06-19-2009, 04:21 PM
JohnnyIrishXM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john

Then they also came out later with it was because of "mature content". So which is it?

P.S. I am also a fan as an investor

IT IS NOT MATURE that is lame,it is a subscription service...kids will find away,but Apple will be insulsated frrom liability because it is..

Either way you have to get a sub account to listen,simple...SXM grows exponentially now to who knows where!!!!
06-19-2009, 04:22 PM
john

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyIrishXM

John Agree and disagree,Mel doesn't have to make a choice now..He is covering all age demographics with this APP..he has OEM for older wealthier ones and middle class and with this APP he has the corporate Who pay for alot of these phones and the younger demographic techies..
Bujy a car and get SATRAD,then get I-Phone or any smart phone and take it out of the car and walk around at the park whereever..then also you can take it into the house with Steroe or on-line feed,and don't forget DTV...

But the best is there vis no SAC or FREE promo bull crap with this new app,just take it or leave it and pay...No cost,or minimal

Johnny I said that in the last thread and has been my belief. That the Apple app was nothing more the a driver to the satellite platform and was ment for competition to Slackar/Pandora and the likes for the (younger crowd). That to most of those youths Stern is not a issue.
06-19-2009, 04:23 PM
JohnnyIrishXM

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Originally Posted by john

Thanks for the info.

On a seperate issue, I have to ask is what happen with Stern really all that bad. I have to ask would they have gotten this much media if Stern was on the app., just a thought.

Believe imromo or Bass said it first and i'm starting to think they are right it could have been a planned slight with out howard to get all this free pub..it is being talked about every where..
06-19-2009, 04:24 PM
SiriuslyLong

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Originally Posted by RunCatalina

Here's a link to the App
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/M...317951436&mt=8

Found the problem. This is a work laptop, and iTunes is not installed. When I went on the home computer, it took me to the iTunes "browser". It's the number one top free app right now. That's good. But the wiplash from no Howard is pretty huge.

It will interesting to hear what Howard has to say Monday morning. I certainly hope it's not "I need more money".
06-19-2009, 04:26 PM
JohnnyIrishXM

Got to run,be back later tonight to answer any more ?'s
06-19-2009, 04:28 PM
john

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyIrishXM

IT IS NOT MATURE that is lame,it is a subscription service...kids will find away,but Apple will be insulsated frrom liability because it is..

Either way you have to get a sub account to listen,simple...SXM grows exponentially now to who knows where!!!!

All I know is with the rate increase I am looking forward to the 3rd and 4th quarter. I have never felt better about where they are at. I dont even think I will sell any shares in a channel to be sure I dont lose out. It is going to be hard to predict how investors are going to take the 2nd quarter news (not to mention if the news its not to bad) with the 3rd quarter not being to far off.
06-19-2009, 04:33 PM
RunCatalina

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiriuslyLong

It's the number one top free app right now. That's good. But the wiplash from no Howard is pretty huge.

It will interesting to hear what Howard has to say Monday morning. I certainly hope it's not "I need more money".

Let's see. It has been up for over 24 hours now. The press has been all over SIRI about Stern not being on it. And yet, it is still the top free download. Perhaps all is not lost.

The sell-off yesterday was probably folks just taking profits from the spasm which just caused more selling as fear overtook greed. Notice, we are finding support again at $0.34 and were brought back down there again today after the PM bounce to $0.36

Everything seems just a little too controlled.
06-19-2009, 04:47 PM
bassmaster

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiriuslyLong

Found the problem. This is a work laptop, and iTunes is not installed. When I went on the home computer, it took me to the iTunes "browser". It's the number one top free app right now. That's good. But the wiplash from no Howard is pretty huge.

It will interesting to hear what Howard has to say Monday morning. I certainly hope it's not "I need more money".

sirius is # 2. was # 3 this morning top free app...it is #1 in top free music app.....

i have no doubts it will be top free app by the weekend..im just not sure how its counted, daily or overall.

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