Intraday OFFTOPIC Thread: Politics, Religion, Whatever. Enter at your own risk!

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Originally Posted by JohnnyIrishXM

as far as the Bible is concerned,it was written by the Mark Twains of the 3rd century.Now the new testament has some relavent importance on how a human being should conduct themselves,but the rest is Garbage in garbage out...No where does it say that God or Jesus Christ ever said we should have an organized church or religion.

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He gave the example of how modern churches should be run. He elimanated the need for priests(as they were the rules of the Jewish law, when Jesus died for our sins, God removed the need to follow this impossible law, and instead you are to follow by the example set before you.) Correct, large organized religions that try to control and politic from afar are wrong. Catholics, orthodox, etc.. All these churches should be community based, and community responsible. I agree. But dont throw the baby out with the bath water. Just because people abuse and mistreat, and misquote and use the bible to further evil, doesnt make the words wrong, or the message. The message is pure, its the messenger than can confuse you.

so let me get this right. What you do in life has no bearing, only what deity you believe in?

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Originally Posted by relmor2003

He gave the example of how modern churches should be run. He elimanated the need for priests(as they were the rules of the Jewish law, when Jesus died for our sins, God removed the need to follow this impossible law, and instead you are to follow by the example set before you.) Correct, large organized religions that try to control and politic from afar are wrong. Catholics, orthodox, etc.. All these churches should be community based, and community responsible. I agree. But dont throw the baby out with the bath water. Just because people abuse and mistreat, and misquote and use the bible to further evil, doesnt make the words wrong, or the message. The message is pure, its the messenger than can confuse you.

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yeah and your message is whack. k i will be ignoring this topic for the day lol i have had enough insanity with my own family when it comes to religion.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyIrishXM

as far as the Bible is concerned,it was written by the Mark Twains of the 3rd century.Now the new testament has some relavent importance on how a human being should conduct themselves,but the rest is Garbage in garbage out...No where does it say that God or Jesus Christ ever said we should have an organized church or religion.

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organized "church" is only a place to worship and fellowship with other believers......it has no other religious purpose.....it has evolved to become more.....but the practicality is nothing more

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Originally Posted by relmor2003

He gave the example of how modern churches should be run. He elimanated the need for priests(as they were the rules of the Jewish law, when Jesus died for our sins, God removed the need to follow this impossible law, and instead you are to follow by the example set before you.) Correct, large organized religions that try to control and politic from afar are wrong. Catholics, orthodox, etc.. All these churches should be community based, and community responsible. I agree. But dont throw the baby out with the bath water. Just because people abuse and mistreat, and misquote and use the bible to further evil, doesnt make the words wrong, or the message. The message is pure, its the messenger than can confuse you.

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I personally live my life as a Christian and don't prosalitize to anyone for it gives me peace all day and all night..Now whether Jesus was the son of God is something i don't know,but at least i know he was the greatest human being who ever walked the planet,IMHO...

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Originally Posted by JohnnyIrishXM

No,this country or land was founded by Christopher Columbus,a Free market Capitalist pioneer if their ever was one.....

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quoted from wikipedia

"While Columbus had always given the conversion of non-believers as one reason for his explorations, he grew increasingly religious in his later years. He claimed to hear divine voices, lobbied for a new crusade to capture Jerusalem, often wore Franciscan habit, and described his explorations to the "paradise" as part of God's plan which would soon result in the Last Judgment and the end of the world"

Mark 16:15
"Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation."

he was just having fun while doing it

so .....don't kill the thread
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how about those.......uhm.......
::insert local team name here::

ok,that is the extent of my religion speak...

Does anybody else here think that Osama Bin Laden is a genious,for luring the U.S. into battle in the middle east to get rid of the kingdoms in the arab world and also to bankrupt us from this war ,with the lesson he learned when we backed him up in Afganistan with war against Russia,that helped bankrupt the soviet union and ended communism in Eastern europe...

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Originally Posted by JohnnyIrishXM

ok,that is the extent of my religion speak...

Does anybody else here think that Osama Bin Laden is a genious,for luring the U.S. into battle in the middle east to get rid of the kingdoms in the arab world and also to bankrupt us from this war ,with the lesson he learned when we backed him up in Afganistan with war against Russia,that helped bankrupt the soviet union and ended communism in Eastern europe...

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He learned from the best.

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Originally Posted by trippingthespeculatingpos

so let me get this right. What you do in life has no bearing, only what deity you believe in?

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No, christians believe with god in your heart, and seeking to follow Jesus's path, as well as any man can, will automatically lead to good works(although not required).God doesnt want robots, but to choose to follow. The only way to heaven is to accept Jesus as your lord and savior. Doing that leads to other things. But first and foremost, but be the humble submission to your creator. With this humilty, true knowledge and understanding of the world becomes possible.