Market Watch week of 10/05/2009

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Originally Posted by atmgeek1

Hey LT, I see you were trying to flip miggle today, are you holding strong woth your original shares with that sell @.001? I tried to put a GTC order in today but Scotty says I have to call, it won't let me do it online. I would guess that it's going to trade in this range for quit some time. I am not sure if it will ever get back to it's normal trading range but I am rooting for it for our and others sake to get back some of the money we put in

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Yeah, think I am up against the 5 digit deal (0.00015) and that's why they won't take on a buy at 0.0001, it has to get all the way down to that last bit is my assumption. With the way it has been going, figured I could turn them back around @ 0.0003, recoup at least what I had originally put in with the older, higher priced shares.

The silly 'fat fingered' sell Wednesday for 0.01 I didn't bother with today, so I am still stuck perpetually with 1.5 mil @ 0.001 unless they plagiarize some better pictures of oil wells and craft up some fancy productions numbers some day ...

The GTC order, you know, I should just put that in ... the way I am always glued to these things I could always pull it if some bizarre circumstances where to push it back up for an actual profit.

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Originally Posted by atmgeek1

I'm watching NatGeo channel and they are running a show explaining how the great lakes were formed, excellent show, I've seen it twice. They are showing a core sample from the lake bed and it looks like a giant dino turd:p Did I just say/type that out loud??

Yes, when I have dry powder I have an itchy trigger finger and though I have learned some patience, I have not perfected the technique master dragon

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Patience my ass, I want to kill something! (Remember that poster with a vulture on it?)

There is nothing like a really good dino turd!

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Originally Posted by Los Tiburones

The silly 'fat fingered' sell Wednesday for 0.01 I didn't bother with today, so I am still stuck perpetually with 1.5 mil @ 0.001 unless they plagiarize some better pictures of oil wells and craft up some fancy productions numbers some day ...

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Plagiarism would be their best weapon. Actually, I thought they were lots more special before they posted the pictures and then it all went down hill from there. Out there in the hills of Kentucky....uh huh....the Hatfields and McCoys. Then people wondered where those guys had an office at? Well, 10 to one it was in the front seat of the truck, but looking beyond all of that....I hope you guys get your money back really really soon. Sincerely!

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Originally Posted by Los Tiburones

Yeah, think I am up against the 5 digit deal (0.00015) and that's why they won't take on a buy at 0.0001, it has to get all the way down to that last bit is my assumption. With the way it has been going, figured I could turn them back around @ 0.0003, recoup at least what I had originally put in with the older, higher priced shares.

The silly 'fat fingered' sell Wednesday for 0.01 I didn't bother with today, so I am still stuck perpetually with 1.5 mil @ 0.001 unless they plagiarize some better pictures of oil wells and craft up some fancy productions numbers some day ...

The GTC order, you know, I should just put that in ... the way I am always glued to these things I could always pull it if some bizarre circumstances where to push it back up for an actual profit.

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If you can put that 5th digit in, then give it a try. Your broker can probably do that for you or he can AT LEAST tell you if that is what they are looking for, I believe. I may be wrong..but a phone call might not hurt. If that is the case, tell him that you cannot see it on your software and that he can put it in and charge you only for online brokerage pricing.

Just some ideas...I could be completely out of my mind. :googley:

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Originally Posted by imromo24

You know how in monopoly you get the go to jail card and then you have to stay in jail until you roll snakeyes or everyone goes around one time or something? Thats how i feel, next time you get the inkling to go all in on a stock, i recommend you pull some off the table when it goes green...

I really haven't felt better though since my one and only dear spng has been halted, I check yazoo a few times and then do work...no "watching the stock market" minute by minute.

Even those damn headlines don't phase me now, the ones that change 3 times a day 15 times a week "stocks head higher because.." "stocks take hit on news of..." Stocks finish strong with release of....

stocks head, stock rise, stocks fall, stocks take hit blah blah blah, F#ck you stock market LOL...

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But ... how do you really feel Romo? :D

You forgot one "Stocks weighed down with 80 coats of paint, not moving"

Or just "Tib stocks .... bhaw hah hah, yeah those are really moving, ha ha ha hilarious Jane! "

Watching my boy's (The Sharks) right now, home opener, great game! Heatly just scored even as I was typing! He's our newest Shark that we stole from Ottawa, one of the best in the league - 2 goals already tonight ... There is an old saying about "I went to a boxing match and a hockey game broke out" ...

Yeah, it's kinda like that ... Best damn game on the planet :D

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Originally Posted by billhart22

Plagiarism would be their best weapon. Actually, I thought they were lots more special before they posted the pictures and then it all went down hill from there. Out there in the hills of Kentucky....uh huh....the Hatfields and McCoys. Then people wondered where those guys had an office at? Well, 10 to one it was in the front seat of the truck, but looking beyond all of that....I hope you guys get your money back really really soon. Sincerely!

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I think so Bill, pretty darn embarrassing ... They could have done a scale model better with an Erector Set. I remember the older pictures of a bunch of pipe, think there was a truck near something that resembled a real rig ... I'm all for transparency but ...

If all else fails I may just leave miggle forever in there, just as a reminder to scrutinize the crap out of these pennies. Even QASP, despite my earlier note that I couldn't find anything wrong with them, there is the commonality of being more or less promised something (the acquisitions) and yet a delay ... To my mind it is slightly different but not that far off from being promised production numbers that never arrived. It just sits there as a suspicion, a hmmmm ... I don't think I will ever trust any of these fully and am glad that I don't ...

Well the game is back on and I 'm babbling ... Have a great night

Sharks score again! 5-2 ... yeah baby

regarding "going concern"


While your response brought a smile to my face, my question remains at large, Mr Bill ;)

Was my understanding correct, in your estimate, in that "going concern" - as was stated in the report - a good thing or the *other* kind of thing. I believe that Shots referred to it as a sh&t storm? Was it Shots or Tib...man, I'm tired.

I've been striving to shift my sleep schedule to an 8:30PM to bed and a 5AM to rise...it's not going so well. Too many questions swimming around in the ol' goldfish bowl, ya know.

Oh, look at the time...I'm late for a date with my pillow...

g'night fellas -- and Julie, Too

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Originally Posted by billhart22

I've used that expression most of my life and I guess that I never knew what it meant. Thanks for cleaning up a portion of my mind. :)

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Originally Posted by Los Tiburones

I think so Bill, pretty darn embarrassing ... They could have done a scale model better with an Erector Set. I remember the older pictures of a bunch of pipe, think there was a truck near something that resembled a real rig ... I'm all for transparency but ...

If all else fails I may just leave miggle forever in there, just as a reminder to scrutinize the crap out of these pennies. Even QASP, despite my earlier note that I couldn't find anything wrong with them, there is the commonality of being more or less promised something (the acquisitions) and yet a delay ... To my mind it is slightly different but not that far off from being promised production numbers that never arrived. It just sits there as a suspicion, a hmmmm ... I don't think I will ever trust any of these fully and am glad that I don't ...

Well the game is back on and I 'm babbling ... Have a great night

Sharks score again! 5-2 ... yeah baby

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My main lesson is not to fall in love with these penny stocks. I displayed two up above and am considering playing one of them if Scotty will let me play. I will take it for a one to two day cruise and then pick the bastard's wallet.

I am done with long love affairs with these stocks...use them and abuse them is the only way, before they abuse you, because they will.

You have to look them in the eye and say, "No love...just give me the money, bitch!". That way there is no misinterpretation on the grounds of the relationship...from the beginning. :pimp:

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Originally Posted by Ramsey

regarding "going concern"


While your response brought a smile to my face, my question remains at large, Mr Bill ;)

Was my understanding correct, in your estimate, in that "going concern" - as was stated in the report - a good thing or the *other* kind of thing. I believe that Shots referred to it as a sh&t storm? Was it Shots or Tib...man, I'm tired.

I've been striving to shift my sleep schedule to an 8:30PM to bed and a 5AM to rise...it's not going so well. Too many questions swimming around in the ol' goldfish bowl, ya know.

Oh, look at the time...I'm late for a date with my pillow...

g'night fellas -- and Julie, Too

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Shots called it a shit storm..not a sh&t storm. They are two different things like a "going concern" and a "going concern's value".

Anyway, after reading that supplemental page, I was quite astonished over the going concern being concerned about. It wasn't an overtly positive utterance in the last paragraph. This is why the going concern has become a growing going concern and the going concern value has been dropping which causes the going concern to become less equitable and assets less tangible. Actually the going concern is really concerned about obtaining more funding to attempt a boost in going concern value and hopefully stabilization in the future instead of restructuration or total collapse.

That was quite a lesson with that terminology. Thank you for the primer! ;)

If you haven't caught my hot stock picks for tomorrow, check posts 416 and 417. They look pretty good.

Also, there is a lot of chatter on GSPG (that gold stock I bought the other day). Apparently there are a lot of people on it for tomorrow. They expect a run. I don't know, but I will see, so keep an eye on that also.

Hi Guys (and Julie Too)...

Those that picked #3 win. Actually, there should have been a #4, Dave slept thru the open and close.

Pretty bad, still need to cull some stocks, get my positions held under 50%.

RE: on afsx - I looked at the report, at least their EPS has climbed. That and they have a potential new product, which is the N (new product or services) in "can slim". Yes, I used to be more fundamentally oriented in trading.

With the possibility of the needle deal being signed into law riding over the weekend. I'm curious to see if there will still be a rebound tomorrow - previously, I hoped for a pennant formation, shown in dark blue. If there is a rebound, I'd be looking for one forming with the shape using the next line down in light blue, then hopefully a rally out on the signing news. Other possibility is a downturn is in effect, and that there could be a base that forms around 0.025 or 0.015.

http://www.scripps.edu/~davess/siri15/ASFX.png

Either way, decisions have to be made on how we all deal with it. Make your plans, execute, and learn, regardless of where the price goes. That's the name of the game. For this particular one, bear in mind at one point it was up some 7000% from where it was in June I believe, so while there are likely still buyers, there will also be sellers, so I think the upside at this point is somewhat limited for the time being, compared to risk, and just my opinion.

Anyway, I sense a little frustration from some of these stocks... just play it careful, and if you find yourself down, don't be in a mad rush to get it all back. From my personal experiences, that usually doesn't end up going to well... more than happy to share some of my follies, so we can both learn from them - I've made a lot of mistakes over the years, and usually when I don't repeat them (I still do) my account looks much better.

Wow. Obama just won the 2009 Nobel Peace prize.

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Originally Posted by ShotsII

Wow. Obama just won the 2009 Nobel Peace prize.

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wtf? don't you have to do a whole lot first? people criticized giving it mullis for PCR, now it stood the test of time, but when it was first issued, the ramifications weren't in yet.

I bet the other board will be all fights today.

I'm just gonna try to shift my stake in gold stocks, though, I bet I miss the open. Just now leaving work, but have to be in early so I should at least see some of it.

Good morning Fellas, and Julie, Too


morning confession: I get a kick out of how *passionate* folks 'become' with the utterance of a single word or name. The thing is, just how one-dimensional are we - as a species? Yeah, not very...not at all, really. It's funny, just how shocked my family is in Ohio that I have done or do certain things - yet, I'm a great father and husband - oh, and I'm a home & business owner. It just blows their minds. Especially since people that do "that", well, they're just not good people & they're going to hell.

Ever try to have an educated debate with a single issue voter?

Confession #2: I've never understood how love could not be unconditional. I rank this - in the frequency of thought - with the "guns kill people argument" -- when we all know, it's MacDonald's that's killing people :p


Hey, where's my Noble Prize?

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In other news, it looks like Bio-Clean has secured the big bucks. I shouldn't joke about it - $300k for them is like $300mm for other companies. Let's hope that they use it wisely -- oh, I don't know, maybe hiring a few defense contract lobbyists...


Bio-Clean International Secures $300,000 Investment

Oct 9, 2009 08:00:01 (ET)

HUNTINGTON BEACH, Calif., Oct 09, 2009 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Bio-Clean International, Inc. (Pink Sheets:BCLE) ( www.biocleaninternational.com ) announced today that it has secured several private placement investments aggregating $300,000. The investments in restricted common stock of Bio-Clean International are valued at $0.01 per share.


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*Hope* you all have a wonderful morning...that blends nicely into the afternoon...with an even better segue to the evening and weekend :)



Rams

LOL. Love reading your morning posts Ramsey.

And if you get a peace prize, then I want on too! (Hey you also get about 1.4mil$$$ with that.)

Nominated 2 weeks after taking office...does anymore need to be said?

"We'll show Bush!"

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All rights reserved - Billhart22 2009

Good Morning Everyone,

I feel the need to share a story and some trading wisdom after reading a few of the posts about how far down some of us are in these pennies.

First of all, let me say that I don't like penny stocks! I play them, but I don't like them. When they go up, it's great. But, when they go down, they tend to stay down for much longer than they were up. That makes it very hard to withstand the downturns.

But, let's look at using big board stocks to do the same thing that we do with pennies.

You all know that I like to swing trade as well as hold for the long term. So, let's look at what can happen when you swing trade big board stocks. Here is an example.

S for SprintNextel. This stock trades in the 3.60 to 4.40 range. So, if you buy 1400 shares at 3.80 and ride it for 4 hours to 2 days to 3.90 and sell it, you stand to make a hundred bucks or so. Then let it drop a few cents and do it again. I do this a lot.

The downside and I'm stuck here right now is this. I bought 2800 shares at 4.07 a week or two ago. But, it dropped after that. It is still in the 3.75 range. So, my money is tied up for awhile. BUT, and this is a really huge BUT, I didn't lose my money. That's because I own a good company. So, my money is tied up, but in a week or two or even a month or so, this stock will be back above 4.07, and I get my money back, and hopefully with some profit.

If that money was in QASP, BEHL, or any of the other 20 thousand penny stocks out there, I may never see my money again. Or, I might have to sell and only get half my money back. Why? Because these are penny stocks and they are just way too vulnerable to many things that aren't good business practices. Like hype, lies, and pump and dump news stories.

We tend to invest in penny stocks because they are cheap. You put a thousand in and you get a million shares. But, shares of what?

The point is there are many big board stocks that cost less than 10 bucks that you can daytrade in that WILL come back after they go down.

I make this point often and I don't want to tick anybody off by repeating myself too many times. But, please consider the big boards in order to actually make money in a little safer environment.

And that's my thought for the day, now let's go make some money!:)

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are valued at $0.01 per share.

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Our majority-owned subsidiary, American Bio-Tech Cleaning, Inc. (ABT), designs
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KEYWORD: United States

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INDUSTRY KEYWORD: Manufacturing

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SUBJECT CODE: Funding

Dave - consider this. And when I say "consider this", I mean *consider* this - in considering *this*, there's that other *thing* that should 'likely' come into consideration - hence and alas - therefore - it has been some time since America has had a positive image.

Personally, I'm getting a real kick out of it all. As it turns out, reasoning isn't always circular. Sometimes...yes, sometimes we have the exhilaration of a slippery slope ;)

gosh, what's that other one...(it's been a long time since that logic course)...oh yeah, the red herring...

looks like I'm gonna have to dig out that book :o




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52b5I...ayer_embedded#

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Originally Posted by Dr. Dave

wtf? don't you have to do a whole lot first? people criticized giving it mullis for PCR, now it stood the test of time, but when it was first issued, the ramifications weren't in yet.

I bet the other board will be all fights today.

I'm just gonna try to shift my stake in gold stocks, though, I bet I miss the open. Just now leaving work, but have to be in early so I should at least see some of it.

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I didn't realize the first two sentences that Ramsey posted were the whole post...sorry for walking over you Rams..yep $3 to BCLE is like $30,000 to anybody else...good call.