Market Watch for 9/28/2009 (Week of)

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Originally Posted by Alaska Guy

Why not...I say....I'm game...going to lock in profits from my buys on Qasp @.017 & .02 with a sell order at .025, about 100k shares....it's been trading in a range...maybe I could swing trade this thing to recoup all my shares at .032 and .04. I have an etrade margin acct, how many times can I get in and out of qasp without getting restricted? Anyone?

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Andy if you have less than $25k in your account you can make 3 roundtrip day trades in a rolling 5 business days. A round trip is a buy and sell in the same day if you dont do both it doesnt count as a round trip. The 4th time you do a round trip in 5 business days you will be tagged as a pattern day trader and they freeze your account for 90 days (i think). If you have over $25k in you account at the begining of the day you can do as many round trips as you want

Thanks Stang, I'll need to give them a call...I meet that requirement, but only if they count all my accts together. I have two ira's and a margin acct.

I almost meet it with my margin acct alone. I learned the hard way when I first started back with trading.....I got restricted in my Ira acct when I didn't let the stocks clear before selling them again.

Well my plan didn't work today.... I didn't get my sell filled @.025 today on QASP. I'm hoping that it was a sign and tomorrow it shoots thru the roof! And never looks back. Wishful thinking right!

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Originally Posted by Alaska Guy

Thanks Stang, I'll need to give them a call...I meet that requirement, but only if they count all my accts together. I have two ira's and a margin acct.

I almost meet it with my margin acct alone. I learned the hard way when I first started back with trading.....I got restricted in my Ira acct when I didn't let the stocks clear before selling them again.

Well my plan didn't work today.... I didn't get my sell filled @.025 today on QASP. I'm hoping that it was a sign and tomorrow it shoots thru the roof! And never looks back. Wishful thinking right!

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The account will need to be $25k by itself, I'm 99.9% sure they will not let you do a combined total

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Originally Posted by Alaska Guy

Thanks Stang, I'll need to give them a call...I meet that requirement, but only if they count all my accts together. I have two ira's and a margin acct.

I almost meet it with my margin acct alone. I learned the hard way when I first started back with trading.....I got restricted in my Ira acct when I didn't let the stocks clear before selling them again.

Well my plan didn't work today.... I didn't get my sell filled @.025 today on QASP. I'm hoping that it was a sign and tomorrow it shoots thru the roof! And never looks back. Wishful thinking right!

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Andy, I like that shoot through the roof kind of thinking. As soon as I sold today at .0225, it went up and never looked back.

stang

Does the acct need to have a cash balance of 25k or total value of 25k, also...do you have to register as a daytrader...or will it be assumed as long as you meet the $ requirements! And 1 more thing...is there any higher fees associated with a margin acct/daytrading acct?

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Originally Posted by stang3O2

The account will need to be $25k by itself, I'm 99.9% sure they will not let you do a combined total

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I would have been more than covered if behl stayed above .10!!! My gut feeling is if I day trade this acct, I would lose out in long run!!!! I'm not properly equipped to day trade with my iPhone!!!! 

I dont have access to L2 at work and I hAve fat fingers!!!! I've seen what could happen when your off a decimal point with these pennies, It can turn into an an expensive mistake!

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Originally Posted by just sirius

stang

Does the acct need to have a cash balance of 25k or total value of 25k, also...do you have to register as a daytrader...or will it be assumed as long as you meet the $ requirements! And 1 more thing...is there any higher fees associated with a margin acct/daytrading acct?

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My etrade fees actually got lower, but it had to do with how many trades I do in a quarter. 30 or more trades, I pay 9.99 a trade and no extra fees for trading pennies!

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Originally Posted by Alaska Guy

My etrade fees actually got lower, but it had to do with how many trades I do in a quarter. 30 or more trades, I pay 9.99 a trade and no extra fees for trading pennies!

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Thanks Andy

Just sent you a pm!

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Originally Posted by just sirius

stang

Does the acct need to have a cash balance of 25k or total value of 25k, also...do you have to register as a daytrader...or will it be assumed as long as you meet the $ requirements! And 1 more thing...is there any higher fees associated with a margin acct/daytrading acct?

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Just a value of $25k, and you do not have to register just have to have a balance of $25k at the beginning of the day. You should not have any higher fees and in fact sometimes you can call in and talk your broker into lowering the fees since you trade more.

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Originally Posted by stang3O2

Just a value of $25k, and you do not have to register just have to have a balance of $25k at the beginning of the day. You should not have any higher fees and in fact sometimes you can call in and talk your broker into lowering the fees since you trade more.

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Thanks Stang

BTW who do you have your margin acct with?

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Margin accounts and Day trading accounts are two different things (though I believe you must have a margin account to have a day trading account).

All of my non-IRA accounts are margin accounts except maybe for one that I've had since the dawn of time (I've never had 25K in any of them), I don't have a day trading account (in fact, I don't even think there is an actual "day trading account" at some brokerages) - it's just a 25K restriction for making 4 or more daily round trip buy/sells in a week (counted as 5 days, since trading doesn't occur on sat/sun). If you do 4 or more daily (key word here is daily, you can buy on tuesday, sell on wednesday and that won't count) then if you have 25K no problem, if you have less than your account will be frozen. This part is a law, so you can find the definition at investopedia. Usually, with a 25K+"day trading account" - they will give you more margin, than if you don't have the account.

Margin account minimums may vary between brokers (I don't believe there is a law for this), but whenever I open a new account (I've tried more brokers than I feel like counting up), I always open with close to the minimum and see if I like it, and always sign up for a margin account).

*where I say "I believe or I think", I'm not 100% sure.

In the meantime then, if you don't have 25K in your account... grab a calendar and just track how many times you buy and sell the same stock within the same day, and you won't get in trouble if you don't go over the number. Go to investopedia, or your brokers site and make sure the number is 3 or 4 times. The first time you go over, you may be able to call them and say you were ignorant, and get the freeze lifted.

In the meantime, be careful with the day trading, don't get whipsawed all over the place. If you don't have margin just remember, you'll have to wait for the settlement to take into effect.

Day trading, pattern trading, speculative trading, fundamental trading, swing trading are all different, so take the time to read up on them.

Those wanting to learn some TA, spend the $50 and buy john murphy's book.
http://stockcharts.stores.yahoo.net/teanoffimajo.html

Look for trading books used on amazon, half dot com, ebay.

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Originally Posted by billhart22

Hey, 85 cents is LARGE in this arena, lol. I am just going to ride this one out for a while. It has big dividends attached to it. I have to call the IR dept and find out the cutoff date for eligibility. See, I have owned it 10 minutes and I am all ready trying to pickpocket the bastard's wallet! ;)

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Going blue-chips again? Be careful, the DOW is getting a little oversold.

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Originally Posted by just sirius

Thanks Stang

BTW who do you have your margin acct with?

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I have margin accounts with TDA and Scottrade but I can only day trade with my TDA account, and there is nothing you need to sign or anything you just need to have $25k in the account to day trade, and I would imagine you would have to have a margin on the account (but not positive). TDA gives me 4x margin on my account meaning if i had $25k cash in the account i would have $100k buying power for day trades, but I refuse to use it cause you can lose your account quickly on a bad day. From what I have found most brokers require $2000 for margin but some do require more, I know Fidelity requires $5k.

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Originally Posted by candleman

I've mentioned JetBlue Airlines before. Here is why I like it.

They own airplanes, they have customers, and they have modern aircraft that use less fuel than the competition. So, if the stock tanks for awhile, it always comes back.

And it's a great day trade.

For example today's low was 5.73 and the high is 5.99

That's a very nice range to trade in and if you get stuck on a high note for a few days it's no worry because you actually own a real airline.

Just food for thought.

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What's jet blue's ticker. Still didn't get into gold yet, woke up just in time to shave a little more off of ASFX before it reversed.

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Originally Posted by investyoung

For Doc Dave and any other gold diggers:

GSS Golden Star Resources Ltd

A wise man picked this stock and I'm just passing it on. They have struck gold in their mines and have the potential for a whole lot more gold so it looks good in my book as a steady gainer.


Company Background

Golden Star Resources Ltd. (Golden Star) is an international gold mining and exploration company that produces gold in Ghana, West Africa. Through its subsidiaries, it owns a controlling interest in four significant gold properties in southern Ghana: The Bogoso/Prestea property, Wassa property, Prestea Underground property and Hwini-Butre and Benso concessions (HBB Properties). At December 31, 2008, Bogoso/Prestea and Wassa produced and sold 126,026 and 125,427 ounces of gold, respectively. Bogoso/Prestea had proved and probable mineral reserves of 23.8 million tons containing approximately 2.4 million ounces of gold. Wassa, including the HBB properties, had proved and probable mineral reserves of 11.7 million tons containing approximately 0.9 million ounces of gold.

Solid rise since they struck that gold.

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Thanks for the heads up!, I'll check out the chart - I'm looking to split into 2 gold stocks.

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Originally Posted by Los Tiburones

Inquiring minds want to know ...

Via the shrub;

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Posted by: cytis Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:16:54 PM
In reply to: bbgirl who wrote msg# 34055 Post # of 34070

I think you may have caught the train just as its leaving the station bbgirl! somehow this thing stayed docked even after the buyback announced and until all filings were in- rumor wasnt enough to get it moving, but the obvious retention of a 15mm credit facility in this economy, Deutche getting on board clearly with DBAB MM L2 appearance after Deutche was announced as the bank, and Deans SEC filings have given this one so much real credit - it wont hit the moon until acquisitions are verified complete but we should move well now. congrats on great timing/luck!

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Interesting ... Can anyone confirm this on L2? Went and checked out DBAB -
https://www.alexbrown.db.com/Connect...Site/index.jsp

Bill, you still in?

You guy's know your limitations and strategies, I just had to throw my two bit's out there earlier.

Dr. Dave if you are around ... Just received the Schwager book (Market Wizards) at the ridiculous price of 3 bucks (used) ... Looking forward to devouring it, thanks again for the heads up.

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I think Market Wizards is the first one, haven't read that one yet, is it the one with O'Neil and Raschke as some of the folks interviewed. I'm about to buy that one, found it cheap also. The one I read was the lastest one, which I also found way cheaper than the full-price I paid for it... though, full-price was worth it. He needs to name them a little more differently, as the second and third books are so similar... like Stock market wizards, and stock market trading wizards or something like that.

I also ordered one of ari kiev's books that I found cheap on trading to win... more on psychology. Need to find some decent money management books. I think if you can cover fundamentals, technicals, psychology and money management, then you should be good.

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Originally Posted by just sirius

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Man, if they could get NFL logo's on those things, then there would be real excitement in the air.

You folks were some real chatty Kathy's today... took me a while to catch up.