will sirius make money on uSirius Starplayr app sales?

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Originally Posted by john

And no I never have canceled anything that I loved so much that I would spend extra money for something not needed, because of some small changes (I call them small because we are talking about 130 to 170 channels for radio for god sake.

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You are not addressing the issue directly. You are calling this a small change but that is all relative. None of my favorite channels were removed but if 3 of my presets were removed, I wouldn't be happy. You keep going off on tangents rather then addressing the fact that people fall out of love with stuff.

You really need to think about what you are saying. You have never canceled or stop purchasing anything that you once loved? This is nonsense, you must have a really big house, a lot of land, with a warehouse out back.

When I was a kid I wanted transformers, then one day, I didn't care anymore. When I was a teenager I smoked two packs a day and then the price went up and I quit (and that was an addictive drug). When I was in my mid twenties I spent a fortune adding performance stuff to my car, now I could not care less. These were all things that I spent money on and could not think about not doing at the time... now... they don't seem all that important.

well im sure you still pay for your cable tv right charles? and your internet of course, these are both just luxury items, b ut i see siri in the same way, people who get used too it are not going to give it up because of a little raise in price, maybe they will for a short time but its not going to matter cause they will resub at some point even if they dont come onto this forum to admit it.

I actually switched cable providers and I am now looking into directTV (BTW I called my latest provider and told them about that and they offered me a huge discount to stay). But that is neither here nor there. People fall out of love with stuff... its just what happens. The price increase, channel changes, or negative perception of the company just might be enough to put someone over the top.

I have personally not done business with companies because I didn't like they way they treated me. AGAIN, I don't feel wronged by Sirius XM but, others do.

BTW... do you feel like you are getting a good value for what you pay for cable? I was paying almost $150 per month... and to me $5 per day is a lot of money. I think most people feel that way but dont have a choice in their area... people certainly have other choices instead of satellite radio.

haha i dont pay for cable only inet, yeah it's way too expensive, but i know alot of people who couldn't live without it. I'm a internet kid, i can get whatever i want from the inet i dont need cable. Sirius does not have the competition cable does though so you dont have the option of switching satrad providers.

That is incorrect. In most people homes they have the choice of one and only one cable provider. The local cable monopolies are a big issue right now.

In my car I have plenty of other options besides SATRAD that allow me to hear music, at my office I have even more.

Either SATRAD competes with ipods, FM, and internet radio or it doesn't. You cant say that it does to argue against a monopoly and then say that they dont when it comes time to chose an alternative. (I am not talking to you directly)

yeah and people can still hook up rabbit ears on their tv i believe. there is only one option for premium radio content. Im not talking bout music,im talking the whole genre talk sports what not

Clip of Dave from NiceMac talking with Howard on the air about uSirius StarPlayr http://forums.geekstoolbox.com.....1233253624
This is good exposure on The Howard Stern show......
Its a proven fact that what ever is advertised on Howard Stern becomes #1 almost instantly
and here it is....It about time Howard finally is promoting something positive for Sirius...

This is big!!!!!

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Originally Posted by trippingthespeculatingpos

yeah and people can still hook up rabbit ears on their tv i believe. there is only one option for premium radio content. Im not talking bout music,im talking the whole genre talk sports what not

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A TV antenna with a digital converter (starting in a couple of weeks) only gets you a few channels.

As far as there only being one option for "premium radio content"... not everyone utilizes that. I have friends who use it for music only. I think that is a big piece of the picture that people here are missing. For A LOT of people SATRAD is just music. Again... and I feel I have to say this at every turn... it is not just music to me.

yep music is what i use it for the least, i enjoy talk radio.

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Originally Posted by john

Newman, dont you see SIRIXM should not make any money on this, they are a charity arn't they. They should just give the internet away for free not collect a dime on the product/sevice and just ask for donations to pay for everything.


I am sorry, but to read some of the pissing and moaning from some people about the first increase in 6 YEARS. I just thought I would show how stupid they sound.

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john, I wanted to address this, because I think you thought that I was bitching. That could not be furthest from the truth. I think this is a brilliant move by the company. I think the only thing that would have made it better is if the app was put out by THEM instead of by a third party.

As far as raising prices, I wholehertedly agree. I am on the XM side of things, and I have seen one price increase since I signed up with them. Now, rather than paying for ANOTHER price increase, I am locking in my rate and my internet with a lifetime sub. Tyler posted today about it.

A lifetime sub is $399, or $499 with best of Both. If only 1 million subs (or about 5% of the subscriber base) buys the base plan of a lifetime sub, that is $400 million. Can we say December 09 debt payment?

I think this was a great move on behalf of the company. All I was saying is that I think the release of the StarPlayr app and the raise in internet pricing was not a coincidince.

Newman

IMHO I believe that John just used your name as an example in his post. I think you missed his point about how silly some of the posters can sound.

Thus proving that John is incomprehensible, his own worst enemy, and the worst spokesperson for this stock/company.

Hey good on nice mac for putting out an iphone app.

But SHAME ON Sirius for letting a 3rd party beat them to the punch. I've been saying Sirius should come out with one since the app store went up last year. I remember being told by some here even that that was a waste of time. Sirius could make some nice coin on the download fee from the app store alone. Not to mention all the potential new subs. It just boggles my mind that they dropped this ball.

Speaking of dropped balls.....ahem....if SIRIUS doesn't air a Super Bowl commercial I am seriously going to be flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct....because that is ANOTHER thing I've been screaming about....the TOTAL LACK of advertising. It's appalling. We've been merged going on a year now.....and NUTHIN. Ask the average person about it and they'd go HUH?

Ask em about Pandora or Slacker...and they'll be all like YEAH I KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

Doesn't that piss you off folks? OK....money is an issue. But come on. It's like management is doing EVERYTHING in their power NOT to be on the publics radar. We NEED eyeballs people. Advertising brings eyeballs. And there'll be MORE eyeballs watching the SuperBowl this Sunday than at ANY other time this year. Mel should have reached into his own deep pockets and funded the 30 second spot for Christ's sake.

I will OFFICIALLY lose faith in Sirius really trying if I don't see that dog loggo in some kind of tv ad this sunday. PERIOD.

I know the debt that's do in 3 weeks takes precedent....but this is IMPORTANT too folks.

GO CARDINALS! :-)

Newman, no that was not directed towards you. I think after reading your comments on this site, I know where you stand. That this is a small increase after 6 long years, that only really effects some and not even all the plans. Also to top it off you can for a small amount extend that time of 6 years even longer. Like when you, for an extra 100 got a life time sub, which was really a price reduction for you. I thought because you know how sarcastic I can be would know that was sarcasm I was using.

Clueless, First of all when did I ever say that I was some kind of spokesmen for the company/stock. I am on a blog in a forum passing the time by correcting things I find to be wrong. You though are a mindless follower, I have seen to many examples of you backing off when Tyler or Charles corrects a position of yours. They run this site, they dont own your life.


Charles, there is a difference between growing up and maturing. Now you must have heard the saying that old man is just set in his ways, or there is a big difference between a woman at 18 and the same one at 23 (I would say the same for us guys but it is more like 16 and 30). It is amazing that people are wondering why SIRIXM is mainly going after the mature crowd, well you found your own answer, that and finance. You see, while those transformers you played with when you were a kid were cool, they are no longer cool for someone that is older that is why most toys have the recommended age groups on the box of that toy. Charles the toy company has already figured out when you are going to lose interest in that toy. I know what is it, are they mind readers or is it that they have done their research. You are right though about the "never" part, that was my fault for using the word "never", I do try not to use those kinds of words.

Next, I would like to pick up on "trippingthespeculatingpos" comments. Charles while you may switch from cell company to cell company, I dont think you are going to just drop cell phones altogether and just use a land line. The same gos for cable /satellite tv and using rabbit ears again. I also have not said even during the merger process that Ipods were competition to satellite radio. I have always felt that at most they were like CDs being competition to terrestrial. You see Charles, until AT&T comes out with something like satellite radio there really is no computition to it. The fact is it takes parts of all the rest to compete with satellite. Besides terrestrial radio, there is nothing that even comes close to competing directly with satellite by itself. The closest competition to satellite is terrestrial. That is a simple choice, do you want to pay for it in time (7 hours) or dollars (13). Is you time worth more then 1.73 an hour. For me these choices are easy, do I cut my own lawn or pay for it, do I fly or drive. I can understand these things being confusing to many even in Washington they dont realize all the work that can be done 9or saved) on a private jet compared to driving. They forget these men are in charge of the Amarican auto industry for god sake, their time is very expensive, the lawers time alone would have made it worth the price of the plane ride.

Sirius will make money from NiceMac.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rbit_Earth.JPG

Here's how. SiriusXM's satellites only cover N.A. (US and CA). It looks like South America is covered too but I don't think Sirius sells subs and radios in S.A. With SIRI's debt problems, it will be difficult to put up additional Radiosat's in the sky for the remainder of the globe.

The internet is worldwide and so will be uSirius StarPlayr via the AppStore. When this app is approved, it will open a whole new market for Sirius XM. All SIRI has to do is come up with an easy way for international users to sign up. The revenue will come from Internet only subs from overseas.

That's how Sirius XM will make more money from NiceMac LLC.

gt :)

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Originally Posted by john

It is amazing that people are wondering why SIRIXM is mainly going after the mature crowd, well you found your own answer....You see, while those transformers you played with when you were a kid were cool, they are no longer cool for someone that is older that is why most toys have the recommended age groups on the box of that toy. Charles the toy company has already figured out when you are going to lose interest in that toy. ....

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That does put it in perspective. I have been thinking all along that when the ipod generation grows up they won't want to mess around with playlists.

Ipods are ways to make kids cool...collecting songs etc is like collecting transformers.

To connect this to the topic...what is the next step for the maturing iphone/ipod crowd...the sirius app.