Im just guessing, but it might have to do with the first generation iphone that was not 3G?Quote:
Originally Posted by SiriusBuzz
Im just guessing, but it might have to do with the first generation iphone that was not 3G?Quote:
Originally Posted by SiriusBuzz
The *FREE* internet feed wasn't free, it was included. I don't care what they call it on their website. This is just a price increase plain and simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by just sirius
And during a year when a lot of companies are NOT giving out raises, laying off people. A year when people are starting to look at what the cost/value of certain items are.
I have two radios, and both my wife and I listen to the internet stream at work. On March 11th this may very well change.
As for the satellite/cable discussion. For *me* when Directv raised their rates, I drop something to make my price near the same. Started with 4 rooms, and the PLUS package. Now I have two rooms and no additional packages. The NET is a loss for them as I am paying less than I was before, and am getting by just fine.
With Sirius, most don't have an option to "cut back on one thing to justify keeping / adding internet" it is what it is, and forcing a 128k feed on people that have been "getting it free" for years seems like bad timing.
I also find it amusing that this comes out right as the iPhone application is about to launch.
Thank Sirius for telling me how great the Stiletto 2 is with it WIFI connection. You can connect anywhere there is a WIFI connection WITH NO CHARGE.... Sure they'll say anything to sell a product. Now it won't be free unless I pay for it. I have aways been against satellite radio for myself. My wife pushed me on this. I ended up liking it a lot. But they shouldn't tell you one thing when you purchasing something and later finding out they are taking it away.:(
This goes for the last two post....You can say it... justify it...Do it.... what ever you like.. but you know it will be cutting off your nose to spite your face...I listen all the time on my lap top and I will get a life time sub...for $399
thats a hundred dollars off the regular price...and keep it for free....because as much as I could say... I can get by with out it while im on my computer or lap top but then I would be fooling myself also....PS if you went to your account page on Sirius when you signed up..you had to register for the free internet line....and it was $12.99 reguardless if you signed up or not ...so it was free!!
It couldn't possibly be the exact opposite. Requiring you to register to use an included product. Sirius wasn't giving any of us anything free.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sworntwofun
Oh and after getting my friendly email from Sirius today I did a little math. Just completely based on the basic costs of Sirius for one month. (minus any annual or whatever discounts for either)
Before
Radio 1: 12.95
Radio 2: 6.99
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19.94/mo
After
Radio 1: 12.95 + 2.99
Radio 2: 8.99 + 2.99
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27.92/mo
Or a 40% increase in monthly costs.
dmtalon
My question to you is...do like the product? If you do, renew you main sub and family sub now and lock in the $6.99 price for as long as you can afford it. If both you and your wife have to have the internet feed, then re-assess your budget and you will find away to keep them both. If that doesn't work, is there away that ya'll could switch off weekly/monthly? Finally, no one will hold it against you if you just cannot afford it. No one likes price increases. But sometimes they are necessary. If the company cannot meet it debt obligations, they could go BK and then no one knows whether they will survive. We all want the company to survive, but most important is for you and your wife take care of your family.
Hope this helps.
Rumor has it that owners of portables (ie. SL100, SL2) will still be able to receive Internet Radio free of charge.
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Originally Posted by just sirius
It's principle more than whether or not I can afford it (in my case). 40% is just a very large increase. Just because the dollar amount is fairly small doesn't make the insane % of increase mean less. Apply a 40% increase in any other service/utility you have.
I'm not trying to convince anyone to cancel or do anything they don't want to do. I'm just voicing my opinion here, and IMHO a 40% price hike leaves a pretty foul taste in my mouth.
I'm likely going to do one of two things. Cancel one of our radios and then get the $2.99/mo internet subscription, OR I'm going to get the lifetime subscription on the radio I was going to cancel. (At least that's where I stand right now). Both extreme and both exactly opposite... I just need to think about it.
dmtalon
All's good. I agree 40% is really steep! If you lock in your sub to the lifetime plan(300-400 bucks, tough decision) your increase is significantly less. Again, that is a decision you and your wife need to make. Hope you and your wife cont to enjoy many more years of listening pleasure.
I love how people say just lock in at the $400 lifetime rate like people have $400 laying around. This isnt about just Sirius XM... look around the net on finance sites, or forums, or twitter and you will see thousands of people talking about how they just canceled their cable, or their netflix, or their sirius subscription.
Do you know how bad this downturn is effecting people? I have seen it first hand and small businesses and contractors of any kind are screwed. On top of that there have been thousands of people have been totally laid of. Local police forces are forgoing their 2% yearly increase to stop layoffs from happening. You guys are crazy if you think people have an extra $2, people are in debt and have lost their entire retirement savings.
Plain and simple... this was a bad time raise the price. All it does is call attention to the fact that you are paying for something that you don't need. I personally have no problem with a company raising prices after 5 years but this could not have possibly been a worse time. You just can't argue that.
Just upgraded to the lifetime sub. The way I have it figured, I pay 12.95 now. I will pay $15.95 after the internet radio increase. I will have Sirius on my iPhone. StarPlayr is an app I cannot live without, since it has been the only way for me to get service in work. Beta 1 is great! Looking forward to beta 2 and the official app.
Anyway, paying 15.95 x 12mo = $191.40 + tax = $204.80/year
The $399 (minus the credit I had for this year) is like signing up for a two year sub!! After two years, it is money saved.
Clueless
I agree that the timing is bad, but the company did not choose this economic enviroment. If it means possible survival of the company..then I say raise the price and let the chips fall where they may. Also, company is giving options to keep price the same. I know..not everybody has xtra cash lying around. If the $2 is that big of a hardship, then they should really evaluate whether they can afford to cont to be a sub even at current prices. That's my opinion.
clueless, people maybe canceling but ether they are coming back or new ones are coming in faster then the old ones are leaving Netfix. You really should check out the quarterly reports of companies before you say something. You see what you and Charles call facts are not. Facts come in the form of the quarterly reports. Netflix just came out with theirs a few days ago and they added 718,000 subscriber quarter over quarter and their churn rate stayed the same at 4.2%. Those are facts not conjecture taken from what people say. Once again I was proven right (about listening to people on web sites and calling them facts).
By the way, and I could be wrong here (conjecture, theory). Did anyone ever think that if subscribers are leaving in droves as you guys think that it would make sense that SIRIXM would add gas to the fire by upping the subscription rate. I think, we maybe in for a surprise on Churn or adds, that maybe they wont be assss bad as most think they maybe.
Lifetimes are $399. I upgraded my sub yesterday
This is wrong. You could probably go this route, but you can also renew it up to 1 year and pay the difference. You do get credit for unused time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Choachy
Need some help please!
Our 6 month "free" subscription for our Expedition expires 2/28/2009. Although I am not extremely confident Sirius will survive OR that they may not eventually go into bankruptcy, I am still planning on gambling they will somehow make it and plan to purchase the $399 lifetime subscription.
I've got one question for someone who has recently purchased the lifetime suscription:
1- I spoke with a Sirius rep. on the 29th of Jan. and was informed the internet online subscrition was NOT part of the Lifetime sub and that the internet online subscrition only came free with the 1, 2 or 3 year plans. The online sub would cost an additional $2.99 per month if I elected to go with the lifetime sub.
2- I spoke with a different rep on the 30th of Jan. and was told the internet online subscrition WAS included in the lifetime sub.
Which is it? I don't know which to believe and they could not send me anything in writing!
here read it for yourself....
On March 11, 2009, we will upgrade the online listening experience to near CD-quality digital audio. Satellite radio subscriptions will no longer include internet radio at no charge.*
If you renew your subscription now, you will continue to get online listening for FREE for the length of your subscription.
This is your chance to keep listening online at no charge. After March 11th premium online listening will cost for $2.99** per month.
As long as you get the Everything or Family Friendly subs you get internet listening. The ONLY subs that do not include the FSIR are Mostly Music, News, Talk and Sports, and A La Carte. The $399.99 price is for the Everything sub so YES you will get the FSIR.Quote:
Originally Posted by tvl
You are exactly right dmtalon, 40% is a very large increase. That is why I refused to pay it and upgraded to the lifetime sub.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmtalon
You have a couple of options Choachy. You can buy a 1, 2, or 3 year subscription. They can either add it on top of the 9 months you have remaining or they can credit those 9 months to the cost of the new subscription. They give decent discounts to the monthly fee when you get multi-year subs, but I still think the lifetime is a better deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Choachy
If you figure 12.95 + 2.99 = 15.94.
Lifetime sub = $399.
399/15.94 = 25. If you plan on having Sirius for longer than 25 months, then it is definately better to go with the lifetime.
Think about it this way: If you ever decide you don't want it anymore, you can sell your radio WITH the lifetime sub so the buyer automatically has a lifetime sub. Not a bad value proposition.
I havent checked this thread since last week, but I appreciate the discussion. I dont wanna beat a dead horse with the cable/satellite discussion, so Im moving on. I appreciate everyone's opinion.
I cant speak for any past price increases when they hired Howard or Martha. I subscribed after they got Howard. However, youre talking about is programming; Im talking about signifigant hardware/infrastructure and technological improvements. Im not talking about when NBC gets a new sitcom, that Im OK with a price increase. Im talking about general improvements to my service. I.E. an increase in HD, better OnDemand, etc. (OK, so I will be on the cable horse a little more (and dont mistake this argument for being a huge Comcast fan...they have their issues as well)). Personalities come and go all the time. NO, I do not expect my rates to change because someone signed or didnt renew their contract. If that were the case, I should have gotten a refund when they lost the live deal with Bubba. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by john
Im still pissed that I dont have the Discovery Channel on Sirius. That was one of my favorite channels. ;)
And this is probably what I will do. I give Sirius some money now for another year (which will start in September for myself), in order to lock in the free internet radio for that time. And in September 2010 I'll make this decision again when it doesnt sting so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Newman