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Once again you get it wrong. The fight now is not to keep taxes from going up. The fight is over what to cut and whether or not
it would impact the middle class dissproportionately.
Obama's plan would reduce all tax rates. You dont seem to want to acknowledge facts but prefer to keep saying the same
falsehoods.
I see youve changed your position a little. in the past you acknowledged that it didnt make sense for some low income earners
to pay income taxes. Please tell me what the tax rate should be on a family of 4 that earns $20,000, on $25,000, on $30,000 etc.
Are you seriously telling me that extra tax would solve our major economic problems? If not then you are simply appealing to
emotions in a way thats
Your statistics are meant to decieve. Tell me why Warren Buffett was shocked that his secretary paid a higher rate of taxes?
"Its not a revenue problem. Its a spending problem" Has anyone heard that from the Republican Party and Tea Party?
LMFAO. Your almost a drone right down to saying the same phrases you've repeatedly said. Scary.
The Left fights so "profoundly" because they believe like Buffett, Gates, Bloomberg, etc. that they pay too little and have made out enormously well over the last years. Nothing complicated about it. Its just about a basic sense of fairness. Afterall NO one complained of how things were going under Clinton and Reagan when taxes were slightly higner on the upper income earners.
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The tax rate for a family of 4 making $20,000 is
Taxable Income Tax
$0 – $17,000 10% of taxable income
$17,000 – $69,000 $1,700 plus 15% of excess over $17,000
$69,000 – $139,350 $9,500 plus 25% of excess over $69,000
$139,350 – $212,300 $27,087.50 plus 28% of excess over $139,350
$212,300 – $379,150 $47,513.50 plus 33% of excess over $212,300
$379,150+ $102,574 plus 35% of excess over $379,150
It's already the law. Each week the US government helps itself to roughly 10% of this families earned income. Via credits, deductions.... that family will get it all back in April. But the government holds their money for a full year. I would think that they need it right away. Wouldn't you?
Why do your paragraphs suck so badly? It really makes it hard to read. See how mine are nice and neat with each paragraph having one subject??
It is a spending problem. Assign it to whomever you like. The facts speak for themselves. Bush 2 spent 3x Clinton, and now Obama is spending > 3x Bush 2. When will it end? It's not a spending problem?? Is the next guy going to keep the trend? How would he reverse it? Oh, that's right, tax the rich. The total value of the Forbes 400, the people you focus on, is only $1.37 T - less than 10% of the debt.
Buffett, Gates and Bloomberg should pay more. I shouldn't. I can't speak to your situation, but my guess is that you should too. Any one who has a tax accountant should be viewed suspiciously. Or better yet, how about a tax on tax accountants. Heck, you probably get to deduct his fees.
Well, the house passed the "Boehner Bill" with no tax increases. Let's see what happens.
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Honestly, have you ever met someone more obsessed with accountants? Lets take up a collection and get
S&L some help.:)
American people seem to agree as well that SL is an extremist. LOL
Public Wants a Debt Ceiling Compromise, Expects a Deal Before Deadline
GOP Widely Viewed as 'More Extreme in Its Positions'
Most Support Combination of Spending Cuts, Tax Increases
The public remains skeptical that lawmakers will make headway in reducing the budget deficit over the next several years: Just 39% say the country will have made significant progress in reducing the deficit five years from now. At the same time, a majority (60%) say that the best way to reduce the federal budget deficit involves both cutting major programs and increasing taxes. Just 19% say the best approach is to focus mostly on cutting major programs; 8% say the focus mostly should be on increasing taxes.
Clear majorities of Democrats (67%) and independents (63%) say the best way to reducing the deficit includes both major program cuts and tax increases. By contrast, Republicans are more divided: 46% favor an approach that includes both tax increases and program cuts, while 39% say the best approach mostly focuses on program cuts.
Within the Republican coalition there is a substantial division of opinion. A majority of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents who agree with the Tea Party movement (52%) say deficit reduction should come mostly through major program cuts; just 24% of those who do not agree or have no opinion of the Tea
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Did the House pass the Boehner bill yet? Im confused by what you said.
I have no doubt they will pass it eventually with enough arm twisting. The Dems in the Senate will vote it down and then
there will be a compromise between the Reid and Boehner plan.
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You should be feeling unhappy that the Tea Party held Boehner back from doing a grand plan with Obama. No?
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Once again you are wrong.
Liberals are only 20% of all individuals. That would put you on the extreme side of the bell curve. On the other side are Tea Partiers. So you are just as extreme, but opposite. And you are certainly as unyielding too.
The house passed a bill with no taxes (at least that's what I've heard so far) . That is good for all Americans - liberals and tea partiers alike. No extreme ideology, just spending within means, and not taking it off the backs of hard working Americans.. It appears to be a good common sense approach.
Americans voted these people into office for a reason. That's the majority. You sell it otherwise, but that's what one can expect from an extreme liberal.
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And you still haven't addressed if you get to deduct your tax accountants fees.
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The House passed nothing as far as i know. Where do you hear that?
No I dont deduct my tax accountant fees. Should I? What do you know about accountants and tax deductions?
I think you might need some help. You seem to have an obsession with accountants. lol.
Umm how do i say this. I am with the over 60% of Americans who believe we need a combination of revenues and spending cuts to properly reduce the deficit. You are with the Tea Partiers. You cant even acknowledge you
might be in the minority on this issue.
Are you telling me you opposed the larger deficit reduction plan that Boehner was close to agreeing to?
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What you are telling me is that we collectively should pay for the mistakes of politicians and terrible mismangement of the taxes we have provided. I'm not buying, and most Americans aren't buying if they really knew the story. It's stupid.
Take a walk down your street and ask your neighbors if they want to pay extra for government stupidity?? Tell me the results of that poll.
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Wow. You are starting to appear unhinged from reality. You wont acknowledge all the various polls that tell us that the overwhelming majority of Americans believe in both revenue raises and spending cuts. You are in tea partier fantasy land once again.
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The fantasy is all yours, but I do stand corrected on the house bill. I thought it was reported earlier that it had passed, but apparently it hasn't.
I was hoping for progress.
Go take the poll I suggest. You'll become unglued. No one wants to pay for government greed.
