SIRI Intraday Thread: Friday April 3rd / Weekend Edition

to know jack about investing or the metrics of this particular company and definitely not the intricasies of satelitte transmission but I do want to opine about this: is it wise to make an assumption that the best choice, if going to choose between Sirius or XM equipment, is to go with XM based on a number of posts in the previous days about what the SXM is doing with SATs going up over the summer, repeater networks being upgraded, some being shut down (I think I read that here) etc etc.

Sounds like to me to get the best of both companies progamming, get the XM products that pump out the programming as opposed to the Sirius product line.

Am I off on this presumption? Is it too narrow in perspective (short and long term)?

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Originally Posted by relmor2003

I had to. I broke down. Todays stock action pissed me off so much I donated to Motely Fool by clicking on their bearish article and wrote this to them.

"If thats your bearish take, Ill go with the bullish one. Wow, you never should have written that article. Shows you know nothing of what you talk about. Sounds more like a 2 year old complaining to his mother than an article about finance. You list the same tired and stale arguments against SATD that weve heard for years. Not only is internet radio not competition, its so irrelevant even mentioning it shows your ingnorance. Internet radio?!! LOL What a joke. Its a dead duck. Period. Never survive paying royalties. Period. Slacker? LOL No comment. Like comparing a nice stakehouse to a fast food restaurant that keeps getting shut down for violating health codes. Only competition for SATD is itself. Mel and the board vs. common sense and reality. Looks like common sense and reality are finally winning. And so will the company.

No word of debt in your article. No word of the R/S. Your whole article was basically saying you think long term Sirius will go broke due to subs disappearing like flies. Im still waiting..... and waiting....and waiting... Been saying this for years... Waiting.. O look they just added more revenue and subs while I typed this... O thats right because they are in 62% of all cars now. Soon to be 80%. Best business model for media in the world. Yes, the world. Better than sat tv(no competition.). Wait, they just added more subs while I typed that they just added more subs. O look, another Pandora listener just got frustrated that they play around 5 groups over and over, and just got a Sirius sub. Nice!!!! Hey author, ill bet you a hundred dollars you have a siriusxm sub. In fact, I know you do. Cause soon we all will. Just like we all now pay for TV. You want good tv, you pay for it. YOu want good radio, sorry, your going to have to pay for it."

I think I covered it. :)

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Outstanding.

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Originally Posted by john

cos1000, thanks even though I know you were just trying to stop what could have been a flame war. Unlike you, some here just dont know how really bad it could get with me, especially if I feel I am being personally attacked (and I am not talking about some of the very small ones from before inwhich it was just opinions of mine). No worries though I found joes post to be funny.

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Once again I hope you accept my apology, I will put more thought into any future posts as to try not to offend anyone here. I try not to think of myself as a troll or wish to be involved in a flame war. I don't think of this community as us and them. I like to think of us as WE.

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Originally Posted by john

cos1000, thanks even though I know you were just trying to stop what could have been a flame war. Unlike you, some here just dont know how really bad it could get with me, especially if I feel I am being personally attacked (and I am not talking about some of the very small ones from before inwhich it was just opinions of mine). No worries though I found joes post to be funny.

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I just think its funny how when some of these people go from a junior member to a senior member it goes to their head....They dont know how long some of us have been here...I say its time for the 3 strike rule to go in effect......3 strikes and your out.....This site is a tool to stay informed and to get others people views and collective information....and even if we disagree on a subject we should be able to remain civil but when it gets personal and unproductive it should stopped ASAP....Anyway keep up the good work guys...and the others who want to have pissing matches grow up!!!!:cool:

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Originally Posted by Sworntwofun

I just think its funny how when some of these people go from a junior member to a senior member it goes to their head....They dont know how long some of us have been here...I say its time for the 3 strike rule to go in effect......3 strikes and your out.....This site is a tool to stay informed and to get others people views and collective information....and even if we disagree on a subject we should be able to remain civil but when it gets personal and unproductive it should stopped ASAP....Anyway keep up the good work guys...and the others who want to have pissing matches grow up!!!!:cool:

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Sworn... the irony of your post hasn't escaped me, mr. Senior member who has been on this site since wayyyyyyyyy back in December '08 and now calling for a rule to ban members after "3 strikes???".... :D

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Originally Posted by otone

Sworn... the irony of your post hasn't escaped me, mr. Senior member who has been on this site since wayyyyyyyyy back in December '08 and now calling for a rule to ban members after "3 strikes???".... :D

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I agree there needs to be a mechanism in place to keep the insanity down. I value the posts here - and would hate for this to become another ya-zoo. I'm fully supportive of a 3-strike rule implementation - and think it has merit.

The past month - I've slowly watched while some (not all - so don't get excited) newbies get bolder and decide to regurgitate the slightest thought that comes into their head. Hell - even I've posted off topic - but there have been cases where we start diving off the deep end in here.

If not a 3-strike rule - we need to reiterate some rules for posting inthe forum. Specifically to keep it focused on SIRI - or factors affecting SIRI -

That said - there are humorous ways to do that and still be posting within the stipulations I noted.... it's when the flame wars start or we start getting so off topic it takes 3 pages to find a post on SIRI.

Recommendation for Newbies: All input is welcome here - within reason - just keep in mind that you can START ANOTHER THREAD outside the intraday for extraneous or off-topic conversations....

My 2 cents.

Sorry Rick, you haven't been here long enough to have an opinion. Go back to writing your SEC e-mails if you need a cause. (Just joking by the way :) )

However.. a 3-strike rule is just silly. The answer is simple, the Moderators should be doing their job. I haven't read anything from anyone that deserves a ban. If political talk in the daily thread is taboo (which it should be) just delete the post and leave a link to either the Posting rules or a link to the political discussion area. Easy! no one gets banned, get's told to stand in the corner, or have their mother saying I'm going to count to 3 and if you don't..... eventually people will get the hint. Bottom line, moderator should be doing his job.

As far as pissing contests go, eventually a Moderator needs to step in, but I don't have a problem with people trying to make a point. Sometimes two people need to "work" it out. Take airman and john... they have come to an understanding (whether or not they "like" each other is another thing). I think just about everyone on this board, given the right opportunity, has been able to come to an understanding regarding any disagreements. Again, maybe the moderator lets them know that after a point, all subsequent posts will be deleted, so take it private.

All good folks here with something to contribute. You can't put this many diverse people together with differing views on the world, right and wrong, etc and not expect to have some conflict. A moderator's job is to manage that conflict in the right way.

just my opinion. good luck to all SIRI investors. :)

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Originally Posted by otone

Sorry Rick, you haven't been here long enough to have an opinion. Go back to writing your SEC e-mails if you need a cause. (Just joking by the way :) )

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Glad you were joking. I really hate flame wars and it would have been a hard one to resist.

For anyone interested - I had some interest from some of the newbies for any info about referrals to TDA..... since it seems like a good many of us always migrate there anyway. I have created a new thread in the forum devoted to discussion of the referral plus good and bad experiences any of you have had with your own accounts at different places (for me it was the seventh circle of Well's Fargo hell....along with sharebuilder)

The intent is to help the junior/newer investors avoid having to invest for months only to find they are being ripped off. I would hope it would ENCOURAGE them to buy some more SIRI shares with the money they will save on each trade.

Here is the thread:

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http://siriusbuzz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1769

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~rick

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Originally Posted by otone

Sorry Rick, you haven't been here long enough to have an opinion. Go back to writing your SEC e-mails if you need a cause. (Just joking by the way :) )

However.. a 3-strike rule is just silly. The answer is simple, the Moderators should be doing their job. I haven't read anything from anyone that deserves a ban. If political talk in the daily thread is taboo (which it should be) just delete the post and leave a link to either the Posting rules or a link to the political discussion area. Easy! no one gets banned, get's told to stand in the corner, or have their mother saying I'm going to count to 3 and if you don't..... eventually people will get the hint. Bottom line, moderator should be doing his job.

As far as pissing contests go, eventually a Moderator needs to step in, but I don't have a problem with people trying to make a point. Sometimes two people need to "work" it out. Take airman and john... they have come to an understanding (whether or not they "like" each other is another thing). I think just about everyone on this board, given the right opportunity, has been able to come to an understanding regarding any disagreements. Again, maybe the moderator lets them know that after a point, all subsequent posts will be deleted, so take it private.

All good folks here with something to contribute. You can't put this many diverse people together with differing views on the world, right and wrong, etc and not expect to have some conflict. A moderator's job is to manage that conflict in the right way.

just my opinion. good luck to all SIRI investors. :)

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I've already raised my children. My rule has always been to let them fight as long as no one gets hurt. Tomorrow its forgotten.

Laidies and Gentlemen I just wanted to say thank you for the insight over the last few weeks. All this info has kept me very entertained while I wait this out.

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Originally Posted by Sworntwofun

I wasnt referring to you.....but if you want to start some shit I take one strike right now and tell YOU to kiss my ASS fool.................:cool:

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It's a public forum mate, and unfortunately, I made the dumb mistake of reading your pompous post. Apparently it's ok for you stick your nose in someone else's business, but not ok to be called on your bullshit? Dude.... Get over it.

Maybe your post wasn't so much ironic as it was just puffed up "senior member" bs who likes to hear himself talk (or read himself in this case). :rolleyes:

putz

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Originally Posted by otone

It's a public forum mate, and unfortunately, I made the dumb mistake of reading your pompous post. Apparently it's ok for you stick your nose in someone else's business, but not ok to be called on your bullshit? Dude.... Get over it.

Maybe your post wasn't so much ironic as it was just puffed up "senior member" bs who likes to hear himself talk (or read himself in this case). :rolleyes:

putz

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I got your dude hanging....Mate....

Hey guys,

Anyone think that uptick rule on April 8 will help SIRI stock going up??

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...&refer=finance

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Originally Posted by otone

Sorry Rick, you haven't been here long enough to have an opinion. Go back to writing your SEC e-mails if you need a cause. (Just joking by the way :) )

However.. a 3-strike rule is just silly. The answer is simple, the Moderators should be doing their job. I haven't read anything from anyone that deserves a ban. If political talk in the daily thread is taboo (which it should be) just delete the post and leave a link to either the Posting rules or a link to the political discussion area. Easy! no one gets banned, get's told to stand in the corner, or have their mother saying I'm going to count to 3 and if you don't..... eventually people will get the hint. Bottom line, moderator should be doing his job.

As far as pissing contests go, eventually a Moderator needs to step in, but I don't have a problem with people trying to make a point. Sometimes two people need to "work" it out. Take airman and john... they have come to an understanding (whether or not they "like" each other is another thing). I think just about everyone on this board, given the right opportunity, has been able to come to an understanding regarding any disagreements. Again, maybe the moderator lets them know that after a point, all subsequent posts will be deleted, so take it private.

All good folks here with something to contribute. You can't put this many diverse people together with differing views on the world, right and wrong, etc and not expect to have some conflict. A moderator's job is to manage that conflict in the right way.

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Damn moderators, I hope they get to work!

All kidding aside, I think I do a fairly good job managing these boards. I do try to be quite lienient (sp?) because Charles, Brandon, and I like to argue just as much as the next guy and it would by hypocritical of me to tell you guys to stop it or give you a "strike" while we do it in another forum or thread.

It is also the reason that we changed the intraday thread to a DAILY thread instead of the weekly format. The traffic increased significantly, but so did the arguments. With a daily format, the same thread does not continue with the same griping and arguing from day to day like it had in the past couple of weekly threads.

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Originally Posted by Brandon

I've already raised my children. My rule has always been to let them fight as long as no one gets hurt. Tomorrow its forgotten.

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Debate and arguments are healthy. When it starts to get out of hand, myself or Brandon or Charles will step in. The fact that each daily thread has over 10k views and over 100 replys, while not being degraded to the status of YaZOO or ZOOgle is quite a testament both to the community of people that we have here and to the quality of posts that we have here.

I will take this opportunity to pat myself on the back. (Oh, and Brandon and Charles too).

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Originally Posted by MyMDX08

Hey guys,

Anyone think that uptick rule on April 8 will help SIRI stock going up??

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...&refer=finance

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Not really. It has been shorted already. We're talking about making pennies. There are bigger fish to fry, and more fun and joy to be had elsewhere. If the shorts were really good sports, they'd help drive SIRI upward and do it all over again. That way some of longs, who hold the stock because we love the product can get out.

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Originally Posted by Sworntwofun

I just think its funny how when some of these people go from a junior member to a senior member it goes to their head....They dont know how long some of us have been here...I say its time for the 3 strike rule to go in effect......3 strikes and your out.....This site is a tool to stay informed and to get others people views and collective information....and even if we disagree on a subject we should be able to remain civil but when it gets personal and unproductive it should stopped ASAP....Anyway keep up the good work guys...and the others who want to have pissing matches grow up!!!!:cool:

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We all know that remaining Civil is not always possible.... I have been here since Mar 2008 and have had a few occasions where being Civil was simply not possible if I was to still be defined as being "Human".... I make mistakes also.... I'd say I would have strike two already and maybe three or four, but for the most part, I try to have reasonable, not always intelligent discussion. My attempt with Joeboo1 was to point out that "John", who has been here since April or May of 2008, and I know needs no defense from me, should be valued much more than a Crappy Twelve pack of beer. My other attempts, as John being the "Lightning Rod" that he is, drew others into berating me for defending him, was to suggest self deprecating humor rather than to make someone else the butt of your joke... This was an attempt to avoid "Piling On" and was not successful.... Instead of piling on with John, they piled on me.... I am not offended, but lost my ability to be civil, in my bad typing example to JohnnyIrish....

You can see how this discussion has you giving yourself "Strike One" while I typed my explanation... I believe everyone including those directly involved.... AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE... have a lot to offer this board and to allow an incident like this to ban anyone is as Ridiculous as thinking taking some other poster down with off handed remarks and "Humor" is.... So Otone you can see I agree and I do not expect the moderators to be that involved... unless they want to and the remarks are that egregious... JMHO

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Originally Posted by cos1000

We all know that remaining Civil is not always possible.... I have been here since Mar 2008 and have had a few occasions where being Civil was simply not possible if I was to still be defined as being "Human".... I make mistakes also.... I'd say I would have strike two already and maybe three or four, but for the most part, I try to have reasonable, not always intelligent discussion. My attempt with Joeboo1 was to point out that "John", who has been here since April or May of 2008, and I know needs no defense from me, should be valued much more than a Crappy Twelve pack of beer. My other attempts, as John being the "Lightning Rod" that he is, drew others into berating me for defending him, was to suggest self deprecating humor rather than to make someone else the butt of your joke... This was an attempt to avoid "Piling On" and was not successful.... Instead of piling on with John, they piled on me.... I am not offended, but lost my ability to be civil, in my bad typing example to JohnnyIrish....

You can see how this discussion has you giving yourself "Strike One" while I typed my explanation... I believe everyone including those directly involved.... AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE... have a lot to offer this board and to allow an incident like this to ban anyone is as Ridiculous as thinking taking some other poster down with off handed remarks and "Humor" is.... So Otone you can see I agree and I do not expect the moderators to be that involved... unless they want to and the remarks are that egregious... JMHO

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I have no problem with anyone posting here as long as it is civil and disagreements are backed up with reasonable replies of your View point
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the PIPE or Not LOL :mad:) or any other such childish remarks of which we all know what they are...
But i also aknowledge that the hard part about typed words is that they can be misconstrued by not hearing the tone with which said or the human face to face contact that explains your attempt at humor.
And your right we don't need the moderator,as brandon said,to keep us in line.we are all grown men and we will argue and yes sometimes be uncivil,but it's how we handle our thoughts after that matter...
As far as the crappy beer joke,anyone who like myself,read the post on here for a while before joining knows that John's post about what he thinks is wrong about your post comes off as borish and rude when first read.But then you think about what he said (after a so called flame war)he had some valid points.Now anyone who drinks beer like myself knows that when you go to a party and run out of your favorite beer,your first reaction to what is left is no way i'm drinking that POS beer,but before long your drinking it and saying not bad beer this POS....

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Originally Posted by Joeboo1

Once again I hope you accept my apology, I will put more thought into any future posts as to try not to offend anyone here. I try not to think of myself as a troll or wish to be involved in a flame war. I don't think of this community as us and them. I like to think of us as WE.

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Hey no apology needed. I personally think you can say whatever you want. Now others would like it taken to another thread and if they get really long then that would most likely be best but I think a little spice keeps this thread interesting. In the end the comment was funny and really after all the crap and spending so much time on this stock I think we need to be able to laugh and have a good debate about other things on the same thread every once in a while (as long as they are short enough).

Drop it already, damn. who cares...

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Originally Posted by imromo24

Drop it already, damn. who cares...

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Frick what else is there to talk about, there is only so much you can talk about on SIRI towards the end of a week end.


Now after reading the rest, I have to say I really dont care if you are Charles or Tyler if I feel they are wrong I will call them on it (and believe me they know so). The same gos for if I believe you to be correct on something and just join today, I say welcome you intelligent bastard where you been all this time.


Hey cos1000 I would have about 35+ strikes by now. I did like the old days when we could all jump on FrontMed, aka Stackpointer, aka hypocritical ass, aka ect., aka ect.


Hey Newman remember when you wanted all that with FrontMed on the main page taken to the forums, well you got your wish.