You've lied about Obama's words, you deny the trend of the earth's temperature, you're completely wrong in your statements about hybrids and electric cars never being technologically or economically viable, and you refuse to answer when pure hydrogen cars (which you extoll) will be 1% of auto sales. Sorry, but your credibility is shot John.
Nevertheless have a good day.
His credibility was shot a LONG time ago.
He has that unique ability to bend his opinions into facts. Everybody who reads this thread and so many others of his, knows that.
John would make a great politician if he had the balls to ever run.
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Originally Posted by Havakasha
John, this thread is not about President Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by john
This thread is about your racist and hateful statement that "At least 70% of South American immigrants are dumb twits or just lazy"
You started the thread. You are the racist. Now, quit trying to defend yourself by changing the story to Obama being racist. This is about you and your opinions. Your racist and hateful opinions about American Citizens that were born in South America.
You can try and use all your Rules For Radicals tricks by trying to switch the subject, but it doesn't work here. That works when Beck and Limbaugh use it on those unsuspecting folks that listen to them. But, it doesn't work here.
Now, get back to the subject about your racism and hatred of Americans that were born in South America.
Your nuts and anyone that thinks even remotely logically knows that if you use a qoute from someone then it is as good as you saying it yourself which is exactly what Obama did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Havakasha
ONCE AGAIN I ask you to put up the part where Obama says ANYTHING CLOSE to not agreeing with the qoute he used when discribing white folks greed and how we run a world in need.
Here I will give you an example even you can understand; If I said this; this is a good example of how I feel "The only good indian is a dead indian" then you could say that I am racist correct, or dont you get that you dumb twit. Trust me most everyone else does and that is why they come here to laugh at your stupid commentary on these kinds of things. That I have to explain it in these simple terms so you get it.
Then again, I guess by your standards, someone else could say no he was only qouting someone elses words. Once again, LMFAO.
As for the earths temperature it has been getting cooler. It has been shown to you over and over again even YOUR OWN experts have said it and I have shown you their very qoutes and you still dont seem top get it that sounds like it is your problem not mine.
As for credibility, just look at what you just tried to defend Obama on.
No S&L said "john your nuts". Stop using his words please. LOL.
No the earths temperature is getting warmer. It looks like this year (2010) might just be the warmest on record. Science and scientists are proving it and you will look the fool over the next years. mark my word.
You attempted to create the impression that those words were Obama's original words. Just like hannity did. Very deceitful of you.
Your completely wrong in your statements that hybrid and electric cars will never be technologically and economically viable. Laughable actually and i have the sense you are starting to be a little embarassed about your remarks.
And finally you continue to avoid providing an answer as to when pure hydrogen cars will be 1% of auto sales. We all understand why you dont because once you do you will look the fool. Got you caught in a wonderful trap and have been enjoying you squirm for months now.
P.S. I ask you again to put up 2 pages of Obama's book including the page before and after the Rev Wright remarks he was quoting. I am still patiently waiting since you tried the deceitful manuever you learned from Hannity that tried to imply they were Obama's original words. Shame, shame on you Johnny.
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Originally Posted by candleman
I have been far more honest then ether you or Havasucker that has been proven one just has to look at your post defending Obama also to see that.
So I will ask you the samething come on put up the part of his book that says he does not agree with the qoute he just used. So prove me wrong I tell you what if you do I will never post here again. So come on just go get it. Now if you cant then even you have to admit that if you cant find that part of Obamas book where he says anything even close to him not agreeing with that qoute "white folks greed runs a world in need" then he agrees with it otherwise why would he have used it in the first place. Yes I know seems like to much common sense and simple logic for you brain to follow but give it a try.
like I told Havasucker you would not think less of anyone that said "the only good jew is a dead jew" because that is JUST a QOUTE, RIGHT.
Hey is it getting through that thick skull yet.
Are you still trying to change the subject from your shameful remarks about South Americans? i thought so.
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Originally Posted by candleman
Hey why did you just call me racist and hateful I just used a qoute from someone else.
Second point you twit that your brain cant seem to comprehend to be a racist I would have to call 100% of them that. Yes so what is the difference between the 30% and the other 70% that are stupid or just lazy. Here I will give you a clue it is not their race because I used a percentage of the SAME RACE. Now try and rack your dumbassed brain around that conundrum and try to come back with a logical response.
Are you avoiding this or something? lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Havakasha
Did you just say "the only good jew is a dead jew" ? Are you a nazi or something. Go **** yourself. You pig. :)
Since you quoted someone i quess it must be your original thought and you automatically agree with it. Thats your logic buster.
I love johns logic. He says you have to believe that 100% of all South Americans are lazy and dumb to be racist. If you believe only 99% are you have no racist bones in your body. Wow. That is some real interesting logic.
We got to send you back to school.
I quess since Obama loved his mother (who was white) so despite the fact, according to Beck and you ,he hates all other whites, then based on your logic he cant be a racist.
i dont know how you did it john but with your twisted logic you just proved Obama isnt a racist. Well done. LMFAO.
Candleman can you belive the trap this guy just fell into?
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Originally Posted by Havakasha
Yes like the link I showed you inwhich it shows clearly That NASA was already caught fudging the data already. DO YOU NEED THE LINK AGAIN. I seem to recall them saying that 1998 was the hottest, what ever happen to that. Here prove me wrong go get a link from them inwhich they YES THEY NASA still says that 1998 is still the hottest on record. Goog luck with that one since they have already changed that to the third hottest.
Like I said they are if you use a qoute in the way he did then it is as good as him saying it himself. What are you really going to try and say it is different or that he does not believe in it in the same way.
Like I said then if anyone ever said "the only good indian is a dead indian" that would not make them a racist would it just the guy who said it first, right. Is that really what you think is believable? Is that the kind of logic you want people to believe you have.
No I do and I already proved it to you I had already put up the comparison of the extra cost and the fact STILL REMAINS in the time they have worked on them they have while increased the life span of the batteries they use they have also INCREASED THE COST BY AS MUCH AS IT WOULD COST TO JUST BUY TWO SETS OF THE OLD KINDS OF BATTERIES.
Here is another example you twit: If it used to cost 5,000 dollars for a battery that last 7 years and they come up with another one that last 14 years but cost 10,000 dollars. WHERE IS THE GAIN IN THAT???????????????? and it took them ten years TO COME UP WITH THAT!!!!!!!
I have told you time and time again I used the same answer that the auto industry has given to congress. That it will take at least 20 years for them to be able to come with that kind of tech. Now is the 20th time good enough for you or can that twitish brain come to reason with that?
I showed you the whole qoute from his book if there is something else that proves you correct then please feel free to put it up. I have proved what I have said about Obama it is up to you to prove it wrong not me, I could not find anything that could do that. So please if you can find ONE part that states Obama does not agree with that qoute then put it up. I am so confident you wont that I even promised you I would not post again, period. Here you want some money to put down I am willing to bet you 5,000 you dont find it. Hell you cant even get the original qoute anymore because even Obama knows how damming it is, he is scrubbing the internet of it.
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Originally Posted by Havakasha
Haa you are starting to get it aren't you.
But to be clear this is what I said:
"like I told Havasucker you would not think less of anyone that said "the only good jew is a dead jew" because that is JUST a QOUTE, RIGHT."
Notice this part of the qoute:
"would not think less of anyone that said"
It is to bad you cant seem to be able to do something that simple with Obamas qoute can you. does that get your brain thinking NOW.
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Originally Posted by Havakasha
No I love when I get you dumb twits to paint yourselves into corners and then watch to see how you try and get out of it without saying I was right. It is my pride and joy to get you dumb twits to do that.
You are embarassingly wrong on the auto industry but somehow your pride wont you let you admit it.
Hybrid and electric autos are already proving technologically and economically viable. Automobile companies are investing billions in this area and its obvious to anyone with half a brain that these cars are going to grow exponentially in the next 20 years. You can dance around all your want but the facts are clear.
You can say all you want that you dont believe the scientific facts about our warming temperatures but you are sounding like the people who used to doubt the earth was round. Come out of your cave john because im going to be making you look the fool over these next years.
You were deceitful in trying to claim Rev. Wrights words as Obama's Its clear now you cant back up your original statements.
Thanks for proving that Obama wasnt a racist with you your own convoluted defense of your comments about South Americans. That was absolutely classic.
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Originally Posted by Havakasha
P.S. John you is easy. LOL
I dont think you noticed the smiling face now did you? You dont even know when someone is playing with your mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by john
You were deceitful in trying to claim Rev. Wrights words as Obama's and nothing will change that fact john.
No there is a difference I call out exactly why I think 70% of them are dumb twits or lazy. Here I think you need a refresher on that so here it is:Quote:
Originally Posted by Havakasha
"First, we start with the fact that they are all coming here for a better life, we can all agree with that right, OK.
Second, that means ether:
1) That their life sucks so bad that they cant make a living working 16 hours a day or cant get a job.
OR
2) That their life sucks so bad because the benefits are to little for them to make it.
So that gets us into the why does their life suck???? I think we can all agree that every South American government they come from, has a very socailist leaning government.
So the basic reason is because the governments suck.
So ether they are coming here to work hard for a better life OR the benefits there suck.
That means the ones that come here for the first reason (want to work hard for a better life). Came here to escape the terrible living conditions in their country. So what makes 70% of them, dumb twits???? here is the reason 70% of them leave their own country because they cane make a living there under the socailist government and what do they do when they get here and can vote. YES that is right they vote for the very same people (liberial democrats) that want the same kind of government they just got through escaping from. Heres a clue you dumb twits, if you dont like the polocies of your government then you vote to change them. Now if you cant and you come to another country, THEN YOU DONT VOTE FOR THE SAME TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT SCREWED YOUR PREVIOUS COUNTRY UP WITH THE SAME DUMBASSED POLOCIES. Here get a clue, if you frick this country up TOO then you wont have another one to run to. Do you get it, you dumb twits.
Now on to the others.
That means second reason, (the benefits are not good enough) because they are just looking for a BETTER free ride, now that they have used up the wealth of their own country and just want a better free ride here. That puts them in the not dumb catagory but puts them in the lazy catagory.
I say ether way we are better off without at least 70% of them and should keep them out.
Listen these people should know better then most U.S. Americans why socialism does not work and must be dumb twits or just lazy to want to vote for the very same people that want the same polocies that fricked up their own country.
They are as stupid as the people that move out of one state because they are taxed to much and the economy sucks TO a state where taxes are lower and has a better economy AND THEN vote for the very same people in the new state that fricked up their old state they just left. Just look at Virgina as an example, Just look at FL. as an example."
Now if you notice it has nothing to do with there color of skin or that they speak spanish but how they voted after coming here from a socialist country that they just ran from. If you look closely I even told you dumb twits I lumb people from different states into that catagory that do it but from state to state.
So while I know this is difficult for your feeble brain to comprehend please try because everyone else does. It is how they voted that makes them dumb or lazy
You also missed the parts of his books where he states he distanced himself from being white and moved towards the black part of himself.
This is also the same man that in front of all the cameras tossed his little old grandma under the bus and called her a racist, remember that, come on I know you must have seen it somewhere, even MSNBC coverd it.
So lets see here according to Obama, his own grandma loved him even and OBAMA just called her a racist. So then I guess it is possible according to Obama.
DO YOU NEED A LINK TO HIM SAYING SHE WAS A RACIST. I AM SURE I CAN GET IT. I will most likely just have to google "Obama tosses grandma under a bus" Here I will as a matter of fact I will try that first and see if it works.
Here is that smiling face in case you didnt notice. See i got to yell at you and make fun at you at your own expense at the same time. I knew you wouldnt pick that up. Dolt!Quote:
Originally Posted by Havakasha
One more time JOHN for that dense brain. You cant lie by pretending that Rev. Wrights words were Obama's own. You overstretched and got caught.
Ho here it is, your going to love this one it worked.
"Barack Obama yesterday delivered a crucial speech to try to explain why he spent 20 years sitting in the church pews listening to racist rants from his radical black preacher. I believe Obama did a poor job of explaining his lack of judgement- but in the process he did something much worse. He violated a code of privacy and ethics. Worse, the person he violated was his own Grandmother. But hey, when you're running for President- anything goes.
What he actually did was throw his own white grandmother under the bus- in order to explain away his shortcomings. I'll bet Grandma is proud this morning. Her own grandson served her up for public humiliation and scorn as a racist by publicly disclosing private conversations he had with her years ago. He served Grandpa up as a scapegoat to explain away the hate and venom towards white America coming from his preacher. But I thought bleeding heart liberals believe €œtwo wrongs don't make a right?€"
http://www.american-election.com/200...der-the-bus-2/
Please note this part of that: "Her own grandson served her up for public humiliation and scorn as a racist by publicly disclosing private conversations he had with her years ago."
Heres another because this is just to good:
http://55secretstreet.typepad.com/an...rack-thro.html
So Havasucker what was it you were saying again about Obama loving his mother but not being a racist. Surely if he thinks it is possible for his grandma that same kind of mendality would think the same about himself.